K8T Neo2 - Problem with AGP frequency...

Hi there.
I am a proud(?) owner of the K8T Neo2 motherboard. This is the "pro" version, with the supposedly working AGP lock. But it is not working at ALL.
If I set the AGP frequency to 66, my computer wont boot. With or without overclock, it just wont boot. I have the latest BIOS, the 3.3 version, still - nothing.
I really want to overclock some, but an FSB of ~215 (preferably below if I want it to be stable in windows) is as far as I can go.
Please tell me if there is any way I can fix this. Please tell me that I've missed some important BIOS setting and it will all work out for the best.
My other hardware include a 360W chieftek PSU, a radeon 9800 pro and a winchester 3500+.

Yeah, the agp is not working and I've tried just about everything. I've flashed the bios with an update and all that crap. I know the agp bus isn't locked because the system does not boot at any htt above ~220 mhz and if it does boot it is very unstable and crashes. And, when I oc in windows, agp disables itself with high ocs. There was one time when the agp somehow stayed locked and I was able to run solid at 2.5 ghz. I have no idea how it stayed locked and it should be able to stay locked with the 66 MHZ AGP LOCK selected in the bios.
I haven't contacted msi yet because I've had the worst experience with tech support. Seems like they all just got out of kindergarten or something and were programmed to say "destructive reformat" for any question you gave them. "Hi, how do I manually install video drivers?" "INSERT YOUR LEGAL WINDOWS XP DISK AND RUN A DESTRUCTIVE REFORMAT." "Hi, I have conceived a worm thanks to windows awesome seccurity flaws." "DESTRUCTIVE REFORMAT." "My computer locked me out for windows activation and I can't seem to unlock it." "WINDOWS IS FLAWLESS, YOU MUST BE IN POSSESSION OF AN ILLEGAL COPY, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND NUMBER AND GO BUY A NEW COPY."

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MSI K8T Neo2 - Problem with AGP frequency...

Hi there.
I am a proud(?) owner of the K8T Neo2 motherboard. This is the "pro" version, with the supposedly working AGP lock. But it is not working at ALL.
If I set the AGP frequency to 66, my computer wont boot. With or without overclock, it just wont boot. I have the latest BIOS, the 3.3 version, still - nothing.
I really want to overclock some, but an FSB of ~215 (preferably below if I want it to be stable in windows) is as far as I can go.
Please tell me if there is any way I can fix this. Please tell me that I've missed some important BIOS setting and it will all work out for the best.
My other hardware include a 360W chieftek PSU, a radeon 9800 pro and a winchester 3500+.

Thanks for the reply, I'm glad to hear that it is working for someone atleast, this gives me hope.
I tried following your tips. Loading optimized defaults was easy enough, it is the other things im not so sure about.
You said to "then disable the Onboard components you don't need". My question, are these onboard components found in the bios under "Integrated Peripherals"?
I'm not exactly sure what I can enable and disable, because im not very experienced.
Besides my other hardware as you saw above, I have a "Maxtor 160GB SATA DiamondMax Plus9".
I tried to disable some "PATA" option in the BIOS, but it didnt find my harddrive after that. This is why I'm confused and not sure what to disable (I thought I could disable the PATA since I have SATA, im clueless).
Also, when I boot it says, "No drive attached to fasttrack controller". What this means, I have no idea.
Update: So far in the menu i've disabled the 1394 controller, because I dont use firewire.
I also disabled something that was set to "RAID". I could set it to SATA, but I disabled that aswell. After doing this I still cant set AGP frequency to 66 and boot.
Update2: Now I disabled the serial and parallel ports, but I still cant boot with my AGP frequency at 66.

K8t Neo2 problem with resume from standby after BIOS flash

Previously while using the 3.2 BIOS and a Winchester 3200+, Both Standby and hibernation worked perfectly almost without fail. Since I flashed the BIOS to 9.3 and installed an X2 4200+ I have had a problem with resume from standby. The machine starts up OK but the 2nd processor core (cpu1) is almost maxed out and stays that way. Task manager shows total cpu load as about 45-50% (all on cpu1) but shows no running process using any cpu load, just the usual System Idle process at about 99%. The only way to get it back down to normal again seems to be to reboot. By Contrast Hibernation works fine, with no increase in cpu load after resume. I have all the latest MS patch's installed (I think!) the AMD dual core driver and the MS and AMD dual core optimizers. Any ideas what is going on?

Noticed last night that S! standby seems to work OK. Also was experimenting with a fresh windows install on a spare hard drive (checking on another problem). The fresh windows install appeared to work with S4 hibernation, so it looks like that is the answer to that problem. However the problem with high cpu load on the second core after resume from S3 suspend to RAM standby was still present. This problem is so specific and so repeatable (it does it every time without fail), that I feel there must be some very well defined reason for it. Unfortunately I have no ideas what could be wrong. Have now tried Windows re-install, latest cpu drivers, AMD dual core optimizer, MS dual core optimizer, Cool'n'quite disabled/enabled, and various others and suspend to RAM still gives the same behaviour

MSI K8T Neo2 issue with SATA drives....

I have a K8T Neo2 motherboard, with a 3700+ San Diego core, running Windows XP Service Pack 2. I don't have the version with the Promise SATA Raid - using the VIA SATA RAID. I am using the latest BIOS (according to the Live Monitor).
The machine was set up (the OS installed) on an IDE 40 gig drive. All was fine, but I noticed that my machine lagged at times (mostly games, under heavy disk load) so I decided to get a couple of Seagate 250 gig drives (they have NCQ, which I know is not supported by this MB, but they were on sale, and I'd read that the drive should still work ok).
I attached the drives, and enabled SATA in the bios. The machine boots fine. I created a single 500 gig striped array using the two new drives. Windows XP sees the array fine, but that I have to initialize it.
Every time I initialize it I get an error that says, "An error has occured" and tells me to check the event log (nothing there), and to either restart the Disk Manager or reboot my computer. The OS actually locks up a few times when I'm doing this (the mouse-cursor freezes).
I've tried using the disks as two single disks, same error (and it reported that they were only 137 gig each, though apparently it's a registry issue, and I used a util to change that setting, but I haven't tested to see if it changed anything.).
I got the latest VIA SATA drives from the MSI site, and installed them (though honestly, WindowsXP saw the card and the drives just fine). One weird thing is that the VIA SATA RAID is listed under SCSI devices in the Device Manager - there is no SATA category in there.
I'm at a loss here. I've searched the web, and this forum, without luck.
Any advice would be appreciated.
*Edit* I just unplugged two IDE disk drives from the computer, and when I started it up again, it found a Promise SATA Raid controller. I thought that wasn't included with the basic version of the board?
David.

Ok - thanks - I read through the stickies and updated my bios tonight to 9.20 (the latest).
Had some dry-mouth moments when WindowsXP decided to "discover" every piece of hardware I had, right down to the mouse, and again when core-center rebooted my computer.
Also, there was some time where my memory (OCZ 2-3-3-6 DDR3200) was being set to CAS2.5, which was kind of weird, but it fixed itself.
Unfort, I am unable to increase my FSB/HTT speed past about 205 before my computer does a reboot.
I have an ATI video card (X800 Plat Ed), and I'd read that some other people had issues with ATI card and the AGP-lock, so I got the CG-ICS950405 clock-gen, and it does state that my AGP is running at 66 (and PCI 33).
Going to bump up my settings via clockgen as soon as I post this (want to post before it potentially crashes).
Should I roll back to the 9.10 bios? Not a lot of discussion on the 9.2, and I'm wondering if it causes some issues.
Thanks again for all the help and info. I used to have a firm grasp on all the components of a system, way back in the P3 days, but things have changed quite a bit...
**EDIT**
Seems to be a Core-Center issue. Used ClockGen to o/c to 2600, with temp nice and low. Will run like this for a bit. Does Core-Center work with a 9.X bios?
I think all my problems are solved - copied a wack of files to my SATA drives, and there were no issues. I won't trust Live Monitor again for drivers or bios - it's still stuck way back at 3.30.
I'll pass the info I've learned off whenever I can.
Comments and criticisms welcome.
David.
Quote from: Puppetman on 26-September-05, 23:23:42
I looked at the motherboard page - they recommend 3.30 unless you have having issues (which I kind of guess I am). Funny that Live Monitor won't pick up those BIOS changes - wonder what else I'm missing.
So 9.1 fixes the AGP/HTT overclocking issue?
The stickies are great - thanks.
David.

Error out problems with measuring frequency VI

I am having some error out problems with measure frequency VI. The instructions is change error out from indicator to control but does not work. Anyone can help? The VI is attached
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Measure Frequency VI error.vi ‏27 KB

This VI does not have an error out. Obviously, you replaced a subVI that did have an error out with this one, otherwise you would not have been able to create this wire.
Simply remove the wire or save the subVI with another name then modify it to have the error out that you are looking for.
Hope that this helps,
Bob
Bob Young - Test Engineer - Lapsed Certified LabVIEW Developer
DISTek Integration, Inc. - NI Alliance Member
mailto:[email protected]

New 3.46 k8t neo2 BIOS and agp lock

does the agp lock work now?
or with the 9betas. is it working?
on k8t neo2
thanks. i have 3.30 and it'S not working on my board :(

Quote from: Toaster56 on 24-June-05, 05:01:41
well i guess the lock is working. i might just have a bad cpu.
http://img68.echo.cx/img68/7518/agpfre8pe.jpg
'Bad' would be a subjective statement in this case. If you do have an early batch Winchester, it overclocks less than the later batches. But it still gives you a lot more than you paid for.
P.S.
Following your link, I noticed your Vcore is a bit low at 200 MHz. When overclocking, you should raise it some to get above 225 MHz and be stable. At 230, something like 1.49v should do the trick. Also, what kind of power supply do you use?

K8T Neo2 problems (merged)

Gents please could you tell me what bios i should be using,
system as follows:
ms6702e ( K8T NEO2-FIR )
AMD ATHLON 64x2 3800+ MANCHESTER. revision BH-E4
2 X MAXTOR 300S 300GB STA RAID ( MIRRORING )
im using bios 3.3 at the moment and have been told by msi customer support to update to the latest one, when using live bios update it says im already using the newest version????
i think my cpu is a dual core one and looking at the bios information in the sticky guide on the forum looks like i should be using 9.4 could someone please confirm this
many thanks

this is the memory i cant get to work, im thinking of sending it back and going for one that i know works
then if it still doesnt work as you say it does point to a controller or cpu problem, as i dont have a spare mobo or cpu to try this i thought would be my last attempt, afterwards would be a new pc build
details of the memory
PRODUCT INFORMATION :
WILL ONLY WORK WITH THE CHIPSETS BELOW:
VIA P4X266A,
VIA KT266/333 (except ASUS KT266/333)
VIA KT600 (except ASUS KT600)
VIA PT800
SIS 645
SIS 648
648FX
SIS 746FX
KM400
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K8T800
KT 880
KT 400 (except ASUS KT400)
KT 400A (except ASUS KT400A)
SIS 661FX
SIS 655
SIS 650GX
SIS 650
NFORCE 250GB
ULI CHIPSETS
NFORCE 4 SLI
VIA APPOLLO P4X400
VIA K8M800
VIA K8M890
VIA K8N800
VIA K8N890
VIA K8T800
VIA K8T890
VIA K8T900
VIA PT800
VIA PT880
VIA PT890
VIA P4M800
VIA P4M800 PRO
VIA P4M890
VIA P4M900
VIA PN800
SIS 648
SIS 649
SIS 650
SIS 651
SIS 656
SIS 661
SIS 748
SIS 750
SIS 755
SIS 756
DOES NOT WORK WORK ON INTEL CHIPSETS AND MAC CHIPSETS
2GB KIT (1GB X 2) DDR 400MHz, PC3200, 2.5V, Non-Parity, Non-ECC, 184-pin
DDR memory, or Double Data Rate memory, is an evolutionary new memory technology that doubles data throughput to the processor. As an evolution of today’s PC133 SDRAM, DDR leverages the existing production and environment to provide unrivaled PC performance at an affordable price.
Specifications:2GB KIT (1GB X 2) 400MHZ 184PIN DDR Memory, No-ECC. Higher performance over mainstream PC100 or PC133 memory. Up to 3.2 GB/sec of peak bandwidth using PC3200 DIMMs (with DDR400 memory chips). JEDEC Standard. 184 pin DIMM, non-ECC. DIMM Lead pitch: 1.27 mm. 2.5 Volts. SSTL-2 I/O Interface. SPD Support. Support for Memory Chip Stacking.
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Lifetime Warranty
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amd 3800+ dual core
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2 x 512mb vdata in the green slots
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450w psu antec trupower
oh and with bios 9.4 also

K8T Neo2 issues with 2004/9/24 Bios

Hi there.
I´ve upgraded my k8T Neo2 with the 2004/9/24 an am having now stability issues with my FX 53 due to inproper fan speed control.
I have no clue how the fan control works in this Mobo because my observations are really strange. The CPU is now always reaching 70 C and more under load and the fan control seems not to be able to get it keeped cooler. Tried several CPU coolers but it´s always the same.
If my case is closed, the fan control seems to work and is incrasing the RPMs of my coolers, but having the case opened the RPMs stay at the same level like on Idle.
However, in both situations the temperature is growing up to 70C and more which results in instabilities at this high temps.
So before you ask me. I´ve of course upgraded to the latest Core Center too, but it´s the same if it´s either loaded or not, so it´s the Bios if you ask me.
Also, had not these troubles with the previous Bios.
All I can say now is that the fan speed isn´t regulated by the CPU temperatutre but something else and it´s not calibrated to support hotter running FX CPUs, though the previous Bios obviously was.
Last but not least, Cool´n Quiet is also working now under Win2k, but the Legacy USB support isn´t completely fixed.
I can´t boot neither Win2k nor WInXP with it enabled.

The system was set up last week, so everything is up to date, also the AMD drivers.
However, the Bios date code is in the topic header (2004/9/24).
It was updated yesterday and since then the CPU isn´t cooled correctly, neither with the Boxed Cooler, nor a Thermaltake Silent Boost or a Zalman CNPS-7000B. No matter the case is closed or opened.
There is also no problem with the Cool´n Quiet driver or the Cool´n Quiet support anymore. There was just a problem under Win2k and the Bios the Mobo came with, but that´s fixed now with the newest Bios, exept the fan control that is working now incorrectly.
Don´t remember right now the date code of the previous Bios, but it was the first release and there the fan control worked correctly, so my Athlon 64 FX 53 didn´t heat up as much as now and got no stability problems, simply because it was always kept below the 70ties.
I don´t think the rest of my rig is of any importance because connecting the coolers to an other surce than the CPU FAN Header and so running them at full speed, doesn´t cause my CPU to become unstable as it doesn´t reach this high temperatures.
That´s the only problem I´m having now. Everything else is rock stable and up to date.
What´s about the Leagcy USB support not allowing me to boot the OS´s, I can live with that though it would be nice to get that fixed too.
So to be more specific. With the previous Bios the fan control kicked in earlier, way before the temperature reached 70C. Now it kicks in much later. Somwhere in the middle of the 70ties. To late for my FX 53.
So to speak with the previous Bios the fan control kicked in before the CPU reached the critical temperature and incrased the RPMs at least so far, that the CPU was cooled down to the 60ies. Now it´s just keeping the temperature at the reached level (73-74C ).
All I want is to get this fixed or even better to add an option into the Bios to select the temperature where the fan control kicks in and incrases the fan speed to keep the CPU temperature at the level you selected.

K8T Neo2 - Problem recording a signal

Hi,
I've plugged an external music source (CDplayer, MP3 player ...) to the mainboard blue jack. I can hear this sound with the PC speakers (which are plugged on the green jack) => it means that the sound from the external source is clearly entering to the computer.
When I try to record this signal the result is a loud sound and nothing else. In the software used for recording (I've tested several softwares, for example Pinnacle Studio9 or JetAudio, function Record), changing the volume of the source (blue jack) didn't not change the level of the signal .. always to the max.
If I try a microphone, same result impossible to record (but I can hear the Mic sound on PC Speakers).
I've tested VIA sound drivers (from MSI) and Realtek sound drivers (from MSI and latests realtek).
Any information is welcome :-)
Thanks
The computer is running WinXP Home up to date.The Motherboard K8T NEO2 6702E v1.
Sound recording was working few months ago

Quote from: BOSSKILLER on 24-May-07, 22:19:36
nop. have you tried to play with realtec ctrl panel settings?
not yet as I'm currently trying to see if I've the same recording problem with a Linux LiveCD (Knoppix).
Not easy to find a recording software which runs with livecd ... I'm not enough strong in linux to use command line for recording signals from a specific plug of the onboard soundcard.
I switch back to windows again and I see the ctrol panel.

MSI FX5600XT problems with agp 4x and other stuff

Well
I just bought myself a MSI FX5600XT-TD128
I had a Hercules (guillemot) GEFORCE2 PRO (clock higher than GTS and slower than Ultra).
I'm not sure if my previous videocard (the gf2pro) would run stable @ 4x or run @ 4x at all.. I know my motherboard is capable of agp 4x, the old videocard I am not sure it was..
WEll, I bought the msi, plugged in and no post.
so I take the card out, put it back in, posted... 5mins later, crash..
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So I put the old videocard in (gf2pro) and disable agp4x in the bios, plug the msi back in and running so far stable...
My motherboard is an IWILL KK266 (via kt133a).. very nice motherboard running on a not-so-compatible-with-it athlon xp 1600+ (1.4ghz)
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Also, can someone explain to me the diferences between FX5600, FX5600XT AND FX5600 ULTRA?
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The mobo problems with the cpu (processor) are limited to having to press 'reset' switch to boot (or else pc will power up but no boot).
This can also be from a weak PSU, which would be even further taxed by adding the power hungry FX card.
Might need a stronger PSU.

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HI i have a problem with my VGA card MSI Ge FOrce4 Ti4200 TD8X, the card is agp 8 but voltage in BIOS is 1,5V (like AGP 4). Can anybody help me????????,
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Device manager is reporting a problem with the PCI to AGP controller, error 12, not enough resources.
Have tried a number of forums for help (Microsoft, Packard Bell) and have been advised to update bios. I believe my current bios is V2.0, dated 08/30/1999, and cannot find a newer one available.
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I've checked the PB site and they have a number of bios listed for club range but none match what my m/c is telling me, which is
08/30/1999;440BX-W977-2A69KM4EC-00
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Problem with normalized frequency on fft

Greetings
I have a problem when working with vi fft Spectral measurements, when acquiring an analog signal , the frequency of this switch to a digital frequency affected by the sampling rate, and hence the frequency axis ( of a waveform graph) gives incorrect, how can I multiply the digital frequency by the sampling frequency to obtain the original analog frequency?
how can I save as a text file in 2 columns (frequency and magnitude in db)? I tried to write with 'WRITE measurement FILE' but shows a header file and the columns are time and value, there is another way to store this data?
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greetings and thanks for answering
attached the vi I'm using, the questions are 2
1. How can I multiply the frequency of the signal by the sample rate to get the right analog frequency for example (if the sample rate is 1000 for a frequency of 60 Hz , i got 0.06 Hz observed on the waveform graph)
2. How can I get a flat file without a statement at the top with 2 columns frequency and magnitude db
thanks
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Problems with AGP Textures

Ok I am gettin ginto the desperate mode now, I cannot seem to find tech support from anyone.
I just built a brand new system.
40 gig HD, AMD 2400 Proc, 512 ram, Geforce2 MX 400, MSI KT6V series MB.
Ok now heres the GD problem. I run this system just for online games. I keep getting Client crashes. I called Sony Tech Support and They told me that I need to Contact NVIDIA and have them help me to Enable my AGP Texture Accelerator. That would be awesome If I could find a tech Number for NVIDIA but they dont seem to offer any support. I have been having this problem for over a month now, and am at my wits end at this point, Any help or tech support Numbers you could offer would be great.

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Originally posted by cdm
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Ok not to be rude but those basic details you are talking about are not so basic to me, Im not really sure what t is you want to know...
ok the driver version for the video card is
5.6.6.4
As far as the PSu I have no idea where exactly to find that and my ram I would have to yank it our to find out
It was his second post
these drivers should have been fine but they are made for the FX series
Thank you CDM, I figured I just missed that. And yes, they should be fine, as I am using them on my old system with a GF2. 53.03 and 56.64 both added extra FPS to that old GF2 in every game my son plays on that system.

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