K8T Neo2 socket 939 and Sempron??

I just got a K8T Neo2 board in my hands, it's a socket 939 board... You knew that..
A sticker on the box says that it supports AMD Sempron CPU, my thought is HOW? I've only seen Semprons with Socket A and Socket 754, never a 939.
Any info at all on this?
Anders.

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Originally posted by Jocko
Probably something to do with seeking corpoate sales, to save upgrade costs to large organisations.
Hmm.. No matter how I try to figure out that thought, I can't see the solution? If I headed a large corp. and bought 200+ mobos to use with Sempron and I couldn't assemble them, I'd probably strangle the closest MSI representative.. The worst part is that I can't find ANYTHING about this, not inside the box, not on AMD's site and not on MSI's site. Only that damned label on the mobo box..
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welcome to the Folding Team, you can get a label with your details at top of Red Pockets stickies, by Bas.
Thanks! Which immideately makes my wonder what "Red Pockets stickies" are... Remember, I'm not a natively speaking English person...
Later,
Anders.

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Name   AMD Athlon 64 3200+
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Specification   AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+
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Extended Family / Model   F 1F
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L1 Instruction Cache   64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Cache   512 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
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L2 Location   On Chip
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L2 Bus Width   128 bits
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Motherboard model   MS-6702E, 1.0
BIOS vendor   American Megatrends Inc.
BIOS revision   Version 07.00T
BIOS release date   04/02/01
Chipset   VIA K8T800 Pro rev. 00
Southbridge   VIA VT8237 rev. 00
Sensor chip   Winbond W83627THF
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AGP Data Transfer Rate   8x
AGP Max Rate   8x
AGP Side Band Addressing   supported, enabled
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DRAM Frequency   200.0 MHz
FSB:DRAM   CPU/10
CAS# Latency   2.5 clocks
RAS# to CAS#   3 clocks
RAS# Precharge   3 clocks
Cycle Time (TRAS)   7 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (TRC)   11 clocks
DRAM Idle Timer   16 clocks
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Module 1   Kingston DDR-SDRAM PC3500 - 256 MBytes
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DirectX version   9.0c
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