K9A2 Platinum Cold Boot problem

Hi, recently I have encounter this problem on my K9A2 Platinum that didn't occur before, where after powered off for a few hours, when booting up, there is power to the system but the system won't boot (i.e. no POST or anything). The reset button on my chassis also won't work at that time. And after pressing the power button to shutdown, it won't power up again until I've turn off the mains and wait until the power LED on the mobo to turn off and turning on the mains again.
After that, my system would be able to boot successfully, but the bios clock will be slow by a few hours. E.g. current time 9am, bios time 5am. I've tried flashing the bios to the latest version and resetting the bios settings doesnt help at all.
Can anyone plz help me?
My current rig config is
K9A2 Platinum w/ phenom 9500
6gb kingston ddr2 1066mhz
PowerColor HD3870
Xonar Essence STX
Coolermaster RPP 750w
Thanks a lot in advance.

Quote from: Henry on 23-March-10, 07:29:17
Did your problem start after you added this mixed batch of RAM? When did you add RAM to what you had 2 years ago? AMD works best when only 2 sticks are used and you have messed that up by adding 2 more sticks of different RAM. Does it work OK if you remove two of the sticks?
Not really, I had the mixed batch of ram for almost 8 months without any problems. And the cold boot problem does not happen everytime. I've just tried booting up without any issues this time round. I would see if the problem occurs again and test it with a new cmos battery.

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