K9N Diamond / AMD Athlon 64x2 5200+ won't boot

Hi,
I've just bouaght a new system and spent today putting it together. After everything seemed to be in place i plugged it all in and turned it on only to find it refuses to do anything boot-like. Black screen with spinning fans but no beeps etc...
Specs -
MSI K9N Diamond M-Board
AMD Athlon 64X2 5200+ CPU
2x 1GB Corsair DDR2 PC2-6400 CAS4 Dominator RAM Modules
MSI NX8800GTS-T2D640E GPU
(New/Blank) Seagate 250GB IDE HDD
IDE DVD-RW Drive
PCI Firewire Card
PCI Wireless Card
I've checked around on other forums for similar issues with/without this board and tried a few obvious checks such as removing unnecessary cards, devices, RAM, HDD ad nothing produces any results or hints. The speaker is definately connected to the board and the power lights are lighting up.
Any suggestion appreciated, Thanks

Cheers, doesn't matter, took it to the local PC shop and after a bit of fiddling they noticed that there was a power point on the K9N m/board that needed connecting but which my power supply didn't have a connector for (a 4 pin, same type as the main m/board power connector). They cut a spare 8pin in half and bingo, works fine!

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AMD ATHLON 64x2 VERVY SLOW

Hey
I got at MSI K8N NEO 4(socket 939),whit yhe newest bioa and driveres,i just got a AMD ATHLON 64x2 4200+ cpu and i think it run slower than my old cpu 3500+ it's in the boot time its takes longer with the new cpu about 5sec slower than tge 3500+,what could be wrong and what do i have to do,mabye a bios setting,i use win xp pro sp3+all updates

Sorry , didn't se your PM as I turned off the popup option .
Anyway it's not sure you actually need the MS hotfix if you've done all the other steps .
MS say:
A supported hotfix is now available from Microsoft, but it is only intended to correct the problem that is described in this article. Only apply it to systems that are experiencing this specific problem. This hotfix may receive additional testing. Therefore, if you are not severely affected by this problem, we recommend that you wait for the next Windows XP service pack that contains this hotfix.
To resolve this problem immediately, contact Microsoft Product Support Services to obtain the hotfix. For a complete list of Microsoft Product Support Services telephone numbers and information about support costs, visit the following Microsoft Web site:
http://support.microsoft.com/contactus/?ws=support

Is my K9N Diamond defective?

I have had quite a few problems so this is gonna be a long one.
Hi everyone.
Recently (1½ weeks ago), i bought all the parts i needed for a new computer. Heres the list:
MSI K9N-Diamond
AMD Athlon64 X2 3800+ EE (Energy Efficient 65Watt) + Zalman CNPS9500-AM2 CPU cooler
Corsair XMS2 (2x 1024MB, DDR2-800, 5-5-5-12-T1)
Thermaltake 680Watt
- +3.3v = 28A
- +5v = 30A
- +121 = 14A
- +122 = 23A
- +123 = 15A
XFX GeForce 7900GT, 256MB PCI-E
2x WD Caviar Raid Edition 320GB SATAII, with NCQ
And a floppy drive
Problems started from day one. First time boot, i enter BIOS. Change various stuff (like disabling Seriel/Paralell ports, disabling IEEE1394, setting boot order, enabling RAID controller and enabling all devices). I then enter RAID controller setup (F10), put my 2 WD drives in a raid0 array for maximum performance.
Pop in my WinXP cd, boot, press F6, loading BOTH the required drivers from the floppy i made using MSI cd in my old computer. I see one big drive with roughly 600GB. I make one partition on 16GB for Windows. Choose quick NTFS format, and setup starts copying files.
Then the trouble started, after copying alot of files, i suddenly got a message that setup was unable to copy the file: ABC.XYZ
I just thought: Argh, my cd is probally dusty, Open cdrom, look at cd. No scratches, no dust, no fingerprints... I clean the Phantom dust off the CD at put it in again, but it still cant copy. I restart the computer, starting over from beginning, remove partition and make a new one.
But same results, the setup copies some files but the stops with an "unable to copy" error, only this time its another file.
I tried serveral times, everytim a new file at a new random location in the copy process.
As i have no spare Windows CD, i went to my old computer, downloaded a new WinCD, burned it and tried again... but same results.
I started looking around various forums and found that other ppl had problems with the raid controller, and disabling would fix their problems. I really want to run Raid0 so this is kinda a last resort for me, but i tried it anyways... Enter Raid setup and remove the strip, enter BIOS and disable RAID controller, reboot and retry installing windows.
To my surprise, Windows Setup could actually copy the files and install Windows with no problems whatsoever.
I looked on MSI website and found that a new BIOS was up with the following bugfix:
"Fixed system can not auto boot from Nvidia Stripe 465.77G when onchip raid is enable."
It sounded familar to my problem so I flashed the new BIOS, reset CMOS, booted and made the usual changes in BIOS, made a new strip array in Raid controller setup.
I proceed with installing Windows the same way as described above, but same "cannot copy file xyz.abc" error.
So i destroy the raid array, disable raid controller and install windows again on single disks.
Next problem.
After windows is installed, I install all the drivers from MSI CD and the Creative Sound Blaster CD. I have a Denon 5.1 Surround Reciever hooked up to Coaxial S/PDIF on my computer. In Creative speaker setup, i choose "5.1 Speakers" and click test... but i get no sound. I see the "Digital Output Only" option and enable it and test again... this time i get sound, but ONLY from front left and front right speakers. Furthermore, i NEED the analog output aswell so "Digital Output Only" option should not be enabled in my case. I checked Creative homepage and found this: "On all Audigy series cards, S/PDIF cannot be disabled". That leaves me to think that S/PDIF should work regardless of that "Digital Output Only" setting. Furthermore, when i activate that option, not only does it disable the analog output but also the analog input (Microphone in this case, which i need).
The weird thing is that analog output works fine with surround sound (tried with some 5.1 headphones).
Next problem
Now ive been running with singledisk setup (non raid) for a week. But i have an alarming amount of BSoD errors. Its not just one BSoD, but all kinds of different errors. It is noteable that most of these errors are disk or driver related. After I got alot of different, i started writing them down. Heres a few:
IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
0x0A (0x0000FFDF, 0x00000002, 0x00000001, 0xSomeAddress)
"Typically due to a bad driver, or faulty or incompatible hardware or software. Technically, this error condition means that a kernel-mode process or driver tried to access a memory location to which it did not have permission, or at a kernel Interrupt ReQuest Level (IRQL) that was too high. (A kernel-mode process can access only other processes that have an IRQL lower than, or equal to, its own)"
KERNEL_MODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED
0x8E (0xC0000005, rest of parameters is junk)
"A kernel mode program generated an exception which the error handler didn’t catch. These are nearly always hardware compatibility issues (which sometimes means a driver issue or a need for a BIOS upgrade)."
The following 2 errors happened alot while i was copying data from my old computer through network WHILE playing a game to kill time.
KERNEL_DATA_INPAGE_ERROR
0x7A (0xjunk, 0xC0000185, 0xjunk, 0xjunk)
This error gave me the filename Win32k.sys with the address being the same as parameter 3 in the error code.
"A page of kernel data was not found in the pagefile and could not be read into memory. This might be due to incompatible disk or controller drivers, firmware, or hardware."
KERNEL_STACK_INPAGE_ERROR
0x77 (0xC0000185, 0xC0000185, 0x00000000, 0x00Frandom)
"A page of kernel data requested from the pagefile could not be found or read into memory. This message also can indicate disk hardware failure, disk data corruption, or possible virus infection."
While downloading some lost data via BitTorrent and watching a movie (on the computer), I got this error a few times (30 or so minuttes apart):
DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
0xD1 (0x00000064, 0x00000002, 0x00000001, 0xjunk)
A filename was supplied: NVTcp.sys (A quick search revealed this as being nVidia Firewall, so i unistalled nVidia NAM)
"The system attempted to access pageable memory using a kernel process IRQL that was too high. The most typical cause is a bad device driver (one that uses improper addresses). It can also be caused by caused by faulty or mismatched RAM, or a damaged pagefile."
Also got a few 0xF4 errors.
Most of these errors suggest RAM failure, so i started testing with Memtest86+ and let it run over night. 10 passes, 0 errors.
Next problem
This one is a bit more serious to me. As you might have read above, i was downloading some lost data via BitTorrent. This is how i lost it.
I have an External Maxtor 300GB HDD with USB connection. I use this to store movies when i go to friends and such.
Yesterday i plugged it in for the first time using front panel USB, Windows popped up and told me new hardware installed and bla bla.
I browsed the HDD and i saw a "thumbs.db". I dont like those hidden windows files (and i have them disabled), so i fired up a search for Thumbs.db. When search was finished, i selected all and pressed delete. DING "Windows cannot delete Thumbs.db. File not found.". I browsed the file using explorer and tried deleting it, but same error.
Start->Run->CMD
g:\>chkdsk /f /r
CHKDSK cannot scan RAW-Filesystem.
The file system is NTFS btw. So i safely removed and replugged the device, this time windows did not recognice the device. I tried different USB port (still front panel) and the drive got installed but was unaccessible, until i reformated it.
Could this be connected to above bluescreen and potential hardware errors that the HDD got wiped when i plugged it in or is this just bad coincidence?
Please help!

Disable memory EPP mode and retest. ("SLI-Ready Memory" from BIOS, enabled by default)
your board support(feature only on nVidia nForce 590 SLI that's mean only for K9N Diamond) this newest feature provide enhance performance via Enhanced Performance Profiles stored in SPD Memory. if your system memory do not support this feature and option is "Auto" or "Enabled" issues are expected. Sli Ready Memory:
EPP: This is an open memory standard put forth by Corsair and nVIDIA which takes over where JEDEC's SPD leaves off. As the Enhanced Performance Profiles description implies, it adds performance profiles to the memory SPD in addition to the conservative compatibility settings already programmed in. EPP compliant memory is dubbed "SLI Ready" memory on nVidia platforms (great marketing on nVIDIA's part) and allows the system to dynamically tighten up memory timings and increase voltages for better performance with no fuss. Whether you're a novice or experienced computer user, the benefits of EPP are immediate. Corsair is the initial memory manufacturer out the door with this new technology but others are already following suit.
Read more with details:
http://www.behardware.com/news/8167/nvidia-annonce-sli-memory-ou-epp.html
http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/pr/PR_Enhanced_Performance_Profiles_EPP.pdf
http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_31187.html
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/345/3/

K9N2 Sli Platinum - won't boot? Can't figure out problem.

Hey guys. My computer practically crapped itself the other day, and there were so many symptoms I'm not quite sure
what to even search for.
I've had this computer for about a year now. no problems since the day i built it.
specs:
Msi K9n2 Sli Platinum mobo
AMD Athlon 64x2 3.2 Ghz
2x BFG Nvidia Geforce 9800 GTX+
2x Cosair xms2 2gb ddr2
1000 watt BFG EX Series
Sony DvD drive
1tb western digital drive
So i was playing SC2 and my computer froze. So i restarted and it hung during windows loading.
I turned it off waited a few seconds and started... still hung. Cycled it and tried a couple more times.
Still nothing. Naturally i assumed it was a virus so i repaired my windows installation. After it finished it hung on
Windows has finished repairing your computer will now restart. I waited about an hour and decided to just restart
myself. Next time it booted asked me if i wanted to boot from cd and then it just shutdown like i pulled the plug.
Then i thought well i ruined my windows install. I tried booting again it did the same thing. So i just said screw it
ill reformat. But this time there was no signal from my graphics card. When i turn the computer on it will normally
be loud and then get quiet after everything has booted. But now it just turns on and stays loud because i suspect
it's still booting. So i took everything apart. Tried connecting and unconnecting everything. moving ram etc...
Ive got it to boot twice but after that it crashes before windows loads like a plug pull and it wont boot again.
I cant tell whats wrong it could be everything but nothing makes sense. I've built about 7 or 8 computers.
gotten rid of several viruses and bad hardware but I've never seen anything like this.
I tried checking the LED codes for the board. Leds 11 and 10 and 9 and 8 alternate red and green which means HDD and floppy drive are trying to boot.
but it does that even when my harddrive is not connected and it still wont show video. Ive even rotated the graphics cards and tried a 7900gs. nothing.
Edit: now led 6 and 7 are red.
please help me out. Thanks.

Yeah the case i have is the antec 1200. Never had a problem with heat before.
Ive tried it with just the ram and the cpu and it still gives me the lights so i
guess it must be the mobo or processor. I don't have another motherboard to test everything else on
all my other pcs are 5 to 7 years old.
I was thinking about keeping all my old parts and buying these as replacements:
MSI NF980-G65 AM3 NVIDIA nForce 980a SLI HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 140W Quad-Core Processor
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL

Reset CMOS or won't boot up then reset CMOS to default to continue MS-7185

I'm hoping someone can offer some advice or just put my PC out of it's misery
I wrote everything down I could find incase it's useful about the specs
MSI K8N SLI
MS-7185 version 2.0
PCB Version 1.0
BIOS Version 6.00PG
BIOS Date 24/08/2006
W7185NMS V1.8 082406 13:33:03
Memory Info Single Channel, 64-bit
Frequency: 167Mhz TCL:3 TRCD:4 TRAS:7 TRP:4 (2T Timing)
PCIEN VGA Link width x16
IDE Primary Master ST380011A 8.01
IDE Secondary Master DVDRW 1008IB Ver 0057
08/24/2006-MS-7185-6A61FM4HC-00
AMD Athlon 64x2 Dual core processor 4200+
2.21Ghz
Nvidia Geforce 7600GT
2.00GB RAM
I'm not sure about the PSU just yet as it doesn't have anything wrote on it besides Hiper, it's blue with blue lights in it
I got the PC on eBay (regrets I've had a few etc etc)
I had to put RAM, Floppy, Hard Drive and DVD in it when I got it but it wouldn't boot up
but all the blue LED's in it lit up and the DVD did too so I pressed the CMOS reset button and it said
"CMOS Checksum error defaults loaded. Warning!!! The previous performance of overclocking is failed, and the system is restored to the defaults
Press F1 to continue or DEL to enter setup"
I pressed F1 so I could install XP on the hard drive but when it got to when windows reboots during install I had to reset the CMOS again
now it runs perfectly without crashing, BSoD's or any other problems besides this having to reset so it will boot
I ran the Live update thing and that says it worked, then after reading this forum I tried the flashing with USB Mem stick
but I can't change the boot order because I lose whatever I change to BIOS settings to when it exits and restarts
Can someone help me out please?
I'll try and find out what the PSU thing is and any other info that would be needed
Thanks in advance
Dx

I thought it said in the book that you could use different ram if they was kept to different channels
I tried it with just the 1gb stick in slot 1 and the problem still happened
I uploaded a pic of whats on the PSU http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj17/LowFatCustard/IMAGE_048.jpg
and this is what's wrote on it
hiper hpu-4b580-mk
hiper type r 580w
AC INPUT: 100-120Vac/200-240Vac 8/5a 60/50hz
DC OUTPUT: +3.3v +5v +12v1 12+v2 -12v +5vUSB
MAX OUTPUT CURRENT: 32a 36a 20a 18a 0.8a 2.5a
MAX COMBINED WATTAGE 280w 360w 9.6w 12.5w
560w 22.1w
PEAK LOAD 630w
It runs perfectly when it's on which is really annoying

K9N Neo-F and AMD Athlon X2 AM2 6000+ (125W)

Hi Everyone!
I want to upgrade my PC, now I have:
MSI K9N Neo-F motherboard
S/N: 601-7260-010K0609058577
MS-7260 ver. 1.0 K9N Neo nForce 550, AMD AM2
CPU: AMD Athlon X2 AM2 3800+
RAM: GoodRam 2x512MB (667) and 2x1GB (667)
GPU: Zotac GF 8800GT
Now I want to buy:
CPU: AMD Athlon X2 AM2 6000+ (125W)
RAM: GeIL 2x2GB (800) Black Dragon II
My question is: can I use this new CPU on old motherboard?
Have anyone similiar configuration?
In this topic: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=108896.0 someone has the same motherboard and CPU, but talking abolut PSU...
Waiting for help :-)

Quote from: Arcur on 04-June-08, 03:59:54
I was looking for a 125watt board too and its really hard to find one from MSI that have the things I want, I cant even find a board with Nvidia chipset, amd2+ and support a 125 watt processor (or not tested OK yet) or some boards without a cpu support list yet. So no AM2+ for you if you want a 125watt processor on it and a nvidia chipset. is there any reason why MSI cant fix 125watt support?
If you dont care about a future quadcores upgrade you can buy a old AM2 board, but dont forgot to look at the cpu support list, because the most AM2 boards doesnt support 125watt either. ???
"I was looking for a 125watt board too and its really hard to find one from MSI that have the things I want, I cant even find a board with Nvidia chipset, amd2+ and support a 125 watt processor (or not tested OK yet) or some boards without a cpu support list yet. So no AM2+ for you if you want a 125watt processor on it and a nvidia chipset. is there any reason why MSI cant fix 125watt support? "
That is not true, 125W support usually have high end mainboards.
"I cant even find a board with Nvidia chipset, amd2+ and support a 125 watt processor (or not tested OK yet) or some boards without a cpu support list yet. "
Here are they:
K9N2 SLI Platinum/K9N2 Zilent ==> http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=1443&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=171
K9N2 Diamond ==> http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=1438&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=171
AM2+ Nvidia chipset boards, not only support 125W, but support 140W CPU too.

K9N-Diamond (MSI-7226) RAID5 disks disconnect sporadic

Hello together, this is a call from germany ... in hope to find briefly the right help in the world.
I´d a Problem that the RAID 5 won´t work stable ...
Sporadic one of the 3 disks disconnect, when I copy large files ~4-8GB on the RAID, or when I try to generate one there.
It sounds like the former Problems with the Promise SX-6000 RAID Controller, but this failure will fixed after an BIOS update.
Try to solve the problem:
After the first 10 installtions I´d add a 4th disk, as single drive for boot and the system files.
I´m working here with Windows XP SP2 Professional 32 + the 64 Bit Edition!
Under both systems the same effect.
My system :
- K9N Diamond (MSI-7226) Bios v1.3
- VGA : 2x MSI NX7600GT-T2D256EZ.
- CPU : AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+
- RAM : 4x 1GB MDT (PC800)
- Windows XP Professional (32 and 64Bit)
- No overclocking
- 600W Powersupply
Board + BIOS ...... : A7226NMS v1.3 011607
AMD North bridge : Rev. F2
PMU ROM Version : 5A01
MediaShield (by press F10) : Jun 01 2006
Drives:
PM : SONY DVD RW AW-G170A (1.71)
PS : SONY DVD ROM DDU1615 (GYS1)
3rd Master : WDC WD3200YS-01PGB0 (21.00M21) ----> RAID5
4th Master : WDC WD3200YS-01PGB0 (21.00M21) ----> RAID5
5th Master : WDC WD3200YS-01PGB0 (21.00M21) ----> RAID5
7th Master : MAXTOR 6V160E0 (VA111630) ----------> Single Drive
RAID 5:
Striping Block 64k
Port 1.0 + 1.1 + 2.0 ... = Index 0 + 1 + 2
Note Media-Shield (Windows Version):
It doesn´t work correct, mostly (98%) you must use the BIOS one by pressing F10, to rebuilt the RAID5.
MSI-Support (germany):
They give me a ticket number and tell my to her from them near-term ...
That was on March the 23th 2007 ... question : What does "near-term" mean?
Questions:
- Does anyone have a working RAID5 running, with BIOS v1.3 (or v1.2)?
- Is the raid controler firmware included in the mainboard Bios?
- Why have my board the Bios version 1.3, but in the download section is only v1.2 listet?
With easily enervated greetings
Gerald

@ bosamar
Sorry for the late replay ... to less time.
Today I´ve downgrade the BIOS to the v1.2
There was one "mystic" Error ... the system didn´t boot, when all 4 RAM modules (Bank 1-4) installed.
After I´d disconnect the modules from bank 2 and 4 the system boot.
I do my settings in the BIOS and add the modules again ... and it works again.
(I´d testet the RAM modules with an tool ... they are error free).
... After that changing I´ve load the Bios default settings
May be there is a timing problem with the Chipset or RAM stettings ??
--->Advanced Chipset Features
--> Hyper Transport C51 Configuration
LDT(AM2) to C51(NB) FreqAuto ... enable
LDT(AM2) to C51(NB) Link .......... (16 / 16)
C51(NB) to MCP55(SB) Freq ........ 400 MHz
C51(NB) to MCP55(SB) Link ........ (16 / 16)
-->Hypter Transport MCP55 Configuration
MCP55(SB) to C51(NB) Freq ......... 400 MHz
--->Cell menu
Current DRAM Clock .......... 800MHz
Current CPU Clock ............ 2612MHz
Current FSB Multiplier ........ 13x
CPU Frequency ................. 200MHz
CPU dynamic overclock ...... disabled
Adjust extra CPU Voltage ... default
cool n quiet ..................... enable
+ CPU Configuration
adjust CPU Ratio ... auto
adjust CPU VID ..... auto
Adjust DDR2 Memory Frequency ... auto
Adjust DDR2 Voltage (V) ............ 1.90
+ Memory Configuration
MCT Timing Mode ............ auto
Bank Interleaving ............ auto
CMD-ADDR Timing Mode ... 2T
Software Memory Hole ..... enable
C51 PCI-Express Frequency ....... 100.0000
MCP55 PCI-Express Frequency ... 100
+ Advance Voltage Control
CPU to NB HT Voltage ...... 1.20
SB to PCIE VGA Voltage ... 1.50
NB to SB HT Voltage ........ 1.30
NB to PCIE VGA Voltage ... 1.23
Auto Disable PCI Clock ... disable
+ Spectrum Configuration
CPU Spread Spectrum ............. Center Spread
C51 PCIE Spread Spectrum ...... enable
CPU/LDT Spead Spectrum ........ center spread
MCP55 PCIE Spread Spectrum ... enable
SATA Spread Spectrum ........... enable
+ Nvidia LinkBoost Technology
NB<->SB LinkBoost Support ... auto
PCIE LinkBoost Support ......... auto
SLI-Ready Memory ............... auto
NVIDIA GPU Ex .................... enable
Greetings Gerry

K9N Diamond - multiple problems

First, here is my setup:
K9N Diamond
AMI bios v1.2
AMD 64x2 5200+
2 gig Corsair ValueSelect (no timing info available)
XFX Fatality 7600GT 256mb video
Okia Okia-450ATX ps +3.3v@28A +5v@50A +12v@18A (+3.3/+5v 230W)
Primary HD: Maxtor 80 gig IDE. Secondary: Maxtor 200 gig SATA
Pioneer 16x DVD burner
WinXP Home SP2 + updates
All mobo drivers are from the cd. The video card drive is the latest forceware driver.
Ok. I am having multiple problems. First, I have tried 3 pci dialup modems (2 Broadxent 56.6 and 1 generic SmartLink 56.6) and only the SmartLink shows up. The 2 Broadxent (Creative Modem Blaster) modems don't even appear to the system , yet they both work in other computers. The SmartLink modem appears and will connect sometimes, and then not reliably. I have tried all 3 in both pci slot. None work in the orange slot. Any ideas?
Second, I am getting random reboots. This happens less often if I disable the onboard audio, but it still happens. If I have the audio enabled and use a USB modem I have, then it will enevitably auto-reboot I have even gone so far as to remove the side of my case and point a small high velocity fan into the case to lower the temp of the internal components in case the CPU temp was an issue. The CPU temp is around 34 C this way. Still random reboots. I have had previous bad expreience with SB audigy SE addon cards, but this still happens with the audio disabled.
And last, but not least, I am experiencing protracted bootup times. I was previously running a ABIT AV8/ AMD 64 3000+ combo with a ATI X700 and 2 gig of Kingston valueram with the same ps, hd's and dvd drive and my bootup times have almost doubled with my new mobo cpu combo.
I am getting a new Thermaltake 600w ps and 2 Antec tornado case fans tomorrow, but I don't see how that can really help with these problems as I am not really drawing that much power yet and the CPU is running fairly cool with the big fan at the moment.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. It looks as I might possibly have a bad board on my hands. :(
Oh yeah, I also cannot get Dual Core Center to run at all. I DO have .NET framework 2.0 on my system and have had for a long time. Every time I try and start the program I get an error popup saying "The application failed to initialize properly (0x0000005). Click OK to terminate the application." . I downloaded the latest version from MSI. Version 2.0.2 I think.

Quote from: Exo on 25-January-07, 21:42:07
Try that new PSU first, 18A on the 12V rail is barely enough and that might be a peak rating...
Defiantly agree there, 18A on 12V rail is not enough and most likely the cause of the reboots. You would want at least 24A on the 12V. Also if you go to buy a new one, avoid those multi-rail PSU's as they are not as good as the single rails as the current on each rail is not overly high.

K9N Neo-F, just over a week old and now won't boot.

Having trouble with a new build using a MSI K9N Neo-F motherboard. I suspect my Motherboard is faulty :( and plan on sending it back to Newegg for replacement unless someone has something else for me to try. Here’s the original configuration:
MSI K9N Neo-F motherboard (MS-7260 Ver 1.0 w/ 1.3 BIOS)
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ (65W – 2.4 GHz Windsor ADO4600CUBOX)
Gskill F2-6400CL4D-2GBPK (DDR2-800 4-4-4-12 @ 1.9~2.0V)
Gigabyte GV-NX76T256D-RH (GeForce 7600 GT) video card
Rosewill AP-500X (3.3V 30A, 5V 45A, 12V 22A)
NEC ND-3520A CD/DVD Burner
Seagate ST3320620AS SATA2 hard drive
For the first few days, everything appeared to work ok (though I had to leave the SATA 150 compatibility jumper on the hard drive in order for the motherboard to recognize it ). After day 3, it started locking up randomly (no blue screen) and restarting automatically, both while under high load and virtually no load at all. Past day 5, it’s now to the point where it locks up even in the BIOS, and that’s only when I can get it to POST (otherwise, all I get is fan spinning and a blank screen, not even a beep).
The first thing I tried after day 5 was replacing the PSU with a Silverstone SST-ST56F 560 W PSU I have on hand for another build (this PSU is extremely well made and heavy by the way :smiley: ). I figured this 560W monster could easily power the setup above, however the setup remained as unstable as ever. I did notice in the BIOS while looking at the voltages before it locked up that the Vcore is jumping all over the place, from 1.240V to 1.372V! I’ve built a fair share of A64 setups and never seen anything like this before. It seems to point to a failure of a power regulator on the motherboard, just hope it didn’t damage my CPU as a result.
Next suspect was the memory, which I memtested overnight on another AM2 board and passed with no errors. However, I read on a few other forums that the nVidia 550MCP chipset on the board doesn’t like RAM with a Tras under 15, so I swapped the RAM for another set of Gskill I had on hand (F2-6400CL5D-1GBNQ, DDR2-800 5-5-5-15 @ 1.8~1.9V) and reset the CMOS. Unfortunately still no luck, it won’t POST half the time and when it does, it locks up less than a minute later while still in the BIOS.
My last shot was removing the 7600GT video card and replacing it with an old Matrox Milenium PCI one I had laying around. My theory was not only to eliminate the video card from the list of suspects, but also the high power draw on the board that PCIe video cards tend to have. However, it still fails to POST half the time. Does anyone have any suggestions of things for me to try before sending back? Thanks in advance.

Thanks for quick replies guys!
Bosskiller - Yes, I tested both memory kits on another AM2 motherboard (Asus M2N) for ~24 hours each and both passed with no errors. I tried setting the Vdim to 2.1 volts in the BIOS (while I was still able to get it to POST fully), but no luck. However, since it's gotten very unstable and I reset the CMOS, the Vdim is probably back at the default 1.8 volts. If I could just get it stable enough to make changes in the BIOS without it locking up, at least that would be an improvement.
BAS - As mentioned, I tried using a Silverstone 560W PSU I had on hand with no luck either, that's when I noticed the big fluctuations in Vcore. Speaking of which, are such fluctuation in the Vcore normal? I've read several contradictor forum post on the topic and don't know if this is "normal" behavior for the k9n neo-f.
Thanks again in advance.

K9N Diamond integrated sound card issue (XP64)

I´m having problems with the integrated sound card on my K9N Diamond MB,i cant seem to get the sound to work.
I couldnt use the drivers that came with the MB cause XP64 doesnt read the disc, so i tried the downloadable drivers from this site. To make sure it wasnt the speakers i´ve plugged in headphones in the line-out (green) slot and it still wont work.
And i cant install a separate card cause i use SLI GeForce 7900GTX and they take up pretty much all the space on the board. And i cant go with XP-pro either.
Someone please help
MSI Socket AM2-ATX Nforce 590SLI DDR2
AMD Athlon 64 FX-62 AM2 socket (Zalman CNPS9500 Ultra Quiet AM2 1350-2600RPM 18-27,5Dba)
GeForce 7900GTX 512mb xtreme (XFX) 675Mhz
Corsair Twin 2X 8500C5 DDR2 CL5 1066Mhz
Tagan TurboJet 900W Dual 80mm 6xSATA 4xPCI-E
Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 500GB SATA2
Microsoft XP Proffesional X64

Quote from: wollert on 21-September-06, 10:11:12
I did, said it found no compatible device for the drivers. Checked in the Mainboard manual for the exact brand of the card.
XP appears to identify the card in every way i´ve checked, and i´ve double checked the volume controls so that nothing is on mute just to be sure. There´s just no sound coming out.
download correct drivers for XP 64 (http://download.msi.com.tw/support/dvr_exe/mbd_dvr/Creative_Audigy_Drivers.zip)
ensure your onboard sound is enabled in BIOS.
install it. ensure its installed propery (in device manager--->multimedia device)
configure your speakers to correct configuration, ensure your speakers is connected property.
ensure in mixer settings "digital output only" is uncheked.
if you wana install drivers from creative: after download correct drivers pack. right click on it and select extract to xxxx folder. then update it manually.

AMD Athlon XP 2800 (Barton Core) will not post at FSB 166 MHz.

Per top of the board “stickys” I have read a great number of the post on this board and done my homework to provide as much technical info to help you help me. This should explain some of it’s lengthy nature.
Aside from Memory, HDD and Video card every thing else has been unplugged from board and power or stripped out of slots to isolate the problem.
Presently running BIOS: A6712 V. 1B
*As seen on face of MoBo: KT4V MS-6712 Ver:10A
*The Original Box bar code label: KT4V-L (601-6712-050)
K7, KT400. 5.1 chnl. S/W Audio, LAN, D-Bracket 2.
CPU: AMD Athlon AXDL 2800 DLV4D
Q334763K40034 AQYHA 0447APMW
Chip lable
Athlon XP (Barton) Low Power Processor (Model 10) 2083 MHz
OPGA Organic Pin Grid Array 1.50 Volt max. Temp. 85°C
512 KB L2 Cache 333 MHz System bus (166 MHz FSB) x 12.5
Memory: x3- PC 2700 512 mb DDR 333 Super Talent
And shows at post as running 333MHz. MemTested to 1,000% with first 1 stick, then all 3 sticks presently on bios A6712vms.1B0. at fsb 100MHz (aprox. 24hr.) I even installed and ran other AMD utillitys while MemTest was running to “stress” the system memory with zero errors. During this period I checked Windows Task Manager > Performance, CPU usage at 100%, PF usage 1.35gb. No Probs.
Video card: Removed: MSI AGP-8X Ti4200- VTD8X 128 MB DDR 533MHz
Replace with: PCI card (to rule out AGP card prob.) Gilmont, nVidia 64mb
(also tried Matrox AGP 32mb card with no different results then above cards)
Power Supply: L&C Model: LC-B350 ATX = 350 watt
      115/130v      B/4a      60/50 hz
      +3.3v/+5v   1+12v   -12/-5v    +5vsb
      28a   35a    16a    0.8a    0.3a   2a
   +3.3v combined load 200w
Cooler: Slim Volcano 10+, P/N A1671, rated for up to AMD Athlon CP 3400+ & fresh heat sink compound. Freshly re-seated.
All PCI slots empty as I attempt to run bare bones to eliminate problems. (except now running Vido card in 1 slot)
Floppy Drive: ribbon unplugged from board
HDD-0: Seagate 8 gb master, (HDD tested w/no errors)
O/S: Win. XP w/sp2
HDD-1: slave/ unplugged from ribbon and power
Sony CD-Rom: Unplugged from PCI slot and power
SATA/RAID-usb 2.0 card and other HDD’s, removed and not included till Sys. runs at full potential.
Exterior HDD and Burner beyond the scope here and not attached.
O/S Win. XP-sp2
BIOS I have tried: The original; Ver:10A, ran fine on Athlon XP 1600 (1400 MP) 3 years.
•   Then with MSI Live Update 3: Installed v. 1c which couldn’t run FSB 166MHz (MSI:” Fixes system reports incorrect message for AMD 3200+ CPU.
- Supports Sempron L2 512K 3000+ CPU.)
However, v. 1.c did not work and would not post at all with the newly installed Barton AMD-XP 2800. [frankly this attempt was months ago and I do not remember whether it would post at the slower 100 and 133 FSB speeds, and also to muddle my memory further I was upgrading an A7N8X-D with a Barton XP 3000 and having similar problems on the ASUS,,, which is now running fine at full potential. ; - p
•   Then I selected and flashed A6712 V 1.7 122602, boots and runs Win.XP-sp2 at FSB 100MHz & 133MHZ. (MSI:” Supports AMD Barton XP2800+ (FSB333) CPU
-Fixes system sometimes will have IDE CRC error -Fixes D-bracket2+USB keyboard, cannot use keyboard on DOS mode.)” which couldn’t run FSB 166MHz.
I checked with the Tech. at the local shop where I purchased the KT4V MoBo. He suggested I try a different BIOS but he didn’t specify which one. He is a personal friend and admits to some bad luck and dead boards due to flashing bios so reluctant to mess with it.
•   Now running: A6712vms.1B0 – MSI hid this BIOS V. found here:
•   http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_detail.php?UID=362&kind=1
•    On a different page than the 2 versions mentioned above. http://www.msicomputer.com/support/bios_result.asp
•    No wonder people are frustrated and confused about different MoBo versions there ID #’s and the BIOS versions them selves as seen on this news board. MSI’s fault, no fault of anyone here trying to help.
A6712vms.1B0
Runs fine at FSB 100 (shows as XP 1250+) and FSB 133 (shows as XP 2200+) Booting to Win. XP-sp2 on CMOS, default setup other than minor tweaks to accommodate MSI Ti 4200 AGP 8X 125mb graphics card or Gilmond PCI card. But which couldn’t run FSB 166MHz .
No post at FSB 166 mhz (once, it did flash a post screen stating AMD Athlon XP 2800 for about 2 sec. before going blank) Manual power down. Just now I rebooted with FSB 166, and again saw the AMD Athlon XP 2800 at top of the post screen as I hit pause break,,,, then the machine power crashed to Off. Once it even loaded Win.XP-sp2 but crashed to power off with in 2 min.
I must have booted this beast a dozen times or more after Clear CMOS jumper each time it went to blank screen with mach. still running. Start over; set Default settings and work up with FSB 100, 133, each time to read what POST says and see if it will boot to O/S.
Btw: I have looked for clear evidence through the not so specific descriptions MSI uses to separate these board model #s and may be part of my current problem with correct board ID = correct BIOS ID.
Found here:
[VIA] unofficial FAQ for KT4 series motherboards
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=6090.0
Eg: - KT4 Ultra (MS-6590), 6-channel hardware audio codec
• KT4 Ultra (Pure Version)
• KT4 Ultra-B (Bluetooth ready)
• KT4 Ultra-BSR (Bluetooth ready + Serial ATA RAID)
• KT4 Ultra-FISR (Bluetooth ready, Serial ATA RAID, Gigabit LAN, IEEE 1394)
- KT4V (MS-6712), 6-channel software audio codec
• KT4V-L, with onboard 10/100 LAN
- KT4M (MS-6596) micro-ATX board
• KT4M-L, with onboard 10/100 LAN
- KT4A Ultra, (MS-6590) NEW!! based on KT400A chipset
• KT4A Ultra (Standard Version)
• KT4A Ultra-SR (Serial ATA RAID)
• KT4A Ultra-FISR (Serial ATA RAID, Gigabit LAN, IEEE 1394)
And a very similar version of this on Official MSI site. Both seem to try and make a difference between modles with on board Lan, and Blue Tooth ready.
Take a look at my original box sticker:
*As seen on face of MoBo: KT4V MS-6712 Ver:10A
*The Original Box bar code label: KT4V-L (601-6712-050)
K7, KT400. 5.1 chnl. S/W Audio, LAN, D-Bracket 2.
Yup, it says all this on the sticker and the in the manual and verified on the MoBo. So I can only guess at all parts of the puzzle as they gave them to me which lead me to the afore mention BIOS versions I ran, or am running. The sticker points to nearly half of the boards above except for the MS-6712 and the Ver:10a which is what I based my BIOS choices on. If someone knows differently and can lead me to official Nfo with a better answer I’m all ears.
Just saw this: Latest Official BIOS : KT4 MS-6590 (1.4), KT4V MS-6712 (1.8 ) , KT4M MS-6596 (1.1)>>Here: [VIA] unofficial FAQ for KT4 series motherboards
« on: 24 October 02, 05:14:04 » But these links and all but one link in this ‘sticky’ are broken .
So if (1.8) is the Latest Official BIOS for KT4V MS-6712 then what is this at the Official MSI SITE ?
KT4V
BIOS Type
AMI® BIOS     File Sizes
485KB
Version
1.C     Update date
Update Description   -Support Sempron L2 512K 3000+ CPU.
BIOS Type
AMI® BIOS     File Size
Version
1.B     Update date
2004-8-9
Update Description   Support Sempron 2200+/2300+/2400+/2500+/2600+/2800+ CPU.
BIOS Type
AMI® BIOS     File Sizes
485Kb Version
1.A     Update date
2004-5-13
Update Description   - System is unstable to run 3DMark03 with ATI 9600 PRO
- Add "PS/2 Keyboard Detection" Function.
- Support AMD 2400+ CPU.
BIOS Type
AMI® BIOS     File Sizes
514KB
Version
1.9     Update date
2003-7-29
Update Description   -Fixed Adaptec 2100S SCSI card cannot be used
-Modify CPU temperature detection
-Support boot from Onboard LAN
BIOS Type
AMI® BIOS     File Sizes
514KB
Version
1.8     Update date
2003-2-12
Update Description   -Support AMD Barton XP3000+ (FSB333) CPU
-Add "CPU Halt Command Detection" item in the BIOS Setup
Please also keep in mind I’m not trying to scuff anyone’s shoes…I just want to get what’s right for my board so that it and the CPU can live up to their full, "as advertised" potential and run with the other 3 big dogs under my desk.
This seems descriptive enough and rather lengthy. Just doing my homework and reporting my findings so I won’t include actual CMOS settings unless requested. I have notes on all settings I currently use to boot with this problem.
Other Dogs:
ASUS A7N8X-D running Athlon XP 3000 barton core 10 (runs fsb 400..whoknew?), Mem:2.5gb Super Talent
ASUS A7M266-D running Athlon XP 2800 (mp), Mem: 3gb Super Talent
Athlon XP 2800 (mp)
I don’t want to boar you with the details.
Yes, and the above have been upgraded w/new chips GFX cards and BIOS,,, NP.
Cut to sound track: Down on the BIOS again,,, wasn’t that Creedance Clear Water Revival?
Any suggestions or insights are much appreciated.

Welcome, and thank you for a thorough input! Hope I don't miss something you already said!
Quick version: Try setting processor voltage to 1,5 volt.
Long version:
Posting at wrong FSB can be put down to two things:
1 The processor isn't what you thought it is, but I think you eliminated that.
2 The system cannot run the processor at the correct speed. Mainly this has to with overheating, and/or that memory and processor cannot cooperate. This must be it, as you noticed the processor is correctly recognised.
You have little connected right? Then the best thing would be to pull power cable out. Take the motherboard and redo the seating of the processor, this is much better done with motherboard taken out.
At the same time, I suggest you clear CMOS. Should always be done when changing processor, and I've noticed on the Internet there are a few 1,5V XP2800 around.
http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:Q4eIa6OhudcJ:forums.amd.com/lofiversion/index.php/t47487.html+AXDL2800DLV4D+problem&hl=sv&gl=se&ct=clnk&cd=1

Bug USB on MSI K9N SLI Platinium & Athlon X2 3800+

Hello!
first,i'm french, so excuse my bad english(i try to do my best!)
so, the problem is that i don't have any USB working on my K9N SLI Platinium with my Athlon X2 3800+!(anywhere,all other devices works => lan, sound, storage..)
the "controlleur de bus USB" (sorry, it's french!) doesn't appear in the "Administrator of ring roads(peripherals) " (thanks reverso^^)!!!!
i've read somewhere that K8N have had a similar problem,(now there is a patch) is this the same problem???
i've mounted exactly the same configuration (except the Processor which is an AMD Athlon 3200+ (simple core))to a friend 2weeks ago,and all works!!!
my configuration :
AMD Athlon X2 3800+ (socket AM2)
MSI K9N SLI Platinium
Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400 - Twinx 2 Go (Kit 2x 1 Go) DDR2-SDRAM PC6400
Maxtor 250 Go 7200 RPM Serial ATA II 16 Mo *2
Leadtek 7900gt
thanks for your help to a little french guy(not a noob french^^)

i try this quick
thanks!
edit : it works thanks a lot!

MSI K9N DIAMOND boot problems

Hi.
I have given the main PC sig below to my son. And I now have / building
MSI K9N DIAMOND AM2 nvidia nForce 590 SLI 8channel audio DDR2 ATX
Corsair 1GB DDR2-6400 128Mx64 non-ECC 240 DIMM unbuffered 5-5-5-12
AMD 2x 5600 cpu
I have kept the PSU, wifi card.
(will update when up and running.)
When I put his harddrive (SATA) into his new PC it saw it straight away and booted into xp,without having to reinstall . Great.
I put my drive into the new AM2 board and I get three beeps (I read that's the USBs)
Then it either just hangs on a black screen or if i enable raid it tries then the BSOD code 0x0000007E which i believe is just a standard error message.
The D-bracket has 4 green lights...
does anyone know why I cant just boot up my drive like i could with my sons, is it because i'm switching to AM2 from 939?
When I enter the raid setup (F10) it can see the drive but next to where it says bootable drive which is normally a yes or a no it has N/A and I cannot change it.
I belive it is a raid/ driver problem I'm thinking its the AM2 upgrade.
I did not get any floppy raid drivers with my mo/bo.
If I reinstalled Xp would I need to install raid drivers during setup? (F6)
I have clears cmos
Many thanks for any help.

hello
I plugged my sons drive into my K9N Diamond and it is saying the same thing in the raid setup (F10) .....When you have the option to set as the bootable drive
Quote "set as boot drive N/A"
It can see the drive OK, I can delete array and rebuild it
Is there something in the bios that I need to tick or untick/ enable for it to boot from the drive?
any help would be great.
thanks

MOVED: K9N Diamond Overclocking

This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=118277.0

Quote from: DaveR on 11-March-07, 03:56:06
Clear cmos.
Enter bios and load optimised defaults.
Exit.
Re-enter bios and change user settings to your liking; ensure usb stuff is enabled.
Save and exit.
Shutdown and change keyboards.
Report back.
I tried what you mentioned above several times and sometimes boot up would work without the PS2 keyboard, sometimes it would not. Clearing the CMOS never worked on this board. I pressed the clear CMOS button (with power cable disconnected) and it did nothing. I also upgraded to the 1.2 bios and that seemed to reduce the frequency of the "overclocking has failed" bootup failures, but it was still present. Also, with the 1.2 bios, I seemed to have more bootup hangs (raid, etc.) once I did get through the initial posting process.
Power Supply Specs:
Antec Truepower 2.0 (480 Watt) - Haven't had an issue with thie PSU in my previous SLI setup.
+5: 38A
+12(1): 18A
+12(2): 18A
+3.3A: 30A
-12: 1.0A
+5: 2.0A
But at this point, it is a lost cause because the board is now toast (where is the PB and J!!!!). I left the PS2 keyboard connected, installed windows, installed some testing software, and did some performance checking, heard a "sizzling" sound from around the capacitors between the cpu socket and the rear board connetors, a quick burnt electrical smell, and the system powered off. Now the board won't power on. I checked the CPU, memory and cards and thankfully they are ok. So it appears the board is toast. I have already requested an RMA.
The first board I got was DOA, and now this board had issues from the first time I powered it on. It just seems like the K9N Diamond boards have some serious quality issues. I read the NewEgg reviews for this board and there are quite a few reviewers having DOA/posting type issues.
-S

AMD 3000 on K7N2G-ILSR won't boot

I just upgraded my CPU and RAM from an AMD 1600+ to a AMD 3000+ and from (2) 256MB Crucial DDR to (2) 512MB Kingston 333mhz DDR. I also installed a new fan that is recommended from AMD's website for the Athlon XP 3000+. The Thermaltake A1671 Volcano 10. After I installed the new RAM, CPU and FAN, the computer won't boot. The initial beep didn't even sound. I have the D-Bracket hooked up and it hangs at: "System Power ON - The D-LED will hang here if the processor is damaged or not installed properly" The chip is OEM from a well known computer website Monarch Computer I also cleared the CMOS. Right now I have the new RAM (Kingston) running fine with my old CPU and the new fan is on the old CPU. Either the chip is dead or I am doing something wrong. Any help would be most appreciated.
thanks in advance,
jon

Hi,
I agree with previous posters as to your possible power issues. However, did you try setting your FSB jumper to SAFE when clearing CMOS - if not do so!
It's not included on Assaf's CMOS clearing guide on the forum but it's a good idea to do so! It is mentioned in a later post in that thread tho' - see here:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?postid=274732&sid=#274732
Read Assaf's guide then "Santa Claw's" too!
Axel

K9N Diamond / AMD Athlon 64x2 5200+ won't boot

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