K9N Platinum Sli trouble

so i have assembled my new system:
Athlon 64 x2 AM2 4200+
Zalman CNPS9500
K9N Platinum Sli
OCZ DDR2 PC2-5400 667MHz EL Gold Edition 2GB Dual Channel Kit
XFX Geforce 7600GT 256mb XXX edition (another one will be added today for SLI)
a SATA drive and a DVD burner (these arent important for the issue)
temps = idle 30-34 c, load - no idea havent checked that yet
Enermax Liberty 400w PSU
ever since ive assembled the system i ran into some strange thing - during the changing of setting in the BIOS it froze a few times.
Neverthless i was able to run the system, install windows, start to install other software (yesterday)
and today when i turned on the system, windows booted up, and sudenly it restarts and freezes up in pre bios stage...
Reset or Shutdown resulted in power up, but nothing happening, the monitor did even got out of standby...
after a few tries, and about ten minutes without power, it started up and went to a bios stage, giving a CMOS Bad Checksum Error... loaded bios with fail-safe settings, system worked fine and booted up windows... windows worked fine aswell, attempt to reboot and change the bios settings, gave a Bad Checksum from start and a freeze in bios. System is not getting to bios stage once again...
A Mobo problem that warrants a vist to the store, to return it?

Quote from: mr.flint on 25-August-06, 00:11:37
oh and the PSU got two +12v rails with 20a on each, should be enough?... (though Enermax seems to have troubles with math since according to them 20a+20a=30a)
trust me, enermax doesn't have problems with math. this is actually how it works. you cannot just add up the 12v rails to get the max amps on the 12v.
Quote from: mr.flint on 26-August-06, 00:33:23
managed to boot with the suspected mem stick - running memtest-86 - counted 746321 errors and then froze.... looks like the stick IS defective
try to increase the memory voltage a bit. i think you should be safe up to 2.1V. if you still get errors in memtest, then you have a faulty memory module.

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