K9N SLI Platinum - IDE Channel Not Working

Hi Guys,
This is my first post... so forgive any dumb stuff.
I build a new PC every couple years for normal home use... little or no overclocking. I have worked in the computer and PC business for 30+ years... so I am fairly competent in this stuff. I am having trouble with my current project.
The system is described in the signature below. Everything assembled easily and the system came up to the "4 green LEDs" on the first power up. However, I can not get the system to boot from any IDE channel device so far. I have tried 3 ATAPI CD/DVD drives... the new NEC DVD burner, the Yamaha CD burner from my current PC and an older Toshiba CD-ROM drive. In each case the system will spin the drive and then move on to the next device in the system boot sequence.
There is one very telling symptom... on the first BOIS section STANDARD CMOS FEATURES... under the PRIMARY IDE MASTER... the name of the detected device is all gobblegook characters. This happens on all three drives. If you hit ENTER and go tho the detailed sub-section it appears that the characteristics of each drive is properly detected but the manufacturers data string has the first 20 or so characters all garbage. The last 8 or so characters of the string with the model number is OK.
I have tried to boot a Windows XP CD and a Windows 2000 CD from all three drives. Once... out of at least 2 dozen tries on the older slow CD-ROM read-only drive I got a "NTLoader not found". Every other boot attempt caused the drive to spin the CD... while the display showed a blinking cursor and then BIOS would move on to another device. I can boot DOS from a Floppy without any problem. The two SATA drives are detected without any of the garbage in the mfg data and seem to answer up OK... but who knows at this point.
My conclusion is that the motherboard IDE channel is bad. Based on reading this forum, I have swapped through 3 80-wire IDE cables... switched to 40-wire IDE cables... switched from MASTER to SLAVE to CABLE SELECT... tested all components successfully in my current PC
Any insight or advice is appreciated. I have never had to return a motherboard (or any component) before during a PC build up. All the stuff is from Newegg so I assume I'll be OK.
Brian
PS... I have had none of the start up symptoms described in the forum associated with the Antec NeoHE 550 power supply.

That trouble happends to me twice, many years ago with p3 PCs... In thefirst case when I'd boot up the POST shows garbage codes in IDE-0/1 channels and the trouble was the socket! I try another proccesor pushing down harder with the cooler and the information about IDE's were ok. In the second chapter, the trouble was the BIOS, the information about HD IDE auto configuration was wrong, I fix it writing manually the number of cylinder, clusters PIO mode and so on inside bios.... I hope this helps
PD. Advice: try options starting with only 1 HD, 1 cd drive, 1 MEMORY (IN SINGLE CHANNEL) and loading "default values" on bios to discard hardware, good luck

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Ok I unerstand but i have 201mhz whay 201 instend 200 ?!
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Quote from: iggsy on 29-July-05, 06:03:49
Ok I unerstand but i have 201mhz whay 201 instend 200 ?!
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I have a MSI K9N SLI plat MB, an AMD 64 x2 4200 cpu, a EVGA nvidia 7600GS video card and 2gb mem.
My problem is that I am unable to get windows XP, XP64, or Vista to run on my IDE hard drive.
I am running XP from an SATA HD and it works OK. I have a CD/DVD and IDE HD on the IDE controller.
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Quote from: don_mccarter on 24-August-06, 14:16:44
I have a MSI K9N SLI plat MB, an AMD 64 x2 4200 cpu, a EVGA nvidia 7600GS video card and 2gb mem.
My problem is that I am unable to get windows XP, XP64, or Vista to run on my IDE hard drive.
I am running XP from an SATA HD and it works OK. I have a CD/DVD and IDE HD on the IDE controller.
Updated BIOS to 1.3, no help.
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Trouble here too
My system bit similer to your one:
MSI K9N SLI Platinum
AMD Athlon64 X2 4200
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2x 256Mb nvidia 7600GS on SLI
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1x 250G SATA HDD
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750W Thermaltake Toughpower PSU
The problem what I'm getting is when I'm try to burn a DVD or CD... my PC shuts like you unplugged your power (not restarting)
first I thought something wrong with my DVD burner then I tried with a new one(had ASUS one now having LITE-on).. but still happening.. I have update the BIOS v1.3 as well..but didn't do any changes.. My DVD-RW connected to IDE controller.. that's only thing controlled by IDE.. don know how to fix this... I'm sure it can't be the PSU.. I changed my PSU 500W to 750W because of this matter.. I guess something wrong with the IDE controller.. only MSI can fix this... I'm waiting for a reply from them... :(
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Quote from: manuelmont on 25-September-06, 07:13:09
Everything seemed to work ok but the computer started to freeze once again during installation of other software which made the system unstable.
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Your PSU has way to low amperage for that system, the test is the change you made from a superior GFX to a lower end one, the NX7300GS eats alot of amps in comparison to the X300, and it does not have nothing to do with the TurboCache feature.
As for Sisoft Sandra I don't use that "I'm a potty mouth" (pardon my french ) I use Lavalys Everest or for disks HDtach, and others.
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HEY GUYS FINALLY GOT A ANSWER FROM MSI Co.
According to this best thing is RMA..
Dear Kamal,
We have fixed this issue by changing C565 from 100pF to 220pF. All the stock had been reworked, and we have informed all the MSI™ Distributor locators.
So please get your MB for RMA.
As to the RMA, The normal procedure is to contact your reseller (the place you bought the board from) for repair/exchange , If the reseller for some reason like bankrupt cannot be contacted, then contact MSI distributor http://www.msi.com.tw/program/contact/where2buy/ or MSI office near your place http://www.msi.com.tw/program/about/w2b/index.php
Sorry for any inconveniency.
Best wishes,
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I had the same problems as you have.
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"It's nothing to do with the PSU."
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Just wanted to add my two cents.
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