K9N2 Sli Platinum + SSD OCZ Vertex 3 = Slow Speed Problem [PARTIALLY SOLVED]

Hey folks,
I have a problem with my new SSD. I only get sequential reads of 140MB/s and writes of 114MB/s.
I think it is a driver related issue. I once got faster SATA2-like speeds but cannot reproduce the system settings again... Everything back to SATA1-like speeds after reboot.
First my pc specs:
MSI K9N2 Sli Platinum, BIOS v3.9
- 6 SATAII ports by nForce 750a SLI
- 2 ESATA (External-SATA) ports (back panel) by JMB363
- Supports storage and data transfers at up to 3 Gb/s
AMD Phenom II 965 Black
Patriot PV224G8500ELKB Viper II Series DDR2 4GB (2 x 2GB, CL5 PC-8500/1066MHz)
SSD SATAIII OCZ Vertex 3, 120GB, FW v2.11
LG Internal BlueRay BH10LS30
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
I only get very slow speeds with the SSD. I tried so many things that I am getting very frustrated now, I am even thinking about getting a new board and ram just to get the SSD up to speed...
1)
I installed Win7 first with all the default settings in Windows Setup from DVD. Default "IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers" driver was "Standard AHCI1.0 Serial ATA Controller".
SSD was connected to SATA1-port, On-Chip Sata Controller AHCI enabled in BIOS, Extra RAID/IDE Controller disabled.
All fine, but whichever benchmark I used (AS SSD, HD Tune Pro, Atto Disk Benchmark, CrystalDiskMark; other tools used: DriveControllerInfo, AIDA64/Everest, CrystalDiskInfo ) I got e.g. 140MB/s Read and 114MB/s Write sequentially (CrystalDiskmark, similar with random data AND only zeros ).
Trim working (it seems) with AHCI driver. I also changed to nvstor64 driver (nforce driver setup 15.56), with is marginally faster but not what you would expect from a SATAIII drive on SATAII controller.
2)
I installed Win7 using "diskpart" (Shift-F10) during disk setup, setting a cluster size of 64k instead of default. No real change.
3)
After reinstall of Win7 x64 (again...), I changed from SATA1 port to SATA6 port, also enabled Extra Raid/IDE controller set to AHCI as well.
Nothing changed. With all settings to default in Windows (ahci default driver), I then manually updated the ahci to nvstore64 driver in Device Management, rebooted.
Then a minute later after reboot I got the following Sequential speeds with CrystalDiskMark:
273MB/s read and 137MB/s write (random data) + 274MB/s read and 220MB/s write (with zeros) !!!
While I ran this benchmark Windows came up with a message: "You must restart your computer to apply these changes - Restart Now/Restart Later".
After the previos reboot, when I changed manually from AHCI to NVSTORE, I had changed nothing in the current session, apart from running CrystalDiskMark.
I did reboot and I was back to the slow SSD speeds again = 140/114 MB/s...
4)
I have tried every possible combination of mainboard SATA ports, drivers changing with nvidia setup/manually, deleting and disabling controllers (incl BSOD and startup repair :D ), chaning bios settings around, but I just cannot get back the faster speeds
There is never any change in speed, whether I use ahci or nvstore64, whichever benchmark I use, whether random or zeros...
5)
Could the SSD be broken, something internally preventing it from faster speeds (with this one random exception)?
Could it be that my K9N2 SataPorts only allows for / reduced to SATA1 speeds?
Am I missing something with the driver setup?
Do I need additional drivers for the extra JMicron Controller when using SataPorts 5/6 ?
I have no other mainboard to test this with...
Please guys, I am going to jump out of the window if I can't fix it... :(
Thanks, Mike

Hey guys - problem 'solved':
I tested the OCZ SSD Vertex 3 120GB with following sata3 controller card http://www.lycom.com.tw/PE-115H.htm.
The card itself works immediately (needs at least PCIe x4 slot, will work slower otherwise but still faster than the OCZ SSD @sata1 with nvidia chipset).
There is some raid setup, doesn't apply to me, the boot even with the card is really only a few seconds longer and not annoying at all. Windows (7 x64) needed a driver, supplied on CD (which is cheap and making noise like h**l). The card works w/o the driver but doesn't harm to install it...
Also, just to clarify, this sata controller card did not need any specific setup at all. Just put it in, plug in sata cable (I use akasa sata3-rated), maybe change boot device in BIOS (I didn't even have to), done - booting Windows as usual.
Benchmark CDM with sata controller card Lycom PE-115H:
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3845/cdmpe115hahci0x00.png
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/7549/cdmpe115hahcirand.png
Speed is much better than before with nvidia chipset 750a SLI controller: sata1 (sata2 whenever it randomly worked):
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/505/cdmahci0x0.png
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/6258/cdmahci0x0sata6contnv64.png
Final thoughts:
Well, I am happy with the SSD speed now (PCIe limited to 5Gbps). However, I had to spent quite some time to get it working on my sata2-cabable mainboard. Finally, I had to buy a extra controller card to get it working reliably at speeds faster than sata1. There is hardly any useful information on why this problem occurs with (older) nvidia chipsets and OCZ (sata3) SSDs. I still think that OCZ must know about this problem, but regards this issue as low priority, while at the same time not planning on giving up on sales to people with nvidia chipsets. Maybe OCZ should just make a big sticker on the box the drives come in with something like "Does/Might not work with nvidia chipsets, please use third-party sata controller card or different SSD manufacturer". But then none of these potential customers would buy OCZ SSDs...
I will keep the sata3 controller, anyway handy to have, but return the OCZ Vertex 3 120GB and replace it with a SSD from a different manufacturer (Corsair Force GT, Patriot and OWC are not that great to get around here). The benchmarks for most people will not achieve the maximum advertised OCZ speeds anyway, so why not go with a brand that allows for some plug'n'play with some customer support.
Hope this post helps others like me with their nvidia chipset + sata1 speed problem
Cheers, Mike

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I'm confused. You say to ignore the 127° reading, but then state you are concerned and talk about a false reading. What reading and what exactly are you concerned with, the CPU temps? If your system were getting that hot(127°C), you'd shut down or blow something. I'm sure it's a false reading.
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I have seen many posts related to this issue, but have found no solution. The only thread which seemed to be going somewhere went off topic and was closed before anything could be resolved
My Phenom II 940BE, at load, is constantly being overvolted between 1.37-.38 and 1.40v. In the BIOS, after a fresh CMOS reset, I see the processor is set to 1.80v in the cell menu. This is a false reading, though, since the hardware monitor still has it between the aforementioned 1.37-.38 and 1.40v. Regardless, the lowest setting I have available with the CPU voltage setting in the Cell Menu is 1.375v then AUTO.
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K9N2 SLI Platinum
Phenom II 940BE stock
Stock AMD cooler
8 gig of OCZ DDR-II 800 RAM (OCZ2N800SR2G) at stock
BFG GeForce 9800GT 1gig stock
Windows 7 X64 RTM
EDIMAX Wireless card 802.11n
Enermax Liberty Power Supply 500W (link)
2x Samsung Ecogreen 500gig in RAID0
Pioneer DVD-RW (SATA)
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You are most welcome! Ever so kind!
No performace lost, instead higher efficiency like you noticed.
Think of it like this:
A pipe with a big diameter can transport a lot of fluid.
A pipe with high pressure, where things have a high speed, can transport a lot of fluid.
A pipe where the diameter is not the same in both ends. Well, you can't say how much fluid will come out the other end, at least not without a lot of calculating and testing. (Like you also noticed. :D )
What is a pity is that program(mer)s have difficulties making use of all the cores. Phenom have four true cores. I think it will take about two years until all four can be put to full use, but if there ever is any real use in using all four cores is hard to say and a different question.
Sure AMD and Intel and Microsoft et al have found ways of distributing processor work, but they are far from optimized. And it isn't easy: Think of the project your work group got from your chief or teacher: How many should be involved? Or if you are 300 people in your dorm, or even just four of you in your family, should all help out with the washing up after supper?
No, is the best answer to that. So what has begun is developing processors, with a variety of cores. One may - as a silly example - make icons until or unless it can do better work somewhere else. - Not an easy thing making it do tasks like that, either! So that is why I did the washing up just now.

K9N2 SLI Platinum Powers down.

Big Problem starting! I purchased the K9N2 SLI Platinum board a couple months ago. For the first month everything went well except that my games would freeze such as Everquest. Never made any sense could freeze with in 5 minutes or, could be fine for over 5 days. Either way it was annoying so going through some information online I loaded optimal defaults on the Mobo BIOS and stopped loading the NVidia control panel at start up and it was great for a couple weeks no freezing. Now lately the computer just turns off. Like if you just pulled the power plug out. BOOM and its off. Could last 5 minutes or 5 days again. Very random. Nothing is over heating. Board is cool and CPU never goes higher then 49C. Most of the time I can hit the power button and turn the PC right back on again and its fine. Could blow again in 5 minutes or 5 days whether the PC is idle or I am playing a game. Now sometimes when it powers off. I can't turn it back on for a while. Ussually when this happenes there are no LEDs on in the Mobo. If I pull the power plug, let it sit for a min then plug it back in, it so far has powered back up ok. Another wierd thing is when I access the BIOS on start up now it seems to be shutting off. I want to say Power Supply may be? Prolly would be the first to try but would it explain the freezing games also int he beggining? It's 650watt and I am ussing the 8 pin rail since I have a pwoerfull CPU. May be there is a better recommended one for this type of Mobo. I tried the research the best one. My video card and ram worked great in my last PC but I had gotten the XFX 750 board and it was just horrible so I got rid of it. Rather of stayed with MSI which has been running better except for these issues. Any help would be greatly appriciated!
**** UPDATES ARE IN MY REPLIES UNDER THIS. DIDN'T KNOW I COULD UPDATE IN THE SAME POST ****
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Logisys 650 Watt 24 Pin Green Gamer Power Supply w/ SATA and PCI-E
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XFX GeForce 9600 GSO Video Card - 768MB DDR2, PCI Express 2.0, Dual Link DVI, SLI Ready
Western Digital Caviar SE16 500GB Hard Drive - 7200, 16MB, SATA-300

Ok i want to buy with my same company I bought the PSU from so I bought Prudent Way True One 1000watt nVidia Certified Quad SLI PCI-E w/ Six +12V Rails and Lifetime Warranty. They dont have the Corsair. I figure this one is beefy and solid. If it does power down too we should be able to rule out the PSU hopefully. If you think it's a bad choice please just say so. Should I be using 2 4pin rails or just the 8pin rail??? The manuals say you need an 8pin rail for my processor. I've seen some issues with using two 4 pins together saying it messes with the voltage or something?? What is a better way 2 four pins or just one 8 pin?? I've have checked for loose or frayed wires. No loose metal or screws in the case. Remember also it didn't do this for one whole month. Just some freezing with my everquest game. The only thing I don't like is how my pci-e video card sits in the mobo with this case. Looks like it can't go down all the way but if that were the problem, i figure it wouldn't work at all. I will take a day and rebuild this again in the case just to be safe like you said. I did take my time with mounting holes. Was very careful with this board. The power connections to the mobo seem a little wiggly but it just may be me. They seem to be making good contact. And also it just powered down again as i was typing this. Had to retype it. No shaking or bumping of the case. Plain aggravating this is!
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Logisys 650 Watt 24 Pin Green Gamer Power Supply w/ SATA and PCI-E
AMD Phenom X4 9850 Quad
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K9N2 SLI platinum - another problem w/ Phenom II

I decided to upgrade my K9N2 SLI Platinum from Phenom 9850BE to Phenom II 940 3.0GHz. I switched the CPUs but I didn't update the bios from 3.2 to 3.3. When I powered up the bios 3.2 system with the Phenom II it posted and booted but then blue screened. I restarted and went into the bios settings and checked the hardware monitor and it showed the CPU temperature at 80C! I looked at the voltage and this bios was giving the Phenom II 1.8 volts. I immediately shut down and felt the CPU sink and it was quite warm after only 60 seconds or so. That wasn't a stock heatsink either - it was a CNPS9700 with AS5 - a lot of copper to heat up.
It seems that the 3.2 bios, if it didn't recognize the CPU, should not have set the VCORE to the maximum of 1.8 volts and continue to run.
Also, I replaced the Phenom II with a sempron to upgrade the bios and had a problem after successfully flashing 3.3. I spent the weekend back and forth with MSI support and they sent a beta bios 3.3.3 that did work. My problem with 3.3 was that the machine would freeze before POST with the Group 2 LED flashing green/red.
I'm waiting for a new CPU and wondering if I should also RMA the motherboard. How come so many people seem to have flashed 3.3 with no problem but mine didn't work?
# CPU: worked: 9850BE with 4 2Gb sticks of CORSAIR DOMINATOR 1066 (worked at 1066 all four)
burned up by bios version 3.2 Phenom II 940
used to flash bios: Sempron 1800
# Motherboard model: K9N2 SLI Platnium
# Video card: MSI 8800GTS
# Hard drive(s) Seagate SATA 80Gb
# No other cards.
# Operating system: win32 XP
# Power Supply: New ANTEC Neoblue 650W.
Will

Quote from: hifi239 on 04-February-09, 00:37:10
Thanks for all the information. As I said, I have the MB working on a spare Sempron and I am waiting for a new 940, but here are some facts I'm still curious about:
1. With a plain vanilla Sempron 3400+ and a plain vanilla one stick of slow memory my K9N2 SLI Platinum will not boot correctly with bios 3.3, even after resetting cmos, unplugging, etc. MSI tech had to send me 3.3B3. Anyone know why that would be. Is there something wrong or different about my MB compared with everyone else that has 3.3? What bug in 3.3 is fixed with 3.3B3?
The sempron should boot correctly. (3.3Beta3 is a pre-3.30)
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2. I'm sorry but I think that with 3.2 or 3.3 or 3.3B3, before flashing, after flashing, with cmos reset, with cmos not reset, the bios should never put the red maximum 1.8 volts on a CPU it doesn't recognize. I never set that parameter. It is a bios bug for it to switch up to 1.8 Vcore. I had the 9850BE at Auto (about 1.1V I think).
You need 3.30 and after reset the cmos.
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3. "I doubt it burned the CPU" Really? The max case temp for 940 is 60C. Mine got to 80C. That's not good, even if it does still work. Fortunately I purchased from NE who will RMA it.
I doubt yours even got 80C as you where using the wrong BIOS...did you measure it with a digital temp-meter?
Did you burn your fingers on the heatsink?
It's not the first time a CPU temp is being read wrong in the BIOS.
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4. digit123abc said "i have the same board and 940BE, 3.3 sets the cpu voltage to 1.8volts even after bios reset and loading defaults" So, when I get the new 940, with 3.3B3 am I really going to have to rush into the bios and change the 1.8Volts to auto before I burn that CPU also? If so, that's a bad bios bug.
A BIOS default is Vcore at Auto, never seen anything else....not a BIOS-bug but he didn't reset the cmos after flashing.
And again 3.3Beta3 is older then 3.30 that is release version.
Same as with Windows7 Beta....thats prior to Windows7 Release.

K9N2 SLI Platinum with Xigmatek Dark Knight S1283V Mounted - w/ Pictures

((I've updated my Temperature results in MY FIFTH POST DOWN; so please refer to the results in that post before jumping to conclusions!))
So.
I had some Credit available at a local Micro Center after returning a couple items to there that didn't work.
I decided to apply this credit to a new Cooler for my Phenom II 940 BE; and I settled on a Xigmatek Dark Knight S1283V. It is basically the same thing as Xigmatek's HDT-S1283; just with black nickle over its aluminum fins and copper heat pipes. Read a lot of reviews that seemed to put Xigamtek's HDT model Coolers "on par" with both the TRue120 and OCZ Vendetta. I settled on the Black Knight primarily because I didn't want one that was all shiny and flashy; and this one supported the "snap on" lever set up of the AM2+ socket; rather then having to removemy Mob and bolting it on.
Got it mounted; though it didn't quite mount the way I had wanted it to; was hoping to have vertical, it so the fan blew through it and out the back of the case, via the case fan on the back. But it mounts horizontal the AM2 Socket. So the Fan is flat and blowing downwards.
Anyway.
I am thus far not as impressed as I had hoped. It does not seem any better then my Stock Cooler; with my Phenom II 940BE on stock settings at 3.0ghz..
Idle temps around 44c.
Running Prime95 and it immediately jumped to 55c as soon as the "Torture Test" started, and gradually rose to 64c where its been holding there. I get the same results from my Stock Cooler.
This, is with Arctic Silver 5 applied to the base of the block as opposed to the thermal compound that came included with it.
Anyway, here are some pictures of it mounted on my K9N2 SLI Platinum.
Dark Knights Fan is blowing air DOWNwards.
Case Fan immediately to the left of the Dark Knight here, is blowing air out the back of the case.
The Case fan just above that, is blowing air into the case, as my HDD used to be there but no longer is.
The Case fan at the roof, of the case, is also blowing air into the case.
There is a large 120mm fan on the front of the case which is not shown, that is also blowing air into the case.
Left side of the Dark Knight; just barely touches the CIRCU PIPE Heat sink.
Right Side of the Dark Knight, just barely covers DIMM Slot 1. It pushed my Ram to the side by a couple Milimeters, so I moved them into Dimms slots 3-4.
Perhaps, the rest of my Fans need to be adjusted to work best with this; I am not sure.
But I expected to see at least a difference of 5 - 10 degrees celsius when compared with my stock cooler. I was, hoping to use this thing to push my chip into a higher Overclock. As it is, with my stock cooler, I can not overclock much higher then 3.4ghz. But if this Xigmatek is preforming about the same as my stock cooler, then I am afraid it just won't do for a suitable cooler for overclocking...

The Stock vCore for the chip is 1.350v.
I was able to go as high as 3.5gz with that. When I pushed to 3.6ghz, I had to push the vCore up to 1.375v.
At 3.7ghz, I had to push the vCore up to 1.4v.. and am now running at 1.450v for 3.8ghz.
This particular chip is claimed to be able to push 4.0ghz at 1.5v; though most people haven't been able to achieve this without Liquid Cooling. Infact, AMD set a Worlds Record with this chip, pushing it to 6.5ghz under Liquid Nitrogen... They did the same with the PhenomII x3 720BE.
Also; I was using the Stock Cooler on mine at 3.5ghz and was getting similar Temps to what you're getting. The Stock AMD cooler can't take that chip much pasted the 3.5/3.6 marks, depending on Chip, as bare in mind, not every chip of the same model is the same. Your 940BE may run differently from mine...
You're also using a different motherboard; so your Heat Pipes layout and configuration is different from mine; nt sure if this would have much effect on your CPU heat, don't think it should.... But it looks like your Mobo has more room to mount that V1 in a vertical position, with the fan blowing out the rear. Coolers like mine, can't mount that way.
I honestly believe though, if Xigmatek were able to supply their S1283 series coolers with a mounting bracket that would allow it to mount vertically like that, then it would dramatically improve its performance.
At present, mine is blowing air up, from the Video Cards, through the Cooler, and up towards the fans at the top which pulls it out the case. My video Cards are pushing 70c under load so I'm already pulling hot air. I also have two Thermaltake iCage's now, with 120mm Fans on the front, blowing air out the back. One of those is blowing air directly over the Cooler, and out the rear case fan.... which is why I think if I were able to mount a cooler in a vertical position, the CPU would probably run even cooler.

K9N2 SLI Platinum shows all green, but no video output

Ok, here goes - I hope you guys can help me...
I built a new setup last night, using the following components:
AMD Phenom 9850 Black Edition 2.5 Ghz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core
K9N2 SLI Platinum
OCZ Reaper HPC 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (2 x 2GB)
eVGA GeForce 9800 GTX (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI-Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready
Seagate IDE Hard Drive 120GB (not sure of model)
Windows XP Home Edition SP2 installed
Antec Earthwatts 650 - voltages follow:
Min Max
+5V 0.2A 25.0A ±5％
+12V1 0.5A 22.0A ±5％
+12V2 0.5A 22.0A ±5％
+12V3 0.5A 25.0A ±5％
-12V 0 A 0.5A ±10％
+5VSB 0 A 2.5A ±5％
+3.3V 0.1A 25.0A ±5％
I build the board, mount all components, then power on - board LEDs cycle through pattern, then land on all green. There is no video output at all during this process. I tried the PCI-E card, the onboard DVI, the onboard DVI without the video card installed.
During boot, I hear a beep that may be a long (sounds like a faint "power on" beep), and then two fainter beeps in quick succession. They don't seem to be in connection with one another.
During the boot, there is also little to no activity from the hard drive. The board reaches all green, then I hear the CPU fan spin faster, and the hard drive activates, then the board flashes to all red, and the reboot sequence begins again.
I've tried removing memory, seating just one stick, and swapping out for a second stick. The fact that the board reaches all green makes me think that everything is seated properly and functioning, but the fact that there is no video output (hence no way to access BIOS) is obviously troubling, plus the incapability of booting.
Questions - the 8-pin ATX power connection had a cover over four of the eight pins - why is that there? I connected an eight pin to the connector, should I have left the cover in place and just used a four?
I realize that using an older hard drive from a previous build is not the best idea, but I'm hoping it shouldn't be a factor this early in the boot process.
I have not flashed the CMOS yet - would that have any effect on the boot process? Again, getting to all green is promising, but the subsequent return to all red is... not.
I've looked through the forum as best I could, but didn't see any issue where the board got to all green, and then backtracked when starting up.
Any help you guys can provide would be greatly appreciated...

Hello!
Don't worry about the hard disk for now. You will need a new installation of Windows, but that would be next step.
9850 needs the latest BIOS version. http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=prodcpu2&prod_no=1443&maincat_no=1
Use the MSI forum tool. https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=116721.0 Impossible of course! Ask the store to update BIOS for you, or find an earlier, simpler compatible processor friend.
The single beep is a power-good signal. The two fainter ones are probably USB things attached.

K9n2 sli platinum will only boot/post when running single channel

Hey
I am having problems with the rig when i want memory to run Dual channel.
I have tried all bios settings (or at least i think so) and all memory slot combination (or at least i think so) without any luck.
When i put 2 sticks in dimm 1+2 I get nothing but a black screen.
When I then turn my pc off, putting 1 stick in dimm 1 it will boot and I get the message: DQS training failed on previous boot.
Mainboard: MSI K9N2 Sli platinum
CPU: AMD 5600X2 Windsor 2x1mb cache
HD: have tried with WD 250gb and hitachi 160gb sata2
Psu: Have tried with OCZ 500W and corsair 620W
Memory: Have tried with kingston pc5400 and Adata pc6400 both 1gb sticks
GFX: Have tried with GF8800GTS, ATI 1800XT and GF8500GT
CPU cooler: CM Gemini2
Motherboard have BIOS 3.1 ( so there should be no problem with running the cpu)
everything except for mainboard have been testet with other gear and is working 100%
Memory passed memtest with no errors.
Some facts
1 stick in dimm 1 = boot/post single channel
1 stick in dimm 2 = black screen.
1 stick in dimm 3 = boot/post single channel
1 stick in dimm 4 = black screen
1 stick in dimm 1 + 2 = black screen.
1 stick in dimm 1 + 3 = boot/post single channel
1 stck in dimm 2 + 4 black screen
1 stckk in dimm 3 + 4 black screen.
1 stick in 1 + 4 = Boot/postor black screen..cant remember but for sure not dual.
1 stick in 2 + 3 = boot/post or black screen..cant remember but for sure not dual
I have tried:
manual timming settings, both recommended and lower timmings.
Auto timmings
More volt to memory
More volt to cpu
Tried 800, 667, 553 and 400mhz
Tried sli memory disabled and enabled
Changing cpu ratio
Tried T2 and T1
Have tried load default settings
load optimized settings
everything on auto
well, that’s just about it and don’t know what to try next.
So if anybody have some input I would really appreciate it.
Regards
Jesper

Have you done that?:
Quote from: Stu on 13-September-09, 02:54:40
Have you tried taking the board out of the case and setting up outside on a flat anti-static surface? Maybe there is something shorting the back of the board where the DIMM slot is.
If no change:
Leave just one memory stick in 1st DIMM close to CPU socket,
ensure that system is stable the flash to the latest BIOS ==>
http://eu.msi.com/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=bios&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1443
You can >>Use the MSI HQ Forum USB flasher<<
Once done re-test.

K9N2 SLI Platinum - Testing

Ok so since I built this PC in February I have tested it with Windows XP SP3 Pro and Windows 7 Beta. Only issues I've had is with the HD Audio from Realtek. I read posts here about people having problems with their K9N2 SLI Platinum boards and maybe you're trying too hard.
My system specs are below, my PSU from Ultra is the 2nd Ultra PSU that I have owned, the first generation X-Connect 500W I had lasted from February 2005 to February 2009 and probably still has 5-10 years left on it. I upgraded to the 3rd Generation X-Connect 600W PSU, it's sufficient for single graphics card and powers everything just fine. Modular to keep airflow awesome.
I would only trust these PSU manufacturers:
Ultra
Corsair
Thermaltake
Enermax
Antec
I have only good reviews for Ultra and Enermax since I've owned them and they have never failed.
Back to the motherboard though, so my findings is that Windows XP Pro SP3 still has a few issues with this motherboard, mostly due to audio drivers, but not MSI's fault. Windows 7 Beta runs like a top, absolutely will be buying Windows 7 when it becomes available.
I had a red LED on my board for the longest time, then I figured out the issue, no floppy drive installed, after turning off the FDD controller, the red light went away.
CPU Idle Temps 23C with an Ambient Temp of about 70F, Load 30-32C same ambient temp. Stock HSF, 5 Case fans, no thermal compound, and excellent cable management.
Basically I completely love this board, but Realtek needs some better drivers for Windows XP.
I think I will be testing OpenSUSE on this after Windows 7 beta expires.
For those having troubles with this board I really don't know what to say, maybe try paying for the name when you buy PSU, Memory, Video. I went with Ultra, Corsair, and MSI and I did my research and I actually read many bad reviews of this board and still bought it. 2nd MSI board I've owned, love them both.
Anyway, thought I'd write something positive here, instead of seeing all the negativity towards MSI.

I have had bad experiences with Ultra as well.
PSU's: RAM: HDD: Mobo:
Thermaltake Corsair WD MSI
Apevia OCZ Hitachi Asus
Kingwin PNY Seagate Gigabyte
Corsair Kingston
Crucial

MSI K9N2 SLI Platinum nForce 750a Problem

I bought this barebone kit a couple days ago http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4692741&CatId=3508 and I had no troubles, I installed the 4GB Sli-READY 2GB RAM and thought that it wouldn't hurt to have another 4GB. So I bought the same RAM, and installed it, I started to get BSOD when I start programs, or games like "Lineage 2". I tried changing the voltage on DRAM but l can't change it to 1.8v, or 2.1v (2.1v says that the pc might be unstable) so l set it to auto. l also made it [AUTO] for SLI-READY DRAM. l still get BSOD.
Help would be greatly appreciated, the specs on the computer are:
MSI K9N2 SLI Platinum Motherboard
AMD Phenom X4 9850 Black Ed. 2.50GHz
OCZ SLI 4096MB PC6400 DDR2 / 8GB
Western Digital Caviar Green 500GB Hard Drive
Ultra LSP550 550-Watt Power Supply
(2) XFX nVidia 9800GT 512MB (1GB cause l have 2) SLI - Ready
Sound Blaster Audigy SE
My operating system is a Windows XP 64bit Edition.

Quote from: Younha on 04-July-09, 01:38:49
May you please explain how to use memtest and drop the mem. freq. to 667 and the 2T thing? :x
Memtest details ==> https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=103598.msg760534#msg760534
Quote
drop the mem. freq. to 667 and the 2T thing? :x
Apply "FSB/DRAM Ratio" in BIOS, 'Cell Menu' to 1:1.66
Quote
and the 2T thing? :x
By default it should be already 2T, verify that with CPU-Z memory tab{Command Rate} ==> http://www.cpuid.com/download/cpuz/cpuz_151_setup.exe

K9N2 SLI Platinum Poor Performance

My son and I put together the system listed below. It booted up and accepted the XP Pro install fine. But response was noticebly slow
especially when Starwars Battlefront 2 was loaded. Response was slow and choppy. This game ran smooth on his older AMD 2400, ASUS SLI-Deluxe MOBO with 2 512MB ram sticks... Checked bios in new system and found FSB showed 200MHz. I was expecting 1066MHz or more. What's with this? Are we missing a bios seting somewhere?
Thanks in advance for any insight.
Regard's,
ronr
MOBO: MSI K9N2 SLI Platinum, AM2+, nForce750a
CPU: AMD Phenom X4 9859 Quad Core, Black Edition,Socket AM2+
RAM:Crucial Ballistix, 2048MB (2 - 1GB sticks), PC8500, DDR2, 1066MHz
HDD: WD Caviar 320GB SATA-3G
Video: BFG, nVidia GeForce GTX 280, using DVI port
PSU: Coolmax, CR-550B, 550W (+12V1=17A,+12V2=18A)
DVD/CD: Generic combo player/burner
Floppy: Generic 3 1/2
Keyboard: Generic 102 PS2
Monitor: Samsung 20" LCD digital

Better choices would be:
Corsair TX650
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005
Corsair TX750
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006
PC Power & Cooling Silencer 610
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703005
PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750s
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703009
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703019
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341011

K9N2 Sli Platinum after thought

HI and new to the forums.
This is what I have
AMD Phenom 9850 Black Edition
K9N2 Sli Platinum board
9800 GTX BFG Geforce 512 MB
OCZ Stealth Xtreme PSU 600 Watt
OCZ Platinum Memory 4 gigs, 2 gigs per stick 1066
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500AAKS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP3 for System Builders - OEM
Just installed basic on the board and booted, everything was going fine then i installed the vid card, and when I did, i didn't hook up both pci express power cords to the card and i started up and got a message not sure of exactlly what it said but came to the effect of not enough power to card and had to shut down so damage wouldn't be done to the motherboard, so i clicked ok and shut down, removed the card off the board and then turned system back on and wouldn't boot, stuck on MSI screen, go to post and wouldn't do anything. I did research, and tried booting with 1 stick of memory and got it to do that a few times, then it went back to not starting. So i thiough maybe the memory was bad, went out to fry's real quick bought 2 gigs of Ballistix memory 1066 speed and still nothing. Talked with MSI tech support was told to flash bios,wasn't on the current version, clear the cmos, did all that maybe got it 2 start 1 more time then nothing. Now i've RMA'd the board and memory and waiting on new, is there something I did wrong? Thanks for any replies

Quote from: Scooter71 on 14-January-09, 07:50:13
But system does power up, figured if power supply went out it either works or it doesn't
No, that's wrong info. PSU can goes down by different ways.
Quote from: Scooter71 on 14-January-09, 06:19:50
Hey, I did that and wouldn't come back up into operation system. Did all the ram swapping and got it to boot a time or two then nothing. So i sent back the motherboard and ram for RMA, which newegg was able to do for me
Also wanted to add, by hooking up card wrong, that seems to be the start of the problem of screwing up the system, just wondering..
Eh... I've told you to check cables, you have staring to RMA and RMA the wrong parts...
Problem is in the PSU or in the VGA, not in RAM or in the mainboard.
"Talked with MSI tech support was told to flash bios,wasn't on the current version, clear the cmos, did all that maybe got it 2 start 1 more time then nothing."
That's another not accurate advice.

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