K9n2 sli platinum will only boot/post when running single channel

Hey
I am having problems with the rig when i want memory to run Dual channel.
I have tried all bios settings (or at least i think so) and all memory slot combination (or at least i think so) without any luck.
When i put 2 sticks in dimm 1+2 I get nothing but a black screen.
When I then turn my pc off, putting 1 stick in dimm 1 it will boot and I get the message: DQS training failed on previous boot.
Mainboard: MSI K9N2 Sli platinum
CPU: AMD 5600X2 Windsor 2x1mb cache
HD: have tried with WD 250gb and hitachi 160gb sata2
Psu: Have tried with OCZ 500W and corsair 620W
Memory: Have tried with kingston pc5400 and Adata pc6400 both 1gb sticks
GFX: Have tried with GF8800GTS, ATI 1800XT and GF8500GT
CPU cooler: CM Gemini2
Motherboard have BIOS 3.1 ( so there should be no problem with running the cpu)
everything except for mainboard have been testet with other gear and is working 100%
Memory passed memtest with no errors.
Some facts
1 stick in dimm 1 = boot/post single channel
1 stick in dimm 2 = black screen.
1 stick in dimm 3 = boot/post single channel
1 stick in dimm 4 = black screen
1 stick in dimm 1 + 2 = black screen.
1 stick in dimm 1 + 3 = boot/post single channel
1 stck in dimm 2 + 4 black screen
1 stckk in dimm  3 + 4 black screen.
1 stick in 1 + 4 = Boot/postor black screen..cant remember but for sure not dual.
1 stick in 2 + 3 = boot/post or black screen..cant remember but for sure not dual
I have tried:
manual timming settings, both recommended and lower timmings.
Auto timmings
More volt to memory
More volt to cpu
Tried 800, 667, 553 and 400mhz
Tried sli memory disabled and enabled
Changing cpu ratio
Tried T2 and T1
Have tried load default settings
load optimized settings
everything on auto
well, that’s just about it and don’t know what to try next.
So if anybody have some input I would really appreciate it.
Regards
Jesper

Have you done that?:
Quote from: Stu on 13-September-09, 02:54:40
Have you tried taking the board out of the case and setting up outside on a flat anti-static surface? Maybe there is something shorting the back of the board where the DIMM slot is.
If no change:
Leave just one memory stick in 1st DIMM close to CPU socket,
ensure that system is stable the flash to the latest BIOS ==>
http://eu.msi.com/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=bios&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1443
You can >>Use the MSI HQ Forum USB flasher<<
Once done re-test.

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    I originally had a 350W Enermax power supply (which worked as long as the monitor was not plugged in) supplying 32A on the +3.3V rail, 32A on the +5V rail and 26A on the +12V rail but I replaced it with the power supply shown on my profile (which was probably totally unnecessary as I'm only using the integrated video --but hey, I now have a blue light coming from my power supply so that makes it all worth it  ). I suppose both power supplies could work badly with this motherboard model but it seems exceedingly unlikely that that would be the case (specially since everything works as long as there is no monitor plugged in during video mode switches).
    I currently am running it, on cardboard, with a single stick of RAM (on the slot next to the CPU) and nothing else connected to it except the power supply (including JPW3 & JPW4), the CPU, a hard disk with a working Windows XP install, a mouse on the mouse port and a keyboard on the keyboard port (specification as on my profile minus one RAM module). I did play with RAM timings at the request of tech support but I can't imagine how it could be a RAM problem when everything works as long as a monitor isn't plugged in during video mode switches.
    I did update the BIOS from 3.4 to 3.5. 3.5 did not seem to be available at the time of my previous motherboard and I knew it was a real long shot for this to be a BIOS issue that would be fixed with the 3.5 update (specially since the update mentions only CPU support stuff and nothing about video) but I am desperate. Yes, I have done the whole resetting the CMOS thing.
    I am even considering the possibility that there may be some weird incompatibility between the video on this board and my monitor (under the assumption that, quoting Holmes, once you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth). I don't even know how that would work. Note that my monitor worked in my previous system with the digital input (my previous system is no longer available to me for testing --but I did get a chance to test it, after having problems with my first K9N2 SLI Platinum motherboard which I returned, and it worked). Note that my monitor works with the system in question (I simply cannot have it connected while there's a video mode switch under way). Note that the lack of a picture seems to be related to the motherboard as evidenced by it being stuck at the video initialization stage if I attempt to start it with the monitor connected.
    Any wild ideas? I do not want to return this motherboard a third time  and I specially do not want to return this motherboard a third time if it's something that can be easily fixed.

    Quote from: Svet on 25-May-09, 02:21:06
    Have you tried with just memory stick in 1st DIMM near to CPU socket and mainboard out of PC case?
    Yes, I currently am running it, on cardboard outside the case, with a single DIMM (on the slot next to the CPU) and nothing else connected to it except for the power supply (including JPW3 & JPW4), the CPU, a hard disk with a working Windows XP install, a mouse on the mouse port and a keyboard on the keyboard port (specification as on my profile minus one RAM module). And it works,... as long as the monitor is not ever connected while video mode switches occur (including power on). And this is exactly how the previous motherboard which I returned also behaved.
    Addendum: As an additional note, I have tried the other DIMM on the same socket by the CPU with the same results (everything works as long as there's no monitor connected during a video mode switch). I also managed to make a bootable Memtest86+ (is that what people use to test memory these days?) USB stick and I am running it right now. It has shown no errors right so far but it has only been running a few minutes. I do not really expect any memory errors to be at fault since they would have to be magical memory errors which only cause problems when there is a monitor connected while a video mode switch is happening but I'm desperate to try anything to find out what the issue is.

  • K9N2 Sli Platinum + SSD OCZ Vertex 3 = Slow Speed Problem [PARTIALLY SOLVED]

    Hey folks,
    I have a problem with my new SSD. I only get sequential reads of 140MB/s and writes of 114MB/s.
    I think it is a driver related issue. I once got faster SATA2-like speeds but cannot reproduce the system settings again... Everything back to SATA1-like speeds after reboot.
    First my pc specs:
    MSI K9N2 Sli Platinum, BIOS v3.9
    - 6 SATAII ports by nForce 750a SLI
    - 2 ESATA (External-SATA) ports (back panel) by JMB363
    - Supports storage and data transfers at up to 3 Gb/s
    AMD Phenom II 965 Black
    Patriot PV224G8500ELKB Viper II Series DDR2 4GB (2 x 2GB, CL5 PC-8500/1066MHz)
    SSD SATAIII OCZ Vertex 3, 120GB, FW v2.11
    LG Internal BlueRay BH10LS30
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
    I only get very slow speeds with the SSD. I tried so many things that I am getting very frustrated now, I am even thinking about getting a new board and ram just to get the SSD up to speed...  
    1)
    I installed Win7 first with all the default settings in Windows Setup from DVD. Default "IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers" driver was "Standard AHCI1.0 Serial ATA Controller".
    SSD was connected to SATA1-port,  On-Chip Sata Controller AHCI enabled in BIOS,  Extra RAID/IDE Controller disabled.
    All fine, but whichever benchmark I used (AS SSD, HD Tune Pro, Atto Disk Benchmark, CrystalDiskMark; other tools used: DriveControllerInfo, AIDA64/Everest, CrystalDiskInfo ) I got e.g. 140MB/s Read and 114MB/s Write sequentially (CrystalDiskmark, similar with random data AND only zeros ).
    Trim working (it seems) with AHCI driver. I also changed to nvstor64 driver (nforce driver setup 15.56), with is marginally faster but not what you would expect from a SATAIII drive on SATAII controller.
    2)
    I installed Win7 using "diskpart" (Shift-F10) during disk setup, setting a cluster size of 64k instead of default. No real change.
    3)
    After reinstall of Win7 x64 (again...), I changed from SATA1 port to SATA6 port, also enabled Extra Raid/IDE controller set to AHCI as well.
    Nothing changed. With all settings to default in Windows (ahci default driver), I then manually updated the ahci to nvstore64 driver in Device Management, rebooted.
    Then a minute later after reboot I got the following Sequential speeds with CrystalDiskMark:
    273MB/s read and 137MB/s write (random data)  +  274MB/s read and 220MB/s write (with zeros) !!!
    While I ran this benchmark Windows came up with a message: "You must restart your computer to apply these changes - Restart Now/Restart Later".
    After the previos reboot, when I changed manually from AHCI to NVSTORE, I had changed nothing in the current session, apart from running CrystalDiskMark.
    I did reboot and I was back to the slow SSD speeds again = 140/114 MB/s...
    4)
    I have tried every possible combination of mainboard SATA ports, drivers changing with nvidia setup/manually, deleting and disabling controllers (incl BSOD and startup repair :D ), chaning bios settings around, but I just cannot get back the faster speeds  
    There is never any change in speed, whether I use ahci or nvstore64, whichever benchmark I use, whether random or zeros...
    5)
    Could the SSD be broken, something internally preventing it from faster speeds (with this one random exception)?
    Could it be that my K9N2 SataPorts only allows for / reduced to SATA1 speeds?
    Am I missing something with the driver setup?
    Do I need additional drivers for the extra JMicron Controller when using SataPorts 5/6 ?
    I have no other mainboard to test this with...
    Please guys, I am going to jump out of the window if I can't fix it... :(
    Thanks, Mike

    Hey guys - problem 'solved':  
    I tested the OCZ SSD Vertex 3 120GB with following sata3 controller card http://www.lycom.com.tw/PE-115H.htm.
    The card itself works immediately (needs at least PCIe x4 slot, will work slower otherwise but still faster than the OCZ SSD @sata1 with nvidia chipset).
    There is some raid setup, doesn't apply to me, the boot even with the card is really only a few seconds longer and not annoying at all. Windows (7 x64) needed a driver, supplied on CD (which is cheap and making noise like h**l). The card works w/o the driver but doesn't harm to install it...
    Also, just to clarify, this sata controller card did not need any specific setup at all. Just put it in, plug in sata cable (I use akasa sata3-rated), maybe change boot device in BIOS (I didn't even have to), done - booting Windows as usual.
    Benchmark CDM with sata controller card Lycom PE-115H:
    http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3845/cdmpe115hahci0x00.png
    http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/7549/cdmpe115hahcirand.png
    Speed is much better than before with nvidia chipset 750a SLI controller: sata1 (sata2 whenever it randomly worked):
    http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/505/cdmahci0x0.png
    http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/6258/cdmahci0x0sata6contnv64.png
    Final thoughts:
    Well, I am happy with the SSD speed now (PCIe limited to 5Gbps). However, I had to spent quite some time to get it working on my sata2-cabable mainboard. Finally, I had to buy a extra controller card to get it working reliably at speeds faster than sata1. There is hardly any useful information on why this problem occurs with (older) nvidia chipsets and OCZ (sata3) SSDs. I still think that OCZ must know about this problem, but regards this issue as low priority, while at the same time not planning on giving up on sales to people with nvidia chipsets. Maybe OCZ should just make a big sticker on the box the drives come in with something like "Does/Might not work with nvidia chipsets, please use third-party sata controller card or different SSD manufacturer".   But then none of these potential customers would buy OCZ SSDs...  
    I will keep the sata3 controller, anyway handy to have, but return the OCZ Vertex 3 120GB and replace it with a SSD from a different manufacturer (Corsair Force GT, Patriot and OWC are not that great to get around here). The benchmarks for most people will not achieve the maximum advertised OCZ speeds anyway, so why not go with a brand that allows for some plug'n'play with some customer support.
    Hope this post helps others like me with their nvidia chipset  + sata1 speed problem
    Cheers, Mike

  • K9N2 SLI Platinum: USB mouse works, other USB devices iffy or not at all.

    I have a K9N2 SLI Platinum running now, and lately it's become rather flakey on me.  Windows Mobile device center cut out on me last month when I tried to update the phone software, which I guess should have been the first clue.  I notice that the flash drives I connect aren't showing up, and the new Ipod I bought last week doesn't show up at all, either. 
    Symptoms include:
    1. When I connect my HTC Excalibur up, Windows 7 realizes this is a phone, and starts up or installs Windows Mobile Device Center for me.  However, midway through installing the actual device, it stops and tells me the device is disconnected.  The phone is plugged in, and I've been afraid to touch it during this process.  On rare occasions, the phone actually is detected and installed, somewhere in the next dozen connections it reverts back to the drawing board, though.
    2. I have a bunch of flash drives that never show up on the computer now.  At least one of them showed up in the past, and transferred files just fine.  When I plug them in, I don't get the new device connected noise, and they don't show up in the System screen.
    3. I've managed to completely kill the batteries of two separate Ipods.  (Which actually worked out for me when they let me upgrade the new nano to a new classic).  It doesn't detect that anything is attached to the USB line.  Doesn't matter if I hook it up in disk mode, run "the 5Rs" or what, these little buggers starve to death on the line.
    4. Throughout all of these situations, two devices work no matter which rear USB slots I hook them to: the Microsoft Mouse, and my HP PSC 2700 printer.  So long as I don't pull them out while the machine is running, I don't have to do anything special to get Windows 7 to find and use them.  Unplugging the printer will get the device disconnected noise, but does not free up any resources to detect anything else attached.
    5. The front two USB slots don't work at all.  I don't think they've ever worked for me, so I'll deal with that mess sometime later.  Turning the computer off, unplugging these, and restarting with just the 4 rear slots enabled does not help the problem.
    What I've tried so far:
    1. Reinstalling Windows 7 after formatting the partition.
    2. Reinstalling the Nvidia nforce drivers from Nvidia's site using my board/processor specs.
    3. Reinstalling the software that normally detects these devices: Itunes, Windows MDC, etc.
    4. I've attempted to uninstall the USB drivers, but as the mouse connects here, that's been forcing a hard restart instead of shutting Windows7 down as normal.  On restart, mouse is reinstalled but problem remains.
    5. I've tried disabling Legacy USB drivers in the BIOS. No dice.
    6. I can't get a BIOS flash to work from the Live Update tools, (perhaps for the better), and the USB sticks aren't working to flash from one of those.  (Granted I can still boot and I'm otherwise stable).
    All I can think of is that maybe prior to reinstallation I pulled off something with CCleaner that I actually needed, but the reinstallation should have fixed that if it was a registry error.

    I'm sorry, I need to be a bit clearer, apparently.  The devices on the list were not plugged in at the same time.  Instead, I decided to see which if any devices would work by plugging them in one at a time.  The printer was plugged in for all of them, as was the mouse, then I repeated the one at a time process with both the printer and the mouse unplugged to see if anything new happened.  Results were posted line by line on the list above.
    Now then, I have managed to get my hands on an x86 version of Windows 7.  Surprise, surprise, it works.  Phone not only detects, but also installs.  When I plug in a Sandisk Cruiser, Windows 7 finds it, powers it up, installs drivers and assigns it a drive letter within about 5 seconds.  I haven't gotten around to installing the iTunes yet and getting the iPod running, but I suspect it'll work if everything else is showing up now.  Thus far, the only thing that hasn't worked when installed is the Logitec Gamepad, but then again I just plugged this one in to satisfy my curiousity.  There are probably some drivers I need if I want to actually play games with it.
    While this seems like it would solve the issue, the problem remains that I bought the board so I could eventually upgrade the RAM well beyond the 2GB I have installed.  Since x86 seems to only go up to 3GB, that's going to kind of defeat my purpose there.  Also, I've only got 30 days on this install, then I'm back to square one where I have to either use my x64 license/disc to get a legal, crippled copy going, or reinstall another x86 build.  Pretty sure copy protection will start kicking in soon on that. 
    Any Ideas?

  • K9N2 SLi Platinum - Raid Issues

    Components:
    Enermax Pro82+ 525W
    MSI K9N2 SLi Platinum
    AMD 5400+ Black Edition
    2x2Gb SUPER*TALENT DDRII 800Mhz CL4
    MSI 8800GT 512mb
    1 X WD Blue 500Gb Sata2
    2 x WD Blue 320GB Sata2 (NEW SET)
    Basically, I've had only the 500Gb HD as the main disk, Now I've got a set of 320GB's for Raid, which i'd like to add to my current setup without Re-installing OS coz the main drive contains necessary Data etc. So I Enable the Raid settings in Bios as outlined in the Manual. Setup the raid in the Mediashield Raid Bios. Windows Vista 32 simply Bsods at the Windows loading screen, with latest MB RAID drivers from MSI & Nvidia tested, still the same.
    I've discovered in other threads, people experiencing something similar. According to what I've learnt is the best is going to have to Set the single 500Gb Drive into a stripe and re-install. I've tried other alternatives, like leaving the the 320's as single drives and setting up the raid through windows Mediashield, same problem after rebooting. Compared to My older rig, RAID seems to not work so starightforward on the K9N2. MSI should be more Specific with instructions and limitations to implementing a Raid.
    That's not my biggest problem here though, I've disconnected the 500Gb due to critical data, I've only got the 320's in Ports 1 & 2. Setup Stripe raid in Bios. I cannot succesfully install Windows Vista or XP to the raid, Vista install remains stuck @ the decompressing files window. XP loads until it's about to boot the OS for the first time then Bsods. Using latest Floppy Raid Drivers too. Has anyone with this board got a Raid with OS installed? Am i missing something here? what am I doing wrong?
    I'm still Testing, gonna pull out my Aged and beloved Hitachi 80Gb Sata1 Drive from the dead, install OS and then get this baby to work in Raid as I want it to, Hopefully......
    Will report back..

    The RAID implementation on this board is really obnoxious, if you have installed windows (XP/VISTA) prior to enabling RAID in the motherboard bios, windows will keep restarting itself at the windows load screen. Not an OS problem but the way the RAID controllers work on this motherboard.
    My raid setup:
    1 X WD 500GB BLUE (System C:\)(Single Stripe)(HAS TO BE IN IT'S OWN ARRAY IN MEDIASHIELD ROM for windows to work if RAID IS ENABLED)
    2 X WD 320GB BLUE (Raid 0)(Stripe)
    1 X LG Optical Drive (Also shows up in Mediashield post screen when Raid controller is ensbled)
    Make sure to back up all data before setting up an array, setting up a array on a single HDD and selecting NOT to delete the MBR should keep your data intact. Booting up the system with the previous installation not deleted but now with the system HDD in it's own array you will continue to get BSOD and auto reboots.
    V3.3 Bios Settings:
    1) Set 'RAID MODE' to 'RAID" within the Integrated Peripherals Menu.
    2)Enable 'RAID' in the Sub-Menu "ON-CHIP ATA DEVICES" --> RIAD MODE set to RAID then enable the ports you want Raid enabled on. SATA 1.2.3.4 are NV raid 5.6 are JMICRON. I have have ports 1,2,3 & 4 enabled as all 4 of my drives are connected to those ports. Optical drives will automatically show up in Mediashield ROM post screen even if port is disabled, and once windows is reinstalled other HDD'S can be connected without having to enable raid or arrays and all will be seen as normal.
    Now to install windows, had an issue with the Floppy raid drivers from MSI site so I used the MCP78 floppy from gigabyte
    http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Motherboard/Driver_Model.aspx?ProductID=2819. Windows working and Raid 0 on 2X 320GB HDD. Once windows is installed to a single disk in this manner windows will work fine with sata raid disabled (deleting array in mediashield will delete MBR) and in IDE mode as but when raid is re-enabled it will detect the disk and work fine too. Another issue unresolved is that I couldn't successfully install to the Raid 0-2X WD 320gb blue stripe, anybody got windows installed successfully to a Raid 0-2X hdd stripe? Note, If installing to Jmicron you will need JM drivers.
    Another issue I have since using Raid is that S3 mode is not working well at all. S3 is enabled in Bios power management and definitely worked previously when raid was disabled. Now I cannot get S3 suspend. When i choose sleep it goes into Hibernation, checked all vista settings in power management and it should go to sleep not hibernate. Any Help? When it comes out of sleep all the lights are red and I have to power it down, turn power supply off/on then post-> 'windows resuming' then only does it come out of hibernation, strange... Whether I choose sleep or hibernate this is what I'm getting. Using Vista 32, Nvidia driver version 15.24, display driver version 180.48. Jmicron drivers installed as well.
    Components:
    Enermax Pro82+ 525W
    MSI K9N2 SLi Platinum
    AMD 5400+ Black Edition
    2x2Gb SUPER*TALENT DDRII 800Mhz CL4
    2x1Gb SUPER*TALENT DDRII 800Mhz CL4
    MSI 8800GT OC 512mb
    1 X WD Blue 500Gb Sata2
    2 x WD Blue 320GB Sata2 (NEW SET)
    1 X LG Dvd-Rw 
    Hope this helps & thanks in advance.

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