K9N2 Sli Platinum - won't boot? Can't figure out problem.

Hey guys. My computer practically crapped itself the other day, and there were so many symptoms I'm not quite sure
what to even search for.
I've had this computer for about a year now. no problems since the day i built it.
specs:
Msi K9n2 Sli Platinum mobo
AMD Athlon 64x2 3.2 Ghz
2x BFG Nvidia Geforce 9800 GTX+
2x Cosair xms2 2gb ddr2
1000 watt BFG EX Series
Sony DvD drive
1tb western digital drive
So i was playing SC2 and my computer froze. So i restarted and it hung during windows loading.
I turned it off waited a few seconds and started... still hung. Cycled it and tried a couple more times.
Still nothing. Naturally i assumed it was a virus so i repaired my windows installation. After it finished it hung on
Windows has finished repairing your computer will now restart. I waited about an hour and decided to just restart
myself. Next time it booted asked me if i wanted to boot from cd and then it just shutdown like i pulled the plug.
Then i thought well i ruined my windows install. I tried booting again it did the same thing. So i just said screw it
ill reformat. But this time there was no signal from my graphics card. When i turn the computer on it will normally
be loud and then get quiet after everything has booted. But now it just turns on and stays loud because i suspect
it's still booting. So i took everything apart. Tried connecting and unconnecting everything. moving ram etc...
Ive got it to boot twice but after that it crashes before windows loads like a plug pull and it wont boot again.
I cant tell whats wrong it could be everything but nothing makes sense. I've built about 7 or 8 computers.
gotten rid of several viruses and bad hardware but I've never seen anything like this.
I tried checking the LED codes for the board. Leds 11 and 10 and 9 and 8 alternate red and green which means HDD and floppy drive are trying to boot.
but it does that even when my harddrive is not connected and it still wont show video. Ive even rotated the graphics cards and tried a 7900gs. nothing.
Edit: now led 6 and 7 are red.
please help me out. Thanks.

Yeah the case i have is the antec 1200. Never had a problem with heat before.
Ive tried it with just the ram and the cpu and it still gives me the lights so i
guess it must be the mobo or processor. I don't have another motherboard to test everything else on
all my other pcs are 5 to 7 years old.
I was thinking about keeping all my old parts and buying these as replacements:
MSI NF980-G65 AM3 NVIDIA nForce 980a SLI HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 140W Quad-Core Processor
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL

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    # GeForce 8500GT
    # 1x Seagate 500GB Sata
    # 1x Maxtor 60GB ATA 133
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    AMD Phenom 9500 2.2GHz Quad Core HT 3.0
    500Gb Seagate Sata HD 7200rpm
    2x XFX GeForce 9600 GSO 768MB Graphic Cards
    4x 2Gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2
    LiteOn Blu-Ray Drive
    Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope OS
    ULTRA LSP 650W PSU 38Amps +12Volts
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    Well, look like my problem may have been solved. Fredrik got me wondering too whether one of the RAM might be faulty. I cycled my Ram sticks by installing them into the motherboard one at a time then rebooting. The third stick that i put wont POST but all the other three does. So i installed all three good sticks back and the computer booted just find. Also, I found out how to change the Voltage in the BIOS by simply pressing + or - keys (perhaps would have helped if I read the BIOS help file earlier DUH...). As suggested by Bas, (and for insurance, just in case stick need more juice) I set the voltage to 2.05v although sticks runs find at default of 1.95v (BIOS voltage setting has a MIN = 1.95v MAX = 2.40v). Its in the safe setting range so hopefully they dont overheat. Apart from the voltage and the 2T, All others are put back to AUTO.
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    CHEERS and God Bless.

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    thank youall for helping with that problem, now i feel stupid for not noticing that should b eplugged in!...
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  • K9N2 Sli Platinum + SSD OCZ Vertex 3 = Slow Speed Problem [PARTIALLY SOLVED]

    Hey folks,
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    First my pc specs:
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    - 6 SATAII ports by nForce 750a SLI
    - 2 ESATA (External-SATA) ports (back panel) by JMB363
    - Supports storage and data transfers at up to 3 Gb/s
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    LG Internal BlueRay BH10LS30
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
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    1)
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    http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/7549/cdmpe115hahcirand.png
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    http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/505/cdmahci0x0.png
    http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/6258/cdmahci0x0sata6contnv64.png
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    Hi
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    Hello!
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