K9NGM: memory tweaking options? Compatibility?

I have recently assembled a SFF pc with a MSI K9NGM motherboard.  It works perfect but the BIOS is so basic that there are even no memory tweaking options.  It seems that no matter which ram I use, the same default timings are selected (5,6,5,15,2T).  The problem is that when you buy high end pc6400 ram(800mhz ddr2) ram you manually have to adjust ram timings and speed in the bios, which in this case is impossible.  So if you buy expensive high end pc6400 or just value pc5300 ram they will run at the same speed on this mobo.
My question is will there be a bios update that will allow some memory tweaking in the “advanced chipset features” menu? (like the K8NGM)
What with 2 different memory modules (with different timings, speed)?  Will they cause compatibility issues in dual channel with this motherboard?  Or will the Bios automatically assign the slower speed of the two?

Quote from: Ames on 11-November-06, 06:41:07
Or will the Bios automatically assign the slower speed of the two?
yes.
also, if it works, don't break it. that mobo is not intended for high-end, and i find it strange that you would shell a lot of money for the high end ram. but if you still want to tweak it, you can use clockgen.

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