K9NU RAID setup

I'm trying to install XP Pro x64 on a newly formed RAID 0 array, but XP setup isn't seeing my array.
I've turned on RAID for the SATA drives (2x 200GB WD Caviar).
I've setup RAID 0 array through ctrl+A during POST (subsequent reboots show 400GB up and healthy).
During XP setup, I've hit F6 to install SATA drivers with prepared floppy (more on that in a minute).
After I accept the EULA, I'm given a choice of partitions to install XP on, none of which are my new RAID array.
   - my only options are my x32 OS & program partitions that are keeping me connected through this process (I re-installed an old WD 120 GB PATA drive for this)
I've tried disconnecting the PATA drive during one of the install attempts, and there's been no drives at all available.
I've tried setting the RAID array as the first boot device in the BIOS... no dice.
I think my problem is the driver floppy.
I don't have the original disc that came with the board, so I've been trying different sources for the files:
 - manually choose from the board drivers page on MSI site (Uli_SATA-RAID_AP003.zip)
 - original install CD that came with the MoBo
 - nVidia site (Uli_Integrated220.zip) although this is an .exe and not useful at all
I've figured out that I need the M1697 driver on the floppy as well (m5288.sys, found it on the orig CD), but I cant figure out how to have it there with the m5287.sys.
During the F6 install of the RAID drivers, only the m5287 is installing.
If I have both m5288 & m5287 in the same folder (xp_64), only the m5287 installs.
If I try to have both uli>floppy folder structures copy on to the same floppy, there's not enough room (and I'm asked to over-write files).
If I try to use two separate floppys (one with m5287, one with m5288, and their associated files and folders), I get a notification that m5287 isn't on the (m5288) disc.
The options I'm given during the F6 driver install are all just OS choices (xp_32, xp_64, etc).  I'm choosing the x64 option, but there's no further option for individual .sys files, as all the walkthroughs specify.
Is there anyone out there who can give me a detailed breakdown of the directory/folder/file tree from the install floppy?  I could work with an .iso of the floppy also (if that's even possible with floppys).
Thanks
All the hair on my head is gone, I'm starting to pull it from much more painful areas

Here's what I've learned/gathered... for posterity.
Pardon the length of this post, but I want to be as detailed as possible in case anyone else comes along with the same issue.
Feel free to skip to the credits at the end...
The Basics:
The two drivers that Windows installation is looking for at the F6 screen (for the K9NU Neo-V board, at least), are for M1575 & M1697 (southbridge & northbridge, respectively) chipsets.  Both are necessary for proper SATA function during Win install, and are covered by the M5287.sys & M5288.sys files, respectively.  These must be on the F6 floppy disc if there is to be any hope of Win install seeing drives in a RAID array.  Also on the disc is M5289.sys, which Uli describes as a RAID driver.
When the floppy is inserted after F6 screen, options for the desired OS version (2000, XP, Server, x64, etc) are given, and after a choice is made the drivers are loaded.  From my experience with this process, (if the floppy is configured right), both are loaded at once, without having to select them individually.  I mention this because all the online tutorials for this process indicate that you must repeat the hit "s" key/insert floppy routine for the second (M5288.sys) driver.  In any case, once you have loaded the driver, Win install will tell you what it has loaded for use.  If both M1575 and M1687 are not mentioned (either in the same line, or as two), installation of drivers has not been completed and Win won't install correctly on RAID!  In fact, without the M1697 driver (at least), Win won't even "see" your SATA drives (if RAID is enabled in BIOS).
Continuing on to install Windows, and after accepting the EULA, install finds the drives on the system an you choose the target drive (in RAID 0, this is the size of both drives in the array combined; 200GB + 200GB = 400GB, or thereabouts; 372.62MB in my case).
Voila... Done.  Follow the yellow brick promts.
My issues (as I see them):
My first problem was that misplaced the RAID install floppy that came with the board.  (Just as likely, if not likelier, is that my board didn't come with one.  The MSI site mentions that its inclusion was optional.  Given that my current floppy disc collection contains one for a CAD program that I've had since my days with an IBM 386, I'm inclined to believe this was the case.  But whatever; no harm, no foul)  Regardless, much heartache could have been avoided if I had the original floppy!
My second problem was in my confusion over the process for making a new one.  I had the original install CD for the MoBo, so I had all the files I needed, but the makedisk.txt instructions in the floppy folder were clear as mud (in hindsight I ended up following them, but there was no clarification about over-writing folders, which would have been very helpful).  I think my original fault when making the floppy was to copy the folders in the reverse order ie, M1687>FLOPPY instead of FLOPPY>M1697.  Someone with more knowledge about the specifics can correct me, but I think the way the files over-write makes this order relevant.  In any case, the way I originally copied the files gave me a problem in the F6 install, namely the M5288.sys (northbridge chipset driver) wasn't loading into Win install.  The result:  my SATA drives were invisible, only the IDE drive on my system was there (since it had my working WinXP x32 OS on it, I was hesitant to install there, lest I have to communicate with this forum via iPhone).
Note to Svet:  The file you posted for me to make my floppy from, despite containing M5287.sys/M5288.sys/M5289.sys, only loaded M5287.sys in the F6 screen.  This may have been a problem on my end, but I managed to duplicate it by extracting the M5287 folder from the nVidia.com>download drivers>Uli>Integrated220.zip referenced in above post.  I think either the ulisata.cat, disk1, or txtsetup.oem files didn't contain the necessary directions for install to utilize M5288.sys, but I'm not a coder, so I can't say for certain.
At no point (even with the proper floppy configuration) did the F6 screen appear to load M5289.sys, so I made a separate floppy with just that (from the files in nVidia.com>download drivers>Uli>Integrated220.zip), that loaded successfully as a second instance of hit "s"/insert floppy, and showed a second line below "M1575/M1697 INSTALLED", reading "RAID DRIVER INSTALLED" (or similar).  Whether this was a needed operation I don't know, since there was no more mention of it from Win install.  It did, however prompt me to re-insert the disk with M5288.sys on it.
My final problem, to which I have no understanding of why, but is fixed so I don't care.  Maybe someone else will.
Once I finally had a floppy disk with drivers that would "see" my SATA drives (including a 500GB data drive), I had the option of installing onto an unallocated space.  Great, except that the size was about 1.1TB!  I don't know how Windows came up with 200 + 200 = 1100, but there you have it.  I tried to install there, as there were no ~375GB spaces in view, and I was exuberant at just being able to recognize the drives that Win install had been hiding.  Each attempt to install onto this phantom TB of unallocated space resulted in an error that Win could not write onto a SCSI drive, and that I should turn it off.  (This is what sent me on my hunt for the "missing" M5289.sys that was present in the floppy disks, yet not installing through F6).
Still no luck until I went into Disk Management in Windows (on the functioning IDE drive) and saw that it did see the RAID array as a single volume, but that it was at 1.1TB, unformatted, and uninitialized.
Back to the BIOS, delete the RAID 0 array, rebuild it (all through CTRL+A), Windows sees it as a proper 372GB volume, initialize it, format it (probably didn't need to do this, but better than having to log back into Win x32 if I'm wrong), then back to try the XP Pro install again.
Both M1575 & M1697 drivers load fine, I throw in the second floppy with M8289.sys on it just to make sure, and I'm blessed with a 372GB RAID 0 array to install onto.  Onward to Oz.
Because, because, because, because, becaaaaause...
Because of the wonderful things he does!
Thanks to Svet, Fredrik, Wonkanoby, Stu, and anyone else who's had input or helped me through this mess.
It's a sure thing my next MoBo will be MSI, so I may stop back and say Hi.
Peace

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    On-Board Raid Setup MSI 865PE/875P
    Revision History
    Revision 1.0 (January 2004)
    -   Original Raid Article
    Revision 1.01 (February 2004)
    -   Reformatted text and fixed spelling/grammar
    Revision 1.02 (October 2004)
    -   Added warnings to temporarily disconnect ALL drives including Zip drives during formatting Raid drives for WinXP.
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    Description of Tests
    Pre-Raid Setup Bios Tweaks
    Raid Setup On Promise Controller
    Raid Setup On Intel Controller
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    This guide is intended to help people configure their Bios and setup Windows for Raid using the Intel ICH5R controller  and the Promise FastTrak 378 controller. Although all the tests were done using Raid-0 the methods described should be virtually identical to setting up Raid-1 provided the user is aware of the fundamental differences between the two. It should be useful for anyone with an MSI 865PE/875P chipset on motherboards with LSR and FIS2R suffixes. Before continuing, please read the FAQ thread posted by Maesus and the Raid manual(s) that came with your motherboard. There's also some good info regarding Raid Here and Here and Here
    Keep in mind this guide is intended as a reference to help you. It is not a manual. I do not work for MSI and my equipment and time are limited. You will have different equipment and different versions of software.
    All the data below is based on tests that I ran and I tried to avoid using any theory that I did not test. If you feel I’ve missed something obvious or if you have something you feel should be added to make this guide clearer or simpler, please PM me with your thoughts. If you have a specific problem that this guide does not help you with, post a detailed thread in the forum on the main page.
    Equipment List For Tests
    MSI 875P FIS2R Motherboard
    Bios 1.8
    Enermax EG365P-VE (350w)  PSU
    P4 2.6c CPU
    Kingston KHX-3200A2 2x512MB Memory
    Radeon 9800Pro AIW Video Card
    WD 400JB 40GB/8MB cache IDE Hdd
    2-Seagate 80GB 7200.7 SATA Hdd's
    Liteon 52x32x52 CDRW
    Floppy Drive
    Tests
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    Configure 2 SATA on Promise controller(serial3&4) as Raid0 and add Raid to an existing WindowsXP installation on IDE drive(IDE1)
    Configure 2 SATA on Intel Raid controller(serial1&2) as Raid0 and install WindowsXP Home SP1a on Raid
    Configure 2 SATA on Intel Raid controller(serial1&2) as Raid0 and add Raid to an existing WindowsXP installation on IDE drive(IDE1)
    Configure 1 SATA on Intel Raid controller(serial1) and install WindowsXP Home SP1a on it. Then add 2nd SATA on Intel Raid controller(serial2) and migrate to Raid0 using Intel Application Accelerator-Raid edition.
    IDE drive used in these tests was pre-installed with a fresh copy of WinXP Home SP1a using default settings and the following drivers all from MSI setup CD and Raid Floppy Disks that came with motherboard:
    Intel INF files - version 1002
    Gigabit Lan drivers - 7.0.37.0
    SoundMax drivers - 5.12.1.3538
    Catalyst 3.7 & Multimedia Center drivers from standard ATI CD came with video card.
    Pre-Raid BIOS Tweaks
    Before I continue, I'd like to point out a few changes from the defaults that I alway make to Bios before I attempt a WinXP install or hardware change. I can't guarantee that they all apply to you but none should make things worse. If anything differs from a setting that you feel is fixing another problem you're having, by all means leave at your prefferred setting. Anything related to performance and overclocking can be raised again AFTER the Raid is all setup and everything is running smoothly.
    Standard Cmos Features
    The only thing I change here is to enable "32bit transfer mode" whenever I connect new devices to the Intel IDE controller.
    Note: Devices attached to the Promise controller and the Intel Raid(when it is enabled) will NOT appear in the standard Cmos page
    Advanced Bios Features
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    APIC ACPI SCI IRQ - Enabled
    Boot Device select is also on this page and you'll be changing it after all the hardware is setup; more later.
    Advanced Cipset Features
    Confirm that the memory timing "by SPD" is enabled
    PNP/PCI Configurations
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    PCI/IDE Busmaster set to "enabled" to speed things up outside of Windows.
    Integrated Peripherals (Before Raid for most flexibilty)
    Onboard Promise IDE - Disabled if you have nothing attached to IDE3 and Serial 3&4
    ON-Chip IDE Configuration:
    Native Mode (Supported by WinXP- Allows all devices connected to IDE 1&2 and Serial 1&2 to be detected)
    SATA Only or PATA Only (select the one that you boot XP with)
    Keep SATA Active - Yes (if option available)
    Keep PATA Active - Yes (if option available)
    PATA Channel selection - Both (if option available)
    Configure SATA as Raid - No (if option available)
    Leave other settings here at default
    Note: Some older Bios versions may appear different than above
    Frequency/Voltage Control
    Dynamic Overclocking - Disabled
    Performance Mode - Slow
    Dram Frequency - Auto
    Adjust CPU Bus - 201 (for "c" type cpu's)
    DDR Voltage - 2.65 (minimum for Dual-Channel Mem stability)
    AGP Voltage - 1.55
    Note: some features above may not appear with your Bios
    Note: performance & overclocking features can be increased again AFTER the Raid array has been setup and is stable with Windows.
    Raid On Promise Controller
       This procedure should work for anyone adding a Raid array to a system already having XP installed on another drive on the Intel controller or intending to install Windows XP on the new Raid array.
    Note: IDE 3 and Serial 3&4 connectors are controlled by the Promise controller.
    Note: It is possible to setup Raid arrays using 2 IDE drives on IDE3 or even 2 SATA & 2 IDE drives. I only tested 2 SATA drives on Serial 3&4 connectors.
    Note: It is possible to setup Raid 0+1 using 2 IDE drives on IDE3 and 2 SATA drives on Serial 3&4. See HERE for a related thread.
    Note: It is possible to setup SATA or IDE drives on the Promise controller as separate drives NOT using Raid but I did not test this. See your manual.
    - Attach the SATA drives to Serial 3&4 connectors and ensure that both power and data cables are securely connected. Most SATA drives do NOT need any changes to default jumper positions if any(check Hdd installation instructions).
    - Boot into Bios
    Integrated Peripherals:
    Set Onboard Promise IDE  - As Raid
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    - Use control-F keys during the boot(when prompted-goes by quickly) to enter the Promise Raid Bios.
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    - Use the menus to configure the Raid for your preferences.
    Note: I can't say which settings you should use for creating the Raid. It depends on many things. Do some research.
    - After saving the Raid array, reboot to Bios.(you should see the configured array for a second or two during the post and it should be "functional")
    - In Advanced bios Features>>Boot Device Select:
    Set the order you prefer to boot from
    - If you already have XP installed on another drive and are just adding the Raid for an extra drive, Ensure that the list is still appropriate and includes your XP drive.
    - If you will be installing XP on the new Raid, make sure the new Raid array is in the boot list and any other hard drives are NOT.
    Note: Typically, I put the disk with XP first and use F11 key during post to boot from another device. This is not required though.
    - Save bios
    Important!: If you are installing XP on the new Raid array, you should now shutdown and either disconnect or disable any other drives connected until AFTER XP is installed. This includes USB/Zip drives.(See "Bugs" below).
    If Installing XP On The New Raid Array(others skip to below):
    - Boot from the Windows XP Setup CD and use F6 key when prompted(at the beginning).
    - Follow prompts to load the WinXP Promise FastTrack 376/378 Controller from the floppy that came with motherboard(If Required Download Floppy Here). There are a number of different choices on the floppy. PICK THE RIGHT ONE.
    Note: if using Win2K with the floppy, you can scroll down to get more driver options on this screen. It's not readily apparent on the screen.
    - Continue setup and Windows should now show you the new Raid array as a single drive available to install to. If it shows other drives that you have connected, re-read the "important" note above and the related section on "Bugs" below.
    - When XP setup makes its first re-boot, make sure the floppy has been removed or depending on your settings it may give you a scary moment. Yes I did this(tries to boot from floppy).
    - After XP is up and running, you can re-connect/re-enable any drives you disconnected earlier. If they have been formatted, they should show up immediately and be assigned letters after your CD/DVD drives.
    - You can also install the Promise Array Manager software(from MSI CD utilities tab or download) which adds some array management settings.
    If XP Already Installed On Another Drive(and you're just adding the Raid as an extra storage disk):
    - Boot into WindowsXP.
    - As Windows starts, it should detect a new Raid device and offer to install drivers.   
    - Select Cancel. It will tell you that it was unable to install new device. If you want you can confirm the new device is present by checking Windows device Manager. It should show the new device with a yellow exclamation mark beside it since the drivers aren't installed yet.
    - Download the appropriate drivers or use the MSI CD that came with motherboard.
    Note: The MSI CD detects devices connected and shows available drivers/utilities depending on what it sees. You might not have seen the Promise drivers when using the CD before but now that you have a Raid array connected to it, the drivers will be availble from the MSI setup CD.
    - Install the drivers and re-boot
    - Device Manager should now show the Raid properly identified by XP.
    - If the Raid array was not previously formatted, you can now use Windows Disk Manager (Start > Run and type diskmgmt.msc) to Initialize and then format the Raid array.
    - The Raid array should now show in Windows Explorer with it's own drive letter.
    Bugs/Surprises
    - Trying to install WinXP on the Promise Raid while my IDE drive was connected to the Intel IDE connector resulted in Windows installing boot files to the IDE drive and the rest on the Raid drives. This was especially bad since I had another installation of XP on the IDE drive which was overwritten. The work-around was to disable the IDE drive until AFTER XP was setup on the Raid array.
    Update: There have been a few posts on the forum since I wrote this guide where people installing XP have had problems similar to the one above with USB/Zip drives connected so i am adding them to the list of drives to disconnect while installing XP.
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    - Be gentle with SATA connectors on the motherboard. They can stand firm downward pressure but not a lot of side-to-side pressure.
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    This procedure should work for anyone adding 2 SATA hard drives for a Raid array on a system already having XP installed on another drive or intending to install XP on the new Raid array.
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    Note: There is no performance advantage to having a single drive with Raid enabled. But doing so makes the disk Raid-ready and XP reinstall unnecessary.
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    SATA Only (Even if you will be booting XP from a PATA drive)
    Keep PATA Active - Yes
    PATA Channel selection - Both
    Configure SATA as Raid - Yes
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    - Use control-I keys during post(when prompted-goes by quickly) to enter the Intel Raid Bios Utility.
    Note: If you are using the single SATA Raid-Ready Method, you can skip the steps involving the Intel Raid utility. Go to the step for setting Boot device select in main Bios.
    Note: You will only be able to enter the Intel Raid Bios if you have set the "Configure SATA as Raid" option to "YES"  AND there are devices connected and detected by the Intel Raid Bios.
    - Use the menus to configure the Raid for your preferences.
    Note: I can't say which settings you should use for creating the Raid. It depends on many things. The Intel utility does describe the different options well though.
    - After saving the Raid array, reboot to Bios.(you should see the configured array for a second or two during the post and it should be "functional")
    - In Advanced bios Features>>Boot Device Select:
    Set the order you prefer to boot from;
    If you already have XP installed on another drive and are just adding the Raid for an extra drive, Ensure that the list is still appropriate and includes your XP drive.
    If you will be installing XP on the new Raid or using Raid-Ready Method, make sure the new Raid array or raid-ready drive is in the boot list and any other hard drives are NOT.
    Note: Typically, I put the disk with XP first and use F11 key during post to boot from another device. This is not required though.
    - Save bios
    Important!: If you are installing XP on the new Raid array or using the Raid-Ready Method, you should now shutdown and either disconnect or disable any other hard drives connected until AFTER XP is installed. This includes Zip/USB drives. (See "Bugs" below).
    If Installing XP On The New Raid Array Or Using Raid-Ready Method(others skip to below):
    - Boot from the Windows XP Setup CD and use F6 key when prompted(at the beginning).
    - Follow prompts to load the IAA Raid Driver for ICH5R (If Required Download Floppy Here) from the floppy that came with motherboard.  I only had 1 driver to choose from on my floppy but if you have more, CHOOSE THE RIGHT ONE!
    - Continue and Windows Setup should now show you the new Raid array or Raid Ready drive as a single drive available to install to. If it shows other drives that you have connected, re-read the "important" note above and the related section on "Bugs" below.
    - When XP setup makes its first re-boot, make sure the floppy has been removed or depending on your settings it may give you a scary moment. Yes I did this(tries to boot from floppy).
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    - You can also install the Intel IAA-Raid Program(from MSI CD utilities tab or download) which gives some info and adds the array management settings(Not many. Just the enable/disable cache setting and the migrate to raid option).
    If XP Already Installed On Another Drive(and you're just adding the Raid as an extra storage disk):
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    - As Windows starts, it should detect a new Raid device and offer to install drivers. Select Cancel. It will tell you that it was unable to install new device. If you want you can confirm the new device is present by checking Windows device Manager. It should show the new device with a yellow exclamation mark beside it since the drivers aren't installed yet.
    - Download the appropriate drivers or use the MSI CD that came with motherboard.
    Note: The MSI CD detects devices connected and shows available drivers/utilities depending on what it sees. You might not have seen the IAA Raid drivers when using the CD before but now that you have a Raid array connected to it, the drivers will be availble from the MSI setup CD.
    - Install the drivers and re-boot
    Note: If the IAA Raid program detects that the Raid controller is not enabled or no device is present, it will NOT allow you to install the drivers/utility.
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    - Be gentle with SATA connectors on the motherboard. They can stand firm downward pressure but not a lot of side-to-side pressure.
    Migrating XP System Disk To Raid On Raid-Ready System
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    This procedure is actually very well documented in the last part of the Intel SATA Raid manual that ships with the motherboard but I thought I’d add it to make this thread more complete.
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    Note: I tested this by migrating to a Raid0 array but Raid1 should work also if the latest Bios and version of Intel-Raid application used.
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    Note: Any complex disk procedure such as this carries the risk of losing data. A backup of the disk is important BEFORE beginning the migration process. Don't say I didn't warn you.
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