Keep keyboard layout at login

Hi,
after upgrade my iMac to Mavericks I'm unable to keep the right keyboard layout at login,
at every restart or logout I need to pick up my preferred layout, even if I try to remove the default one.
The default layout set at boot is "Italian Typewriter" but I need the "Italian" layout, how can I do?
regards

See this support article.
In some cases, it may be necessary to reset your computer’s PRAM.

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Different keyboard layout at login

hi,
i transferred my old (french, azerty..) ibook to my new (english, qwerty..) macbook pro with migration assistant, and i now use the UK keyboard layout.
but when i log in, the layout is the french one, which makes it pretty tricky typing in the password since i can't see what i'm typing (the letters and numbers i'm clicking aren't the ones that are actually entered..)
i guess the assistant automatically set the french layout as a default one, but of course while logging in i can't access the "international" section..
any idea how i can set my keyboard to be in english ALL the time?
thanks

are you talking about the layout at the login window? You can change it. once you've logged in go to system preferences->accounts->login options and check the box to show input menu at the login window. you'll now be able to switch layouts at the login window.

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A solution was found copying the files from 10.5 to 10.6, but there were no details offered and I can't find the files:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=10410235&tstart=0
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Windows 8.1 is driving me nuts beyond believe once again. I have 8.1 Pro update 1 English, installed from the VLK iso from our Volume License / SPLA account. As we are a Dutch company, the Location is set to The Netherlands, as well as the date/time format.
Therefore in my keyboard settings the language is Dutch (NL) but I set my keyboard layout to US, as below:
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is producing wrong characters again.
I've tried with regvalue HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout\IgnoreRemoteKeyboardLayout set to 1, to no avail at all. It just keeps changing. This should help to prevent my keyboard when changing when I RDP to one of my servers.
The advanced settings in Language don't help either:
'let me set a different input language for each app window' is unticked.
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This might be really late to this post but I've been having this issue while playing games, particularly those which are complex enough to require Control, Alt, Shift. At first like some people here suggested
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This post pointed me in the right direction, go into your Language Options
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[Solved] Can't login with current keyboard layout and `@` in password

Hi, I'm a new arch user. I followed archwiki to install Enlightenment17. All went fine but I have a problem to login since during setup I inserted '@' in root/regular user passwords. During setup I selected the Italian layout and all seems ok, except grafical login through entrance (from aur, but I tested also kdm, with same results): password not recognized. Before asking, is not a CAPS/NUMLOCK issue since the password works using it in console login. I discovered that I can type '@' with the following combination: SHIFT+2; in an italian keybord this should print a double quote (") but in entrance (and kdm) it correponds to '@'. After login this way, the keyboard works normally (for instance using 'su'). So the problem is limited to graphical login (entrance and kdm) during which a different keyboard layout is used.
Did I miss some config file?
For the sake of clarity:
1) /etc/locale.gen has "it_IT.UTF-8 UTF-8" uncommented
2) /etc/locale.conf contains "LANG=it_IT.UTF-8"
3) /etc/vconsole.conf contains "KEYMAP=it"
4)
$ locale
LANG=it_IT.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE="it_IT.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="it_IT.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="it_IT.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="it_IT.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="it_IT.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="it_IT.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="it_IT.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="it_IT.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="it_IT.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="it_IT.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="it_IT.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="it_IT.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=
Thanks for any help.
Last edited by bull3t (2013-03-03 14:10:15)

cfr wrote:Have you tried specifying a variant?
I exclude a variant problem considering that in any other condition the keyboard layout is right. The system is configured for an it KEYMAP but it is obvious that in entrance/kdm is used an 'us' map. Is this hardcoded somewhere? I also tryed to comment out any entry in /etc/locale.gen except 'it_IT.UTF-8 UTF-8': still 'us' keymap in graphical login screen.
Probably a kind user with a non-us keyborad layout could create a dummy user with password containing '@' or '#' or any other special symbol to verify that this condition is reproducible, a first step for a bug report.
Cheers

Change Keyboard Layout, But Keep Language

I have a MacBook with USA keyboard layout.
While installing, by mistake i selected Latin American keyboard.
Now, i want my language to still be "Spanish/Argentina", but they keyboard layout should be USA.
How can i do that? Note that I don't want to have many input keyboards and then have to switch between latin and english language.

I don't see an option to change "keyboard layout" only.
Do you really not see the Tab called Input Menu under system preferences/international? There are boxes to check for keyboard layouts, and one is called US.
Another Tab is called Language, and there you can put Spanish (actually Español) at the top to keep your OS in Spanish.
Another Tab, in the middle, is called Formats.
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Keeping per window keyboard layout under X11

Sometimes you want to setup switching keyboard layouts using only X server - because there is no DE, or no DE keyboard plugin, or it's broken, or lacks needed functionality. You can easily configure X server to switch keyboard layouts, but I could not find way of keeping layout for each window separately using only X server. Hence this package: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=54504
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Login keyboard layout messed up?

Spanish keyboard.
Language set to Spanish LA
I've set up a password for my account (the only account on this macbook) which includes an @ and an !. I know my password perfectly fine, and after setting it I've used it to wake up my macbook from sleep, so it works and I know exactly what password is.
SO after a while, I decide to actually turn off my computer instead of just closing the lid and letting it sleep. Big mistake.
Now I CANNOT login. It says "wrong password" everytime I write it. I had this same issue on Snow Leopard, where the @ was SHIFT+2 instead of ALT+2 JUST on the login screen, everywhere else (including the password prompt after waking up the macbook) was the normal ALT+2. But on snow leopard this does not seem to be the issue. I cannot change the keyboard layout from the login screen, cannot reset password from the DISC (at least couldn't find how to) and I just cannot login. I have a lot of files already, and quite a few apps I really wish I did not have to set up again.
Any ideas what I may be able to do? How do you (US people) normally type a ! and an @ ??

EnriqueRamirez wrote:
How do you (US people) normally type a ! and an @ ??
If your keyboard layout has been set to US for login, then ! is at Shift + 1 and @ is at Shift +2.
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jova.ce wrote:
Could you please show me through the keyboard viewer function, the Italian layout on a US keyboard? Many thanx for your help.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2841
If there are some characters you still cannot make, tell us what they are.
When you have access, go to system prefs/users & groups/login options and check the box for Show Input Menu at Login Page.

Losing extra keyboard layouts on reboot

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Hello,
A few months ago I installed Arch + Gnome 2.26 and never had problems since then until I upgraded to Gnome 2.28. Now with the rewritten GDM the keyboard layout (for entering the username because I don't like select-your-user-from-the-list-thingies) is set to USA (qwerty) while the rest of my system is completely BE (standard, no variant) layout. Before the upgrade also GDM was 100% BE, but now the username is USA and when I want to enter the password it changes immediately to BE (because in the panel down I chose BE). Is there a way to also make the username respond to the BE layout?
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TTY's
password prompt of GDM
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terminals
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killajoe wrote:
/etc/gdm/custom.conf is the file to configure gdm:
http://library.gnome.org/admin/gdm/2.28 … on.html.en
there is no gui but for what we need a gui for that?
That's very interesting, thanks for the link. Sure, it's possible that way, but a few weeks ago there still was a GUI for it and now everything has to be done manually again. That sounds very much like a regression to me Anyway, that's not really the point. GDM documentation pages tell us that the system keyboard layout is used to login and that every user logging in can choose their preferred session. However, our system languages (which are different than USA) are not detected correctly and there is no option to override this in custom.conf.
/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/recent-languages
[] (string list)
Set to a list of languages to be shown by default in the login window. Default value is "[]". With the default setting only the system default language is shown and the option "Other..." which pops-up a dialog box showing a full list of available languages which the user can select.
Users are not intended to change this setting by hand. Instead GDM keeps track of any languages selected in this configuration key, and will show them in the language combo box along with the "Other..." choice. This way, commonly selected languages are easier to select.
/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/recent-layouts
[] (string list)
Set to a list of keyboard layouts to be shown by default in the login panel. Default value is "[]". With the default setting only the system default keyboard layout is shown and the option "Other..." which pops-up a dialog box showing a full list of available keyboard layouts which the user can select.
Users are not intended to change this setting by hand. Instead GDM keeps track of any keyboard layouts selected in this configuration key, and will show them in the keyboard layout combo box along with the "Other..." choice. This way, commonly selected keyboard layouts are easier to select.
Has someone the answer to the questions I asked earlier:
1. Will I still be able to update gdm via pacman -Syu after rebuilding gdm with this patch?
2. And will there come an official Arch GDM update with this patch to solve the problem or is the only way to get it solved dealing with the patch now?
Last edited by ulukai (2009-10-17 15:28:35)

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