Ken Burns and Crops

I intend to edit my 4:3 dv footage in 16:9 most likely at home on FCE or possibly at university on FCP.
Usually, up until this point anyway I've used imovie. I pretty much always go to File > Project Properties> and then set 16:9 (even though I use 4:3 footage). Then I just use the crop and ken burns tools to slide the video up and down at different points to cut any unwanted footage at the top and the bottom of the frames. In this instance I want to crop out unwanted furniture at the bottom of my shot during a wedding service and later to crop out high disco lights at the after party.
Today at university whilst having my first ever play on FCP I noticed the ken burns and crop tools were not as obvious as in imovie 09. Although I did mess with the cropping and key points a little I still have no idea. Most worryingly I couldn't figure out how to set the project up as a 16:9 (I told the bride and groom they would get it in widescreen). I did find the widescreen effect however but its not really what I'm looking for because I want the frame to be able to track up and down at different points along the timeline.
I will explore the program more tomorrow, any tips would be most appreciated.
Thanks
Kev

A myriad of reasons really. Firstly imovie 09 isn't to great at importing dv footage. I've been told iMovie HD 6 is better but then again I have no idea if you can switch a project to 16:9 in it and use it in the same way as 09.
Secondly I needed the smooth cam effect in FCP to sort some shaky bits of footage out.
Thirdly, they have FCP at my university and nobody is ever on the macs there (all on pc's), so the technician gave me free reign on one, my friend also said he would sell me FCE dirt cheap for my home computer (although this development hasn't happened yet).
Is there no way to shift the footage around like you can in imovie with a 16:9 crop

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