Keyboard question fce vs fcp

Hello:
Presently, I'm using FCE. I intend to update to FCP for my next project. My question: Are the keyboard functions the same for FCP as FCE? (my understanding is one can program FCP keyboard functions) Or should I invest in another K&B cover for both my IMac G5 and Macbook Pro?? Thanks in advance,
Russ

Check out the two links on this thread to see the FCP6 and FCE shortcuts:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1973457&tstart=0
Pretty much all of the FCE shortcuts are applicable to FCP, but there are other ones in FCP that don't appear in FCE.

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SHAKE and FCP keyboard question

Hi Forum, I went to creative cow, but thought I'd ask here too.
I've just got SHAKE (and a box-load of tutorials) and I see I'm supposed to use a 3 button mouse. I was thinking of getting the bella keyboard with jog/shuttle FCP shortcuts. Can that Jog/shuttle be used like the mouse? Or is the "mighty mouse" or any other recommendation better? I know a lot of you use SHAKE and your opinions matter before I drop the 180 bucks on the keyboard!
thanks
Mark

Hey there,
While I'm sure the bella is pretty sweet, a mighty mouse will do the job. I have a logitech thumb ball and it works fine. Occasionally I'll use a wacom for roto.
Hope it saves a couple o' bills ^^

Is FCE or FCP the one for me?

Hi,
I'm new to the video editing world, and my main reason for getting into it at all is to prepare DVD demo reels of my film score work. All of my source material is QT movies.
I recently assembled just such a reel using iMovie. Got quite the education in basic techniques of assembling footage, adding titles, transitions, etc. But I also quickly realized that I'm going to need a more "pro" program to do this kind of work more quickly and efficiently (also, once in iMovie, the picture quality went into the toilet for some reason). So I'm considering some version or other of FC.
I'm a music composer first and foremost, and aside from the need to generate promotional materials like my demo reel, I can't make it my life's work to learn a whole new skill. But I do know I need a better tool to dot he job. So I'm looking for advice on what the best program would be for me: FCE or FCP.
I'm going to assume (hopefully correctly) that anything I can do in iMovie can be done in some version of FC. So here's a list of what I'd be looking to achieve from FC. Which is best for me, and, are these things possible?
1. when clips are imported that the picture quality remains identical to the source
2. ability to mix QT clips at different frame rates (24 fps and 29.97)
3. have multiple tracks of video and audio
4. ability to add video clips and lock them to the timeline so that their placement is more or less permanent (unless I decide later to "unlock" them) and, that their position won't be moved or "rippled" when I edit other clips
5. ability to maintain permanent lock between video and audio extracted from the video file (iMovie isn't predictable in this aspect)
6. ability to edit audio with a high degree of precision (see proper waveform displays, maybe even a tempo grid?)
Thanks to anyone who can share their thoughts.
-=iS=-

Hi Ian,
That link was very helpful. Just one more question... from my original post, "when clips are imported [into the program] that the picture quality remains identical to the source", what feature of FC would indicate that characteristic?
(To be more specific, all of my various footage is the output of various well-known animation houses, and is all top notch in appearance even in QT format. But when those QT's are imported into iMovie the appearance becomes grainy, backgrounds become splotchy and pixelated, and edges become aliased...)
Cheers!
-=iS=-

Upgrade FCE to FCP Apple Prores etc

Hi,
I just purchased my first mac a few weeks ago. I was deciding between purchasing FCE and FCP, and ended up buying FCE. None of the specs I read mentioned the 1440x1080 resolution limit on importing AVCHD, nor did I read anywhere that the import codec was limited to a heavily compressed AIC codec rather than ProRes.
I've only had FCE since July 1. Now that I realize that issue, I want to upgrade to FCP, but called an apple store in the area and they said there is no upgrade path from FCE 4 to FC Studio. Is there any way I can do this? I really like the software, but these limitations were not mentioned. It said AVCHD support and when I read about that further, there was no mention of the bad compression and resolution limits. The footage looks about as good as 720x480 DV.
Is there any way that I could upgrade my FCE 4 to FC Studio and make use of the ProRes codec and I hope full 1920x1080 resolution?
Thanks in advance!
Adnan Hussain

Adnan,
I am very interested in your post as a new user of FCE and a AVCHD camera user for awhile now. Can you tell us what your camera records in? Is is 1920 x 1080 i60, something else? Also what is the output you wish to use...SD DVD, Blu-ray DVD, Apple TV or internet.
My experience has been that with AVCHD, and most other formats I suspect, some loss of quality is to be expected during the editing process. Comparing clips from the camera to clips that have been imported to editing software and then exported to some other format is not an apple to apples comparison. ( no pun intended ). How the clips are imported and in particular how they are exported have a huge impact on the final result. The Pro res codec in FCP may offer some higher quality output, but at a much higher price and depending on what you want to view this on......it may not matter. So bottom line, as Ian has responded, in your case switching to FCP may not help.
One final question is how have you tried to export the movie, what was the work flow you used? There might be some settings that you can change to get closer to the results you desire.

Keyboards for FCE

Has anyone had any experience with custom keyboards for FCE? The only two I have seen are from Bella and Locic Keyboard.
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I own a bella advantage serie keyboard for FCP. When I bought it there was not FCE version. I had only to swap 2 keys on numeric keypad to fit the FCE key mapping.
I don't use it really much as color coded keys are fine but letters are too small to use it for text typing.
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Maximum clip speed in FCE and FCP?

I'm currently using iMovie '09, which allows a clip speed increase of up to 2000% (two thousand percent). I'm considering purchasing FCE or FCP but before I do, I'm hoping someone can tell me the maximum clip speed increase. Just FYI, In iMovie '09, the slider stops at 800%, but a value of 2000% can be manually entered. Thanks for any insight.
Jon

JonVdG wrote:
Thanks Al. Just to clarify, that was FC Express (not Pro)?
Yes, Express 4.0.1
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Wanting to run FCE or FCP on iMac 2.4ghz CD2 with 4gig RAM. Enough Power??

Considering what used Mac to buy to run FCE or FCP.
Had considered a Power Mac G5 with 2+ghz dual processors and 2G+ of RAM.
Thinking maybe an iMac with Intel and equivalent power would be better (because of the Intel rather than PowerPC)
Thoughts?
Advice?
Thanks

Al and Martin,
Thanks for your responses. I bought a 2002 Quicksilver, not knowing what I was looking for, and the harddrive crashed immediately (message from God?). I was going to upgrade to a nice G5 but now I think there is no point and am trying to get something with an Intel. At this point, the budget has been reduced to 500 or less. I know there are some iMacs out there for less I just have to find the right one...
I'd like Dual 2hz with at least 2G of RAM. You think 2G is enough? I'll mainly be editing simple projects like DOCS and short narratives. No special effects, etc

Long FCP user considering FCE or FCP on mackbook pro

I've been using FCP on my PowerMacs for years, since version 3. Right now I'm still using FCP 5.1 on my Quad PowerMac G5. I work in broadcast cable and but use my own computer for freelance gigs or personal projects.
I want to buy a new MacBook Pro, and am considering installing the Pro version or having FCE pre-installed.
Is there a side-by-side list of what FCE can't do and FCP can? I consider myself an advanced user of FCP and would be annoyed if I needed to do something on my laptop that FCE just can't do.
Also does anyone know, if I have Apple CAre and FCE is pre-installed and, say, the hard drive dies and must be replaced, they replace it with FCE pre-installed again at no charge? And will Apple Care try to resolve bugs/errors if FCE is pre-installed?

While I agree with Ian, I'd like to mention a couple of features that I expect FCP pro users might miss in FCE: +Media Manager+ and +Log and Capture+ (about other missing features: Render Manager, probably you can do without, source timecode display, time remap, etc. there are some plugins filling the hole..., etc.). Personally I can easily live without them... but I'm not a pro.
Another point: while you can easily migrate a project from FCE to FCP, you cannot do the reverse: you cannot edit an FCP project in FCE. So having FCP on one Mac and FCE on the other doesn't allow you to switch a project back and forth between Macs.
Piero

FCE or FCP?

Hello all,
I'm a complete newbie when it comes to video editing so I wonder why I went and purchased a Canon HV-20 (it's still in the box in case I need/want to return it! LOL)... and an associate at Best Buy told me all I'd need is iMovie HD.
However, there's a class available at a local community college that teaches Final Cut Pro and how to use a camera, etc.
So, I'm thinking about taking the class, but afraid I may be over my head...
I've heard that FCE is very much like FCP so I'm wondering that if I take the class, will I be able to come back on here and use FCE?
Also, it seems an advantage of FCP over FCE is that FCP works with "native" HD while FCE works with AIC (whatever that is!) LOL I read in another forum that native HD will be edited faster than something with AIC? Or is there another advantage of working with native HD over AIC?
Any tips on whether or not I should attempt FCE or FCP or just stick with iMovie HD..would be greatly appreciated.
As I said, I'm quite a newbie and I don't mind reading a manual... I just don't want to get lost within Chapter 1!
Thanks for any help/advice!

Far be it from me to disagree with my fellow Brit Ian, (Eh up, si thi...) I believe you have 2 options.
1) Learn iMovie on your own - As Ian says it's free and an excellent program for one who's new to video editing with a learning curve that's not as steep as FCP/FCE. You could then move up later.
The problem with that is that a complete newbie, you have to learn this on your own (unless you are also privy to iMovie classes) and I believe that it's easier to
2) learn the whole camera/FCP with tuition, than option 1.
My judgement is coloured by the fact that this is how I learned FCP, albeit on a full-time college degree course and I found it the best way but, of course, it's horses for courses. (Incidentally, I also learned iMovie concurrently, but soon decided to focus more on FCP.)
Your decision will be shaped by your requirements - How serious do you anticipate your interest being?
Do you prefer and find it more suitable for you to learn on your own or do you prefer the first hand help of tuition?
Are you prepared to make the additional investment to step up to FCE.
My advice - take the course - get FCE - then upgrade to FCP if and when necessary.

FCP Studio 2 upgrade question (upgrade to FCP Studio 3)

Final Cut license allows a one-time permanent transfer to another party. One of my customers would like to transfer their Final Cut Studio 2 license to me in lieu of payment. I would upgrade to Final Cut Studio 3, but they upgraded from FCP 4 to FCP 5 and can't find their original serial. I've got the FCP 5 (Studio 2) license serial number.
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they upgraded from FCP 4 to FCP 5 and can't find their original serial.
No go. You need the original s/n from a *full price retail version*. Even FCP 1 will do.

FCE and FCP will not recognize LiveType files

I have FCE 3.0, also recently upgraded to FCP 4.5 (I work on both) Also upgraded to QT 7.4 from 7.0. The first time I tried to import a livetype file to either FCE or FCP, they would not recognize the files. They appear in the list of files, but are grayed out. I have livetype 1.2.1
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I notice no one is able to answer this...doesn't anyone have any ideas?
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A few basic questions by a FCP switcher

Hello,
I'm doing the switch. FCP has been my platform for 13 years and (yes, sadly) I decided to leave it. I'm working for TV and channels like National Geographic, so I need power and modern software.
I then have a few questions... and many suggestions. I'll get these written down and post them on the requested features page but first, a few Q that have been bothering me since my start...
1 - /keyboard shortcuts
I'm glad I could choose for the FCP7 shortcut mode. Good point Adobe! Nevertheless,:
-> how can I add a "double-key" shortcut, as "rr" or even, a triple-key one?
-> Shortcuts seems not to be active-window aware. Is there a way to do so? I don't mean totally different shortcuts but for instance the "zoom to sequence" in the TL and the "zoom to source monitor"/"zoom to program monitor" could have the same shortcut, acting appropriately in the respective window... Is that possible?
-> About the "M" for add marker, if in Premiere Pro (default) shortcut mode, it does a good job as in FCP, adding a marker to the Sequence or to the Clip, depending on if a clip is selected or not. Great, but if I set the shortcuts in the FCP7 mode, and add manually the "M" shortcut for "add marker", it doesn't see the difference. Same goes for the "edit marker" that works well in the default mode when on a marker, but not if the FCP mode is chosen... Can someone help on that?
2 - /Audio
-> Volume KFs can't be copied-pasted to another track. Neither via "Paste Attributes" nor via KF copy/Paste. Hey guys, FCP did that already 6 years ago... I hope I don't have to tell about the absolute need to be able to do so (when you've worked out your music under a VO and more and that your EP asks you to use another cue... for instance...). Please can someone tell me how to, or Adobe: make this a priority for the next update.
-> the making/editing/moving of volume KF is pretty sluggish... It's not always, but quite often, my audio track blinks crazily when I do that, next to the fact that my cursor is very "sticky" after moving the kf, changing therefore their position as I'm moving away from where I left them.
3 - /Reveal clip in Project
-> An of course unmissable feature! But I seem to be able to do it only from the TL, and not form the Source monitor... Really unhandy if this is the case. Can someone tell me more if I mistake?
I've plenty of other Q but I don't want to bother you guys too much in one go. And I must say, I feel a bit strange to have to get back to Forums for simple things after 13 years professional editing for TV but ok... That's how it is.
In any case, thanks a lot to who can give me a few tips about these issues.
@ Adobe: You are on the right path to get most of the fcp editors.. Please keep on listenning and implementing; it shows your good will ! There's still many improvments that can be done. THANKS!
System:
Premiere CC, Mac Pro, 12 cores, 2010, 20Gb RAM, 1GB GFX card.

fede7 wrote:
1 - /keyboard shortcuts
I'm glad I could choose for the FCP7 shortcut mode. Good point Adobe! Nevertheless,:
-> how can I add a "double-key" shortcut, as "rr" or even, a triple-key one?
Hi fede7,
There is no double or tripple tap capability for tool selection in Premiere Pro, sorry.
fede7 wrote:
-> Shortcuts seems not to be active-window aware. Is there a way to do so? I don't mean totally different shortcuts but for instance the "zoom to sequence" in the TL and the "zoom to source monitor"/"zoom to program monitor" could have the same shortcut, acting appropriately in the respective window... Is that possible?
Currently, no.
fede7 wrote:
-> About the "M" for add marker, if in Premiere Pro (default) shortcut mode, it does a good job as in FCP, adding a marker to the Sequence or to the Clip, depending on if a clip is selected or not. Great, but if I set the shortcuts in the FCP7 mode, and add manually the "M" shortcut for "add marker", it doesn't see the difference. Same goes for the "edit marker" that works well in the default mode when on a marker, but not if the FCP mode is chosen... Can someone help on that?
This appears to be a bug: http://www.adobe.com/go/wish
fede7 wrote:
2 - /Audio
-> Volume KFs can't be copied-pasted to another track. Neither via "Paste Attributes" nor via KF copy/Paste. Hey guys, FCP did that already 6 years ago... I hope I don't have to tell about the absolute need to be able to do so (when you've worked out your music under a VO and more and that your EP asks you to use another cue... for instance...). Please can someone tell me how to, or Adobe: make this a priority for the next update.
I was able to copy/paste attributes with audio keyframes to a different track. You can file a bug on that.
fede7 wrote:
-> the making/editing/moving of volume KF is pretty sluggish... It's not always, but quite often, my audio track blinks crazily when I do that, next to the fact that my cursor is very "sticky" after moving the kf, changing therefore their position as I'm moving away from where I left them.
Mine looks and feels OK. You may want to file a bug on that one too.
fede7 wrote:
3 - /Reveal clip in Project
-> An of course unmissable feature! But I seem to be able to do it only from the TL, and not form the Source monitor... Really unhandy if this is the case. Can someone tell me more if I mistake?
This works. Just right click or control click on the Source Monitor.
fede7 wrote:
I've plenty of other Q but I don't want to bother you guys too much in one go. And I must say, I feel a bit strange to have to get back to Forums for simple things after 13 years professional editing for TV but ok... That's how it is.
In any case, thanks a lot to who can give me a few tips about these issues.
@ Adobe: You are on the right path to get most of the fcp editors.. Please keep on listenning and implementing; it shows your good will ! There's still many improvments that can be done. THANKS!
System:
Premiere CC, Mac Pro, 12 cores, 2010, 20Gb RAM, 1GB GFX card.
Thanks for your post and your feedback. There are some good resources for FCP switchers, so have a look around.
My faves:
http://provideocoalition.com/ssimmons/story/105_adobe_premiere_pro_cs6_questions_answered
http://www.claygasbury.com/10-things-i-wish-i-knew-the-first-time-i-launched-premiere-pro- cs6-part-1/
Thanks,
Kevin

Help Me Decide - FCE or FCP

Hi -
I enrolled in a Documentary Certificate Program at Duke University and I'm just beginning my studies. I have had only one class so far, but I have to decide about software soon.
The Documentary Program uses FCP Suite, and I now own FCE 3.5 HD. The upgrade is pretty expensive, but if I need to do it I will. The question is: Do I need to upgrade?
The basic classes are just starting out, learning the basics, but the more advanced classes may use the advanced features. My studies require only 6 classes for a basic certificate, and I'm not sure I'll ever need the advanced features.
With the new features in FCE it seems as if I have enough to start with. By the way my camcorder is a starter set - Panasonic GS-150, a 3 CCD mini-DV format camera that is more of a consumer camera than a documentary camera. I will upgrade at some point, but with new HDV camcorders coming out almost daily, I want to let the dust settle. I'll address the camcorder issue in another forum area.
Comments?
iMac G5 Mac OS X (10.4.7) 512MB 2.0 GHz

Nice try, but my point was to evaluate yourself before seeking the opinions of others..
The first thing you learn when you join the discussions is search is your friend - for instance comparing the two products on their respective product pages will clearly tell you the differences between the apps.
If you have a specific point you'd like to discuss regarding the differences between FCP and Xpress then by all means address it - what you've written so far is rather vague almost to the point that it hardly required a response in the first place! I mean, seriously, one could write for days about the differences between the apps. what specifics are you looking for that you think you might need w/ FCP and then ask yourself if it's worth it? Also remember you don't have to upgrade right now at this very second... take some time to find out the differences and see if it's worth the investment.
Oh and my "witty" reply encourages people to view this forum with the comfort that they won't have to read riduculous posts like this one when the poster could of just researched the issue in the first place
I guess that's why there was no welcome - sorry
But I do wish you the very best in your endeavors and have faith the discussion forum will be there to help you when you actually have something that you need help with
I think the last line of my previous reponse pretty much answers your question:
Upgrade when you need to - it doesn't look like you need to right now - if/when you feel you need more advanced features then start thinking about upgrading.

FCE to FCP Problem

I've recently run into a problem with upgrading to Final Cut Pro from Final Cut Express and wanted to see if anyone has any suggestions or ways to fix this problem.
This past year I have been working on an important project and just completed it this December. During this time I edited the short film together using Final Cut Express
on my 24 inch iMac. This past week I have upgraded to the new 27 inch i7 iMac and installed Final Cut Studio on there.
When I opened the FCE project into FCP everything appeared to be working right but then I noticed that the color was way off. This really bothers me since I put a lot of time
into coloring the project. The main reason I know the color is off is because I also have a Apple 24 inch cinema display that I used with my old 24 inch
iMac when editing the project. It seems that since the main picture is on the 24 inch external monitor that was previously used then I should have the same color and tone from before.
As of right now when I have the project opened in Final Cut Pro the color is a lot brighter and washed out. I have checked my filters and made sure everything like color correction was
turned on and they were. My main question is there a setting or something that I can adjust to make my old FCE project work right and give me the right playback in FCP? I guess I could
always go back to my old iMac for older projects but I would like to be able to use Final Cut Pro instead with both new and old projects.
Any advice on how to fix this or adjust any setting would really help. Thanks a lot.

I just checked the original raw video file and it says
Dimensions: 1920x1080
Codecs: Apple Intermediate Codec, Linear PCM
Color Profile: HD(1-1-1)
How can I check and see if FCP decompressed the footage or decided the sequence needed a different codec? I've also noticed that my playback on my external monitor is a little more pixelated and doesn't have as clear of a picture as before when editing with FCE.
One other thing to note is that I exported a clip of the film and the exported file came out the exact way as it would if I exported from FCE and my old 24 inch iMac. This to me seems like it is a setting or someway that FCP is reading the project and giving me a weird playback picture.

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