Keyboard/trackpad problems - are Macbook top cases too fragile?

I'm starting to wonder if the top case with keyboard/trackpad is the Achilles heel of the black and white Macbooks 2007-08. I'm having problems with 3 different Macbooks.
On one, a 2.1Ghz from 2008, no internal keyboard/trackpad is recognized by the Macbook. Its original kb/tp just stopped working one day. I removed the top case and checked the connections, as well as any dust or bent pins in the socket on the logic board, but all seemed ok. Reassembled, but kb/tp still not working. I then replaced the top case with another one that I knew was working, but still no go.
Any ideas? The MB boots fine (even with the original top case installed) and works great with external kb/mouse.
On a second, a 2.16Ghz from 2007, the kb/tp suddenly stopped working one day. I'd opened the MB a couple of times just before, but I'm pretty careful and don't think I broke the cable or anything else. All the pins and the cable seem fine, as does the socket on the logic board. Here too, an external mouse/kb work perfectly.
I tried another working top case and this time it seemed to work okay. But after a day or two, it stopped working too. I then reassembled it, thinking there might be something pushing up on the keyboard, or maybe some screws loose. And once again it seemed to work.
I also noticed something odd: a couple of times at first, when I'd just reassembled the top case, the kb/tp weren't recognized. But then when the MB woke from Sleep, I heard the hard drive and DVD spin up, and suddenly the kb/tp were working again.
Anyway, after a couple of days the kb/tp stopped working again.
Question: how can the kb/tp work for a couple days, then suddenly stop working? If it were broken, wouldn't it always not work?
The 3rd Macbook is a 2.0Ghz Core 2 Duo from early 2007. Its kb/tp stopped working too (unrecognized by system, etc.). I swapped the kb/tp from the 2008 2.1Ghz onto it and this seems to have fixed the problem. It's been a few weeks now and I haven't had any trouble with it.
Question: would swapping in the top cases from different models create any problems? I see that they sometimes aren't perfect fits in terms of looks, but the screws are in the same place and everything installs pretty solidly. IIRC you have to be careful re. mixing top cases with an orange trackpad cable and a silver one, but in my case all of them had silver cables.
This is really getting to be a problem. I've got the 2 fast well-upgraded Core 2 Duo Macbooks sitting here, working perfectly apart from the kb/tp.
Any ideas greatly appreciated.

Sorry, just wanted to add in concluding that there seem to be 2 different problems.
1) with the 2.1Ghz from 2008, no working top case seems to work, so it doesn't seem to be a top case problem, but rather a problem with the connection to the logic board or somewhere else.
2) with the 2.16 from 2007, here it does seem to be a problem with the top case.
Unfortunately I don't have what I know to be a good, working top case to try on the 2.16. I think with all the assembling/disassembling, the semi-decent kb/tp I had may now have problems too.

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    (MacBook Pro 15” late 2008, OSX Yosemite 10.10.2 installed, no pending updates) computer is running very slow - takes 2-3 minutes to open apps such as Pages, even when no other apps are open.  Randomly freezes and becomes unresponsive, requiring forced power down.  Randomly logs off.  Removed Kodak AIO software via Clean My Mac2, but BonjourAgent still there and requesting access.  Cleaned weekly with Clean My Mac2 and running Sophos AntiVirus. 2GB memory installed.  Currently 169.99 GB available of 249.2 GB capacity.
    Help?
    EtreCheck version: 2.1.8 (121)
    Report generated March 21, 2015 at 11:35:35 AM EDT
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    Hardware Information: ℹ️
        MacBook Pro (15-inch, Late 2008) (Technical Specifications)
        MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro5,1
        1 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU: 2-core
        2 GB RAM Upgradeable
            BANK 0/DIMM0
                1 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok
            BANK 0/DIMM1
                1 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok
        Bluetooth: Old - Handoff/Airdrop2 not supported
        Wireless:  en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n
        Battery Health: Normal - Cycle count 59
    Video Information: ℹ️
        NVIDIA GeForce 9400M - VRAM: 256 MB
            Color LCD 1440 x 900
        NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT - VRAM: 256 MB
    System Software: ℹ️
        OS X 10.10.2 (14C1514) - Time since boot: 0:13:37
    Disk Information: ℹ️
        Hitachi HTS543225L9SA02 disk0 : (250.06 GB)
            EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB
            Macintosh HD (disk0s2) / : 249.20 GB (168.91 GB free)
            Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>  [Recovery]: 650 MB
        HL-DT-ST DVDRW  GS21N 
    USB Information: ℹ️
        Apple Inc. Built-in iSight
        Apple Inc. BRCM2046 Hub
            Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
        Apple, Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
        Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver
    Gatekeeper: ℹ️
        Mac App Store and identified developers
    Kernel Extensions: ℹ️
            /Library/Extensions
        [not loaded]    com.leapfrog.driver.LfConnectDriver (1.11.1 - SDK 10.10) [Click for support]
        [loaded]    com.sophos.kext.sav (9.2.50 - SDK 10.8) [Click for support]
        [loaded]    com.sophos.nke.swi (9.2.50 - SDK 10.8) [Click for support]
            /System/Library/Extensions
        [not loaded]    com.leapfrog.codeless.kext (2) [Click for support]
    Launch Agents: ℹ️
        [not loaded]    com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist [Click for support]
        [running]    com.kodak.BonjourAgent.plist [Click for support]
        [loaded]    com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist [Click for support]
        [running]    com.sophos.uiserver.plist [Click for support]
    Launch Daemons: ℹ️
        [loaded]    com.adobe.fpsaud.plist [Click for support]
        [loaded]    com.adobe.SwitchBoard.plist [Click for support]
        [loaded]    com.leapfrog.connect.authdaemon.plist [Click for support]
        [loaded]    com.macpaw.CleanMyMac2.Agent.plist [Click for support]
        [loaded]    com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool.plist [Click for support]
        [loaded]    com.oracle.java.JavaUpdateHelper.plist [Click for support]
        [running]    com.sophos.common.servicemanager.plist [Click for support]
    User Launch Agents: ℹ️
        [not loaded]    com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist [Click for support]
        [loaded]    com.macpaw.CleanMyMac2Helper.diskSpaceWatcher.plist [Click for support]
        [loaded]    com.macpaw.CleanMyMac2Helper.scheduledScan.plist [Click for support]
        [loaded]    com.macpaw.CleanMyMac2Helper.trashWatcher.plist [Click for support]
    User Login Items: ℹ️
        Dropbox    Application  (/Applications/Dropbox.app)
    Internet Plug-ins: ℹ️
        AdobeExManDetect: Version: AdobeExManDetect 1.1.0.0 - SDK 10.7 [Click for support]
        FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 16.0.0.305 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]
        Default Browser: Version: 600 - SDK 10.10
        Flash Player: Version: 16.0.0.305 - SDK 10.6 Outdated! Update
        AdobeAAMDetect: Version: AdobeAAMDetect 2.0.0.0 - SDK 10.7 [Click for support]
        AmazonMP3DownloaderPlugin1017265: Version: AmazonMP3DownloaderPlugin 1.0.17 [Click for support]
        JavaAppletPlugin: Version: Java 8 Update 31 Check version
        AmazonMP3DownloaderPlugin: Version: AmazonMP3DownloaderPlugin 1.0.17 [Click for support]
        QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3
        iPhotoPhotocast: Version: 7.0 - SDK 10.8
    User internet Plug-ins: ℹ️
        CitrixOnlineWebDeploymentPlugin: Version: 1.0.94 [Click for support]
        Google Earth Web Plug-in: Version: 6.0 [Click for support]
    Safari Extensions: ℹ️
        AdBlock
        Disconnect
        Add To Amazon Wish List
    3rd Party Preference Panes: ℹ️
        Flash Player  [Click for support]
        Java  [Click for support]
        Tuxera NTFS  [Click for support]
    Time Machine: ℹ️
        Skip System Files: NO
        Mobile backups: OFF
        Auto backup: YES
        Volumes being backed up:
            Macintosh HD: Disk size: 249.20 GB Disk used: 80.29 GB
        Destinations:
            Backup [Local]
            Total size: 63.67 GB
            Total number of backups: 1
            Oldest backup: 2015-02-23 16:16:08 +0000
            Last backup: 2015-02-23 16:16:08 +0000
            Size of backup disk: Too small
                Backup size 63.67 GB < (Disk used 80.29 GB X 3)
    Top Processes by CPU: ℹ️
             5%    WindowServer
             1%    loginwindow
             0%    AppleSpell
             0%    SophosUIServer
             0%    SophosAntiVirus
    Top Processes by Memory: ℹ️
        118 MB    InterCheck
        101 MB    SophosScanD
        60 MB    Dropbox
        54 MB    mds_stores
        41 MB    SophosAntiVirus
    Virtual Memory Information: ℹ️
        49 MB    Free RAM
        682 MB    Active RAM
        652 MB    Inactive RAM
        315 MB    Wired RAM
        1.49 GB    Page-ins
        2 MB    Page-outs
    Diagnostics Information: ℹ️
        Mar 21, 2015, 11:18:52 AM    Self test - passed
        Mar 21, 2015, 10:53:03 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/SophosUIServer_2015-03-21-105303_[redacted].cra sh
        Mar 19, 2015, 07:59:03 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/CalNCService_2015-03-19-195903_[redacted].crash

    Linc Davis wrote:
    Slow performance after installing Yosemite on an older Mac is often caused by inadequate memory. Although you can install the upgrade on a Mac with 2 GB of memory, experience has shown that at least 4 GB is needed for full performance.
    Select About This Mac from the Apple menu. If you have less than 4 GB of memory, and your model has upgradable memory, install as much as it can take, or at least that much. Any reputable RAM vendor will have a web form in which you can select the Mac model and be directed to compatible parts.
    Memory in the MacBook Air is not upgradable. If that's what you have, you should restore the previous system from a backup, or replace the machine. Ask if you need guidance.
    The Etrecheck report clearly shows that SylvieRose has a Macbook Pro, not a Macbook Air and that there are only 2 GB  RAM installed.  The Etrecheck report can be very informative if one takes the time to examine it. 
    Ciao.

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    The problem with the keyboard backlight, i think, is due to wine staining the sheet of plastic separating the keyboard from the LEDs behind it. Could anyone suggest a means of cleaning this or any other method of reviving the backlight, IF they have not short-circuited.
    Any suggestions other than getting Apple to help with the unresponsive trackpad?
    Thanks
    Jamie

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