Keyboard "use F-keys as standard function keys" setting gets reset on system restart

Hi all,
I have set in system preferences -> keyboard to "use f1, f2 etc. keys as standard function keys" or rather I want to keep this setting set but unfortunately this gets reset on each restart-
I'm wondering what happened, this used to work initially with Lion. I may have set somewhere something that resets this on each start but I have no clue what that might be.
Machine iMac mid 2011, keyboard Apple alu keyboard with cable (pre-Lion layout).

Thanks BDAqua...sure looked like the function had disappeared over time and appreciate the confirmaion. Hard to understand why a function like that would be taken away. The program I run uses function keys f3,f7,f11 and f23(shifted f11) and I have all working okay by turning them off in keyboard and mouse menus. The f23 is causing issued in that when I use shifted f11 the screen scrolls upward instead of passing along the f23 function. Looks like I will have to work around this since the operating system will not allow the function keys to just work "standard"...thanks by the way for the welcome...!!

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Thanks BDAqua...sure looked like the function had disappeared over time and appreciate the confirmaion. Hard to understand why a function like that would be taken away. The program I run uses function keys f3,f7,f11 and f23(shifted f11) and I have all working okay by turning them off in keyboard and mouse menus. The f23 is causing issued in that when I use shifted f11 the screen scrolls upward instead of passing along the f23 function. Looks like I will have to work around this since the operating system will not allow the function keys to just work "standard"...thanks by the way for the welcome...!!

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