Keychain and Closed Network

My airport network is closed, invisible, and uses WPA Personal security.
Normally, when I boot up/login, keychain took care of logging me in automatically into the network.
This past weekend, however, my keychain died. I have had to delete my past keychain entirely, and rebuild it from scratch.
Now, whenever I log on, I have to select Other from the Airport menu and manually enter all the information for the network, after which I can join just fine. However, I am never presented with an option to store the login into my keychain, so I have to do it every time. I am not sure how to enter it into keychain manually, as I never had to do this in the past.
Anyone know how I can make this automatic again?
I have played with locations and preferred networks in preferences, with no luck.

Problem magically disappeared. Not sure why.

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goldengti, Welcome to the discussion area!
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