Keynote 09 Magic Move has a HUGE lag in slideshow mode

I LOVE magic move. My slides were amazing! Then the upgrade happened. And now magic move has a HUGE delay, sometimes even freezes the slideshow for 30 seconds at a time. Has anyone else experienced this? Has anyone figured out how to fix this?

Then the upgrade happened
What upgrade?
Check if there is a value set in Delay
Try Resetting keynote:
remove Keynote; you must use an application removal tool for this procedure to work: Appcleaner is free and simple to use
empty the trash
repair the OS by holding the shift key and restarting the Mac
when the Mac is fully booted, this will take a few minutes longer than usual, restart normally
install Keynote from the Mac App Store

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*Hi there!*
I'm trying Keynote 09 and all goes fine, except for this *"Magic Move"* thing.
I can actually "move" one object through both slides, but can't go further than that; if I try to scale it, rotate or everything else that's not just repositioning on x and y axis, all I get is a darkened (and often cropped) image which moves towards the final position and suddenly gets replaced by the modified one at the end of the transition.
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ale

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Yep, I know... MM is pretty young and Keynote itself is not so much older, after all (and still is WAY better than PPT).
I must say I'm pretty satisfied with all its feature, even if - me too - I can see all of their potentials and often find myself thinking about improvements more as a +"*Keynote Pro*"+ application build, rather than some actual improvement on Keynote itself
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+(I can't try this myself 'cause... well, I wouldn't be here if I could)+ :/
2. I think it's fair you can't move template objects in general +(I also come from DTP, where "Masters pages" and their elements *must not* be editable, unless you badly want to)+. But I think if you just select the text boxes you want to move, making a command-X ("cut") and command-V should "unchain" them from the master slide and make them become brand new objects.
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As it happens writing that long explanation, I thought I'd look from another angle and returned to the file – finding the answer straight away.
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Description: I have a slide on which there are several text boxes that appear and then move to different locations on the slide. One text box is used as the magic move link, this text box has no actions attached to it.
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