Keyword HUD/Hierarchy

I have one big request for Aperture... In the Query HUD the keywords need to be displayed within a hierachical list just like they are in the keywords HUD, but with check boxes next to each keyword.
It does absolutely no good to have hierachical keywords if you can make selections based on each level of the hierarchy.
For example, within the Query HUD I would like to be able to narrow images down by location, so I would start with USA to see everything in the US, then I could select Colorado, to narrow down to state, then I could select Denver to narrow down to city, and even an address or landmark beyond that if I chose. But as is the only keyword I can select in the query HUD is the most specific, which as I said, completely defeats the point of having a hierarchical key word structure.
This would be a really simple fix, so I'm crossing my fingers for a 1.5.1 release.

I'm not sure if this is a 1.5.1 thing only or not, but you CAN select keywords at any level of the keyword hierarchy and they WILL filter as you expect them to. The only trick is getting the keywords to appear in the filter dialog to make this happen.
The missing piece is that you need to have at least one image in the project that is tagged with each higher level keyword you want to be able to filter on.
Details here:
http://homepage.mac.com/bagelturf/aparticles/metadata/keyhigh/keyhigh.html

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Can't drag keywords to top level in the keyword HUD

After having imported my iPhoto library into Aperture 3, I found the keyword HUD cluttered with all of my 300+ keywords, many of which were duplicated. No idea why that is, but anyway. Some of them now live on top level, some on second floor under the main keyword "iPhoto", some of them are duplicates, some are not. That's the situation.
So I want to (a) drag some of them to first level, (b) build my own hierarchy, and (c) consolidate those duplicates that are alloted on separate levels. Now I find myself in trouble. Technically, I can drag any second level keyword from one to another first level keyword, but then they remain always on second floor. I find no way to move it to *first level* in the HUD.
I know that this can be done when the keyword HUD is almost empty. In that case, I drag it to the bottom of the list, see a white border pop up around the HUD, and let go. Simple. But not when the HUDs filled up to the brim?
Am I missing something?

OK ... but you're gonna groan. This is, btw, a long-standing bug (but still an excellent question).
Use the search field to search for the keyword you want to move.
Take advantage of the now empty space in the Keyword HUD to move the keyword.
Clear the search field.
Note that if you set up a well-organized hierarchical keyword list (which seems to be your goal), you can use the other work-around, which is to collapse all levels of the outline.
You might find these remarks on merging duplicates helpful:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=12399717&#12399717
Message was edited by: Kirby Krieger to correct typos -- sorry, seems the coffee hasn't reached the fingertips.

Keyword used per Keyword HUD, but not on any image per filtered search?

On the keyword HUD I try to delete a keyword and get the warning that the keyword is used by two versions, so I don't delete it.
I then go to a smart album showing all library photos and attempt to search for images having that keyword and nothing else (also don't have 'stack picks only' checked). This finds nothing!
How can this be? I even searched the trash and nothing there either that matches the keyword that supposedly exists on two versions.
Regards, Strathglass

Guys,
Before you chalk it up as a bug, check your keyword HUD for the same keyword appearing in different parts of your keyword hierarchy.
I had a situation occur where I exported some keyworded raws as jpegs to create a pano. When I reimported the resulting pano done in PSE 6, the keywords came back across into Aperture, but at the top level of the keyword hierarchy. For example:
(1) Aperture keyword was animals/reptiles/snakes/Venomous
(2) On re-import, I ended up with keywords of animals, reptiles, snakes, and venomous in the top level of the keyword structure.
Result = same keyword but in different locations in the hierachy. Confusion!
This also happens when you import photos that were keyworded in an external app, but I'm not sure of the extent of the occurrence.

Keyword HUD Draging

I am unable to drag keywords from the Keyword HUD either to viewer or browser images or even within the Keyword HUD (change hierarchy). I have tried the S key. no luck. I have just downloaded a trial version 1.5.2. I have read the PDF Manual and watched the web video instruction. I am sure I am doing something wrong but I don't know what. I can delete and add keywords in the HUD but that's about it. I can use the batch feature to add keywords but i would rather drag them. Any ideas?

Never Mind

Matching projects to keyword HUD?

I've painstakingly created a hierarchy in the keyword HUD. Example:
Nature
     Flora
          Trees
          Flowers
               Mums
               Tulips
     Fauna
          Animals
              Dogs
               Cats
               Deer
     Insects
     Birds and so on. Now, I'd like to arrange my pics in projects, folders, smart albums whatever to match the keyword HUD. In the example that I've given, would this work?: Project is Nature, folders in that project are Flora and Fauna, Subfolders in Fauna are Animals, Insects, Birds? If this doesn't make sense, how might I use Smart Albums to organize pictures within Projects and Folders? I feel so dense--ugh.
thanks, Mike

Mike,
I'd leave the projects as they are, grouped by locations, events, shoots, as you took them, but group the smart albums according to your keyword hierarchy.
I'd create a folder "Nature", inside two folders "Flora" and "Fauna".
Create nested folders for all your your subcategories, and inside these folders smart albums for the corresponding keyword. Set the source of the smart rule to "Library" for the smart album.
Léonie

Problems with keywords assignment (hierarchy is included)

Hi group,
this probably happens after I was letting Lightroom to a catalog optimization, but I am not quiet sure about this.
So what happens: As you know, you can create a keyword tag hierarchy and sometimes LR does this automatically.
If I now do some keyword assignments in the library mode (right panel), then these keywords get replaced by a hierarchy-to-keyword string.
E.g. if I enter a keyword 'female' and LR has a hierarchy for this (e.g. female and male are sup-levels of person), then the keyword tag entry area contains the following: person > female. If e.g. I assign both male and female e to an image, then I get as result: person > female, person > male.
This blows up the list and does not make it very readable.
Does anybody knows how to stop LR doing this? If haven't found any flag value in the options.
Thanks in advance
John

John, I think this is just part of the poor design of the key-wording feature. There are many oddities. I got my initial keyword list from D65. I found that when I use the "Enter Keywords" view of the keywords assigned to a particular image, many of them show the hierarchy they are part of, as if I had selected the "Keyword & Containing Keywords" option, but some do not. Adobe told D65 that this is related to how you create the hierarchical entries. If you create a keyword and use the "Create keyword tag inside XXXXX" option, in use it will act differently than if you drag-and-drop a keyword into an hierarchical relationship. This is completely at odds with proper programming practice! I have also found today (in LR4, by the way) that if I sync from an image with keywords to an image without keywords immediately to its left, I get duplications of keywords in the rightmost image, as if the rightmost image had updated the left one, and it had reflected the sync back to the originating image. This does not happen if I sync from the leftmost image to the rightmost one. So I went into the keyword list and unchecked that keyword for the image that had the duplication. Now I have the keyword just once, but there's no check beside it in the keyword list showing that it is being used. I'm also getting duplicates of nested keywords popping up at the top level of the hierarchy. I've just realized that this has been happening for some time. The whole keyword feature is a mess. Adobe needs to:
1. fix the keyword feature so that it works in a simple, consistent and predictable manner
2. provide users with a documentation update to explain how it now works
3. provide a cleanup utility of some sort (if necessary) to let us get our keywords rationalized
Perhaps step 0. should be "stop ignoring and/or denying the keyword problem".
I've just gotten into such a mess with my latest batch of imported photos that I'm going to have to delete all assigned keywords, including those added on import, and start again. I am not amused.
JVH

CAN YOU COPY KEYWORD TAGGING HIERARCHY FROM ONE CATALOG TO ANOTHER?

I use PSE 9 and I HAVE SO MANY PICTURES THAT THE ORGANIZER RUNS SLOW. I want to split into 2 or 3 catalogs and use the same keyword tagging hierarchy in each catalog. I know how to write the tags to the picture files but when I do that and then load the split of pictures into a new catalog, all the tags are alpha without the the sub-catagory hierarchy that I'd set up in the original catalog. Can I get the same tagging in each catalog and/or start a new catalog that has the same keyword tag hierarchy?

In your old catalog:
Show the Keyword Tags panel.
Click the green plus sign.
Choose "Save Keyword Tags to File".
In your new catalog, before importing any photos, repeat steps 1 & 2, then choose "From File". That will import your keyword tags with the hierarchy intact.
Ken

Aperture 3 - keywords HUD multiple copies of all keywords???

Hi
On my macbook pro somehow I have managed to get 3 copies of all my keywords in the keyword HUD.
Is there anyway of resetting the file back to default?
I've tried deleting the .plist files keywords.plist and keywordsets.plist but when I reopen Aperture the HUD file is still the same?
Thanks
Catherine

Can you not highlight all the duplicates and click the delete button.
Hold down the Apple key select the duplicates and click the delete button.
Allan

Keywords Deleted From Keyword HUD Randomly Reappear

I hope I'm just doing something wrong, and if so, that someone can point me in the right direction because this is driving me nuts.
I am trimming down the keywords available in the Keyword HUD so that only the ones that I use are listed. I am deleting them from the "Stock categories" section and adding a few new ones that I need. The problem is that some of the keywords that I remove mysteriously reappear in the list again. Why is this happening, and how do I fix it?
Thanks in advance!

Hello, Kirby.
Yes, this is in fact what I'd discovered to be the issue ... every time I opened the Keyword control bar, it would repoplulate the HUD with previously deleted keywords. I had been under the impression that the HUD was the do-all end-all location for managing keywords.
I have since done exactly what you've suggested and simply nuked the existing button sets and created my own, and then cleaned out the existing, unneeded keywords and have started creating my own to assign to the button sets.
I do get some odd behavior still; Sometimes when I open the keyword command bar, the three buttons sets that I have (Shoe Box I, Shoe Box II, and Shoe Box Comics) do not show up, but instead there are three non-existent sets named after long-deleted sets and they contain no keywords. To fix it, I have to go into the editing mode for button sets, and then exit back out. Small things.
Thanks again for the prompt and accurate resolution to the problem!
-Travis

Keyword hud questions

Hi there everyone,
I have a couple of questions regarding the keyword hud:
Somehow my "stock categories" entry has moved as a sub-entry for another keyword. I have tried to just drag it out back to its rightful spot but it only seems to want to become a sub-entry for the keywords around it and not become its own main keyword again. How do I put it back in place?
Is it possible to create multiple customised keyword huds for each Project. My main keyword hud already seems to becoming unmanagable with so many words and categories and it is slowing down my work flow having to scroll through the long list and keep opening sub key words etc.
When I first started using the keywords feature I thought it was great and very easy and fast, but the more words I add the more ungainly it becomes.
There are many different keywords that I do not need for specific projects so slimming down the keywords available for each project would speed up my workflow dramatically I think.
Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated.
Cheers,
Justin

Had a similar issue & It took me a while to figure this one out - but it's quite simple really!
To put the Stock category back to the root level simply drag it onto an empty area at the bottom of the list - ie so no other category is highlighted - and then release the mouse button. The category should then move back. If it doesn't, or goes into another sub-cat, then you'd still got a category highlighted somewhere.
You can't create customised Keyword HUDs, but you can use the Keyword Presets in the control bar (Press Shift-D to hide/unhide them, press D to Hide/Unhide the control bar itself). You can create different sets of keywords and then use the alt-1 through alt-0 to add then. Check the manual for a bit more detail (Chptr 10, pg213).
HTH

Keyword HUD has disappeared

Whilst using App 3 the Keyword HUD seems to have disappeared. The Window dropdown toggles between show and hide the HUD but is not visable. Would appreciate any suggestions.

Have you rebooted? The HUD is likely lost on another "space" or otherwise off the screen. Rebooting should bring back any lost windows.
Just the first thing to check. Post back.
(Go Bumblebeez! ??? )

Keyword HUD do not coincide with Keyword filter

How many times a keyword is used is shown in keyword HUD, but sometimes it does´nt coicide with the real number of files I have tagged. When using the Keyword filter the number of files is different to the real number of tagged files.
Anybody out there who could help me ?

Are you looking at the Organizer in File Order display?
If so, then look at this thread
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/748720?tstart=180

Keyword HUD gone

I've just installed Aperture and installed my entire iphoto library - but after having applied about a hundred keywords or so from the Keywords HUD, the HUD has just vanished. First it froze, then I restarted Aperture, and now I can't find it anywhere, no matter what I do and even though I can both hide and show it from the menu. Help?

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Keyword HUD Slow Slow Slow

Three days into Aperture so far, and so good. Very intuitive and easy to use. The import list function in the Keyword HUD is a huge timesaver.
However, when I imported a list of North American birds, the HUD takes forever (well, 13 seconds, anyway) to toggle it open. What, if anything, can be done to speed it up (besides adding more memory)?
Thanks for the help!
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It's easy to add your own keywords to the keyboard shortcuts, if that's what you want to do.
Otherwise there are a couple areas you can type them and have them automatically added. Or you can do batch change to add them to a group of photos. This also works with autocomplete.
But you'd probably need to read 3 pages of the manual :-P

Bridge Keywords and hierarchy

My bridge doesn't let me work hierarchly. There is not the green arrow at the bottom to do so, nor a box to run "search"
Does anybody know how to solve this?
Thank you

Hello Curt
Thank you for your reply.
This Keyword system was working earlier, that is I could shut off the computer and come back to open Bridge and the keywords were there.
As you suggested the keyword did come up in Italics as I began working with them a few days ago, because someone had responded to an old Thread of mine from this site from almost a year ago. Initially there were coming up as persistent in normal font face.
I followed your suggestion with a smaller batch of Keywords, then shut down the computer and, and they were present when the program came back up.
So Thanks, that works.
This will get me back on the right track again with Keywords.
I have no idea what iniciated a change of from persistent keywords to loosing them all in the past. But at least cognitively, I now have a clear process for getting them to show up again on start.
Thanks again for your reply.

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