Keyword synonyms

Can someone direct me to a source that discusses how to use Keyword synonyms?
I can create them either in LR or with an external text editor, but I can't see them in LR and can not find any text that explains how to use them. The LR Help file is of little use in this matter, and all the references I have been able to fine only describe how to create them. Those references say they are very useful things, but give no clue how to use them or why they ae usefull.
Thanks,
Wil

What exactly do you mean by "make it work"?
A few details:
- You can use them to save on data entry (eg using the common and Latin names of species)
- You can see them by double clicking a keyword in the Keyword List,
- See them by switching the Keywording panel to "Will Export" (the Keyword tags drop down box)
- When you export a file, any synonyms are also written into the export file.
- Also, you can search for synonyms in smart collections.
John

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Keyword Synonyms don't work

Keyword synonyms do not appear to set up a bidirecional relationship between the keyword and the synonym
Define a keyword and specify a synonym
Tag an image with the keyword (not the synonym); The image will appear under both the keyword and the synonym in the catalog
Tag an image with the synonym; In this case the image will appear ONLY under the synonym, as if the synonym is now a new top-level keyword
What's the point of the synonym definition if it goes only one way? You can't use the synonyms interchangeably with the keyword, you have to remember it's a synonym. This can't be working as designed, can it?

Tag an image with the synonym; In this case the image will appear ONLY under the synonym, as if the synonym is now a new top-level keyword.
When you enter the name of a synonym into the Keywording > Enter Keywords text box, it actually does create a new tag of the same name and apply it to the image. That new tag has no relationship to the synonym or the synonym's tag.
A related issue is that synonyms can't be searched via the Keyword List > Filter Keywords box; see this thread for more details:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/663188?tstart=0
It appears that these changes (whether bugs or deliberate design) were introduced in LR 3.

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The color changes are in the color profile, which you can set in the develop module, camera calibration tab. This will have little effect on the vast majority of images.

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I just exported a large batch of images sized for submission to Alamy. I had the images that were created by the export, imported back into Lightroom.
The problem. All the keyword synonyms that were exported in the images, created new stand alone keywords in the keyword list - bad.
I had all my keywords nicely organized into 12 neat groups. Now I have a couple of hundred top level keywords because of the synonyms.
Can this be prevented?
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bill

When a keyword is exported in an image, its synonyms are also exported by default. Sincere there is no industry standard governing synonyms, LR exports them as top-level keywords. And then when you reimport the exported image, those top-level keywords get added to your catalog.
You can stop the synonyms from being exported by right-clicking their containing keyword in the Keyword List pane, selecting Edit Keyword Tag, and unchecking Export Synonyms. Unfortunately, you'll have to do that with each keyword that contains synonyms -- there is no batch editing of keywords.

Reimporting of Keyword Synonyms

I just wanted to check if I understand the behaviour of 1.4 and whether anything has changed in V2.
a) If I export images where keyowrds have synonyms and leave the "write keywords as LR Heirachy" unchecked I will see all my leyowrds in other programs. however on reimporting ot LR I get a trillion extra keywords clogging up my keyword list. The only solution I have found is to drag all these extra keywords into a new keyword folder called "Synonyms" so effectively hiding them.
b) If I tick the "write as heirachy" box then i will only see the entered keyords in other programs, but at least when i reimport to LR I don't get any addiitonal keywords added.
If this is correct it is extremely irritating, but hopefulyl I'm missing something or V2 has a fix.
Thanks

Hi,
as MethodPhoto's link indicates keywords (and synonyms) needs to be set to be exported.
If you created the Keywords in LR 1, these settings were not automatically transfered to LR 2. There is a solution though. Install and run a script found @ http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/405/kb405074.html
I use keywords in a slightly different way than you. I have made a taxonomic hierachy (using http://www.catalogueoflife.org/annual-checklist/browse_taxa.php) so by just tagging with scientific species name and family (like "species name" > "family"), family, order, class, phylum, kingdom etc. will be exported with images.
Searching through the hierachy is possible. Eg. I can find all my photos of "Insecta" (without these photos being tagged directly with "Insecta".
I agree that it is not very useful that the keyword synonyms are not searchable. It really makes them of limited use.
Best regards,
Lars

Why do keyword synonyms get imported as separate keywords?

Hello, and sorry if this question has been asked before (it's my first time in the forums, and I find them rather user-unfriendly).
I'm currently trying to understand keywords & keyword hierarchies.
I have successfully created several keywords that include sub-keywords and synonyms, for example, the top keyword "Location" includes the sub-keyword "Europe", and for that I have entered the synonym "Europa" (German translation for "Europe").
Now, I apply the keyword "Europe" to an image, export the image, and add the exported image to my catalog. And now Lightroom automatically adds "Europa" as a separate keyword to my keyword list. This defeats the whole purpose of keyword hierarchies, since my keyword list will soon be cluttered again, and all the help sites I've browsed so far speak of uncluttered keyword lists.
So, my suspicion is that I'm doing something wrong. But I am lost... can anybody help?
I have checked the option "Write Keywords as Lightroom Hierarchy" when exporting - I thought this would mean that my exported image will contain the same keyword hierarchy and thus there shouldn't be any new keywords added to my list when adding that exported file to my catalog. But it doesn't seem to work...
Any suggestions?
Thanks a lot!

Cornelia-I wrote:
Come on, Brett,
That is no solution to Simone's problems!
She wants the full LR capability of keyword hierarchies plus synonyms on any level. This should work if you export out of LR and back in. Especially if you share such a photo with a different person.
Does your answer mean that LR is incapable of doing that? That the feature of synonyms just does not work, because LR cannot mark an exported keyword as synonym of another?
Leaving aside the awkward question of WHY one would immediately re-import an exported image - synonyms are intended to work within a given Catalog despite not being present as actual keywords on an image.
So it is not necessary to physically include synonyms either outgoing or incoming, in order for these to operate correctly while you are in the Catalog concerned. Just like Collections, synonyms and keyword nesting are properties of a Catalog; not of an image.
Any image which has a particular real keyword, "hooks into" any associated synonym behaviour automatically - and any hierarchy behaviour also.
Including these "virtual" keywords as REAL keywords on export, means that they ACt as real keywords. For example, these are no longer synonyms, they are now full keywords in their own right - so they will now show in the keywords list.
If you don't require synonyms or implied-hierarchy to be seen OUTSIDE Lightroom then - simply - don't include this in your output.
If you want to pass images on to someone else in a way that maintains all the same full Catalog functions that you have locally; you can select them and Export as Catalog. Or you can provide them with a template Catalog which already contains this structure. When they import your new image with its actual keywords, all the related virtual synonyms and hierarchy will already be there, for them to hook into.

Keyword - Synonym bug?

Please could someone confirm whether this is a known bug, or something particular to my set-up...
My workflow is: shoot RAW, select images, keyword, Edit in Photoshop (TIFF).
The problem I have is that the keywords I add to the RAW images correctly get embedded in the TIFF file when the file is created as a result of "Edit in Photoshop", except that the synonyms do not. i.e. After I open the image in PShop I can see all the keywords (including parents where I have requested them to be shown) but no synonyms!!!
I'm using latest release of LR/PShop on Vista 64.
Any help would be appreciated as I am not looking forward to having to hunt for all keywords containing synonyms and creating/applying dedicated keywords for the synonyms (kind of defeats the point of synonyms!).
Thanks!

Personally, I think your approach is the correct one; once a file is generated it should have all the keywords embedded. However, LR's approach is at least consistent. The RAW file doesn't have the synonyms either until it is exported in some way. When you open the RAW directly into PS without going through LR the synonyms aren't embedded.
I think Adobe has taken the approach that LR manages the keywords until you export the final product for use elsewhere. You wouldn't need to re-import the TIFF since it is already in LR with its synonyms. It's just that they aren't embedded at that point.
I would raise this issue with Adobe by filing it as either a bug report or a feature request at http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform

Synonyms in keywords palette

I need a script to include synonyms in the keywords palette in Adobe Bridge with an option to apply only the synonyms, as in Lightroom.
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When select "KEYWORD", only add to the image the words are in quotation marks or any other symbol.

fabriziopg wrote:
I've found a kind of solution in italian web site.
http://www.spider-mac.com/2013/10/28/il-dizionario-italiano-integrato-di-os-x-ma vericks-e-ottimo-ma-quello-di-spider-mac-e-migliore/
Very useful, thanks for providing that link!

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We are facing below issue with fast search.
Currently in My project when we are searching for a phrase it is returning wrong result sets.
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But the expected results are only Endura documents.
When we look in to the documents we didn’t find the search term (“Endura” ) either inside document content or in its meta data.
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What is lightroom doing behind the scenes? Can't figure it out

Hi,
Not sure if this is a stupid question or not... I've prowled through some FAQ's and can't find an answer so I'll just post this and see if any of you have an answer.
This might be because I'm using the trial version, but I can't see how Lightroom 'saves' changes to your photos. I've gone through and made some color corrections to some photos, added keywords, but when I go to the folder they're in, the files aren't changed at all, even after exiting and reopening Lightroom. I guess this is a 'feature' of Lightroom's non-destructive editing, but I can't figure out how you're supposed to get your changes made. You don't have to go through the 'print' or 'web' tabs to export images, do you? Or do you need to export images one by one and then deal with copies of each image (ie, balancing the Lightroom'ed files vs. the originals)?
Also, try as I might I can't seem to get my keyword updates for images to be reflected in Windows when I right-click and go to properties. It's important to me that Lightroom be able to edit keywords in the actual file, and not just maintain a little library of keywords per image somewhere locally like Picasa did. The reasons are numerous, but include the fact that I'd like to be able to move images around from place to place and have the keywords stick with them.
Which also brings up the question of where Lightroom's database of keyword synonyms exist at. I'm guessing it's all in one giant file somewhere on my computer? And if that's the case, then when I edit keywords on my laptop and move them to my desktop, the desktop won't recognize the keyword synonyms? I'll need to manually sync Lightroom databases on the two machines every so often?
Sorry if these are silly questions, but they feel like basics to me and I can't see any obvious mention of these in the FAQ's or manual. If it's located somewhere obvious in the manual then you can just let me know that, but at this point I'd kind of prefer if someone who knows can just give me a yes/no.
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--Allen

>Remember though that the color corrections, exposure, etc. just get saved as instructions in the file itself.
Metadata and parametric (develop) settings are stored in Lr's database. This information is only written to disk -- either within TIF, PSD, JPEG, or DNG files, or a sidecar XMP file for proprietary raw files -- when preferences are set to "Automatically write changes to XMP", or you explictly write using the Metadata>XMP menu.
When you export an image keywords are always exported as well. The OP stated something about Windows file properties not showing keywords. I have no idea what convention Microsoft uses for this information but it is non-standard. For example the free image viewer Irfanview shows this IPTC data just fine.

Centralized user tables

Hi,
I'm sure that this question has been asked over and over by different people. If I have a common user table (PERS) and a couple of tables (PERS_APP_ROLE, ...) to store user roles in a schema in one standalone database - Oracle, of course. I have a separate APEX application that handles self-service things like user changing their password or personal information. Then, I have multiple APEX applications, residing in different databases, that authenticate against the user tables in the above remote database schema - via database link. In addition, I log the numeric ID of the user who creates and updates the records in many of these applications. Therefore, in many pages of these applications, I need to query the remote database in order to get the user name of these ID's.
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Andy

thanks for your replies.
i did check to see what happend when describing v$session as both a regular user (and as internal), and for each i received:
ERROR:
ORA-04043: object USER1.V_$SESSION does not exist
and laurent - thanks - i had it in my head that it was a synonym problem, but i couldn't remember the keyword 'synonym' - i kept thinking it was something along the lines of 'alias', which of course it isnt.
it appears, however, after looking at dba_synonyms a little more closely, that somehow the owner of a bunch of the USER_% synonyms were USER1? no idea how that happened, and like the previous poster stated not sure why an export or import would have an effect on the dictionary or synonyms.
anyway, reran catalog.sql, and all seems fine now.
thanks again for your help!
sandeep

A question about schema

I am intrigued by the term 'schema' in Oracle. It seems that it is just a synonym of 'user'. Is it just a conceptual term and can be substituted by 'user' in a sense ? I am confused because I've never seen the keyword synonym appear in any sql statements. Thks.
A beginner.

Hi,
>>It seems that it is just a synonym of 'user'.
No. From documentation, a schema is a collection of database objects. A schema is owned by a database user and has the same name as that user. Schema objects are the logical structures that directly refer to the database's data. Schema objects include structures like tables, views, and indexes. (There is no relationship between a tablespace and a schema. Objects in the same schema can be in different tablespaces, and a tablespace can hold objects from different schemas.)
>>I am confused because I've never seen the keyword SCHEMA appear in any sql statements.
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Legatti
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I just created a 4000 term keyword file, hierarchically organized. i used excel to create the organization. this was not an easy task because it seems that lightroom requires a file organized to look like this
main keyword
               subkeyword
                         subsubkeyword {synonym}
main keyword2
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etc
my original excel file looked like this
main keyword        subkeyword          subsubkeyword                                        {synonym}
main keyword2      subkeyword2       subsubkeyword2 subsubsubkeyword {synonym2}
It was not easy to get all of the synonyms lined up with the final subkeyword, because the hierarchy length varied. I couldnt just remove repeated tabs because the keywords had to have repeated tabs to end up at the right level.
it would be great if lightroom could use a more standard spreadsheet format. Of course, perhaps there is a simpler way that i am overlooking.

the problem was not so much converting from columns to rows which can be done using sequence numbers and copying and deleting as needed. the problem is in moving the synonyms so that there are not duplicate tabs between the last keyword and the synonyms. If i understand correctly the synonyms have to be on the same line as the last subkeyword and with only one tab between keyword and synonyms. i wrote some formulas that did this but it was only a partially automated method and very messy.
As you say, the format is a poor one.

How to search keywords by synonym (Lightroom CC)

Hi
I'm using a hierarchical keywording for animal taxonomy, it is based on the "official" latin names, vernacular names in various languages are included as synonyms.
Is there a way to search for keywords using their synonyms? The search box seems to be limited to only the keyword and does not look for synonyms.
Thanks
Chris

Chris,
Just to clarify what LR does do: When you search by keyword in the Library Filter bar or with a smart collection, LR does search synonyms. However, as you noticed, when you use the Filter Keywords box in the Keyword List panel, synonyms are ignored. Also, you can't enter a synonym into the Keywording panel (if you try it, LR will silently create a new keyword for you). It appears that LR 2 had the ability to filter the keyword list by synonyms and use synonyms to apply keywords, but that functionality was removed in LR 3.
Please add your vote and opinion to this topic in the official Adobe feedback forum: Lightroom: Find keyword by synonym
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