Keyword Tags Question

I am using PSE 9  and have just been checking some of my keyword Tags.  I have run into a problem where I am looking in one keyword tag  eg animals, and there are some photos in there that do not belong there - they have the keyword Flowers on them.   They DO NOT have that keyword tag on them,   What might be causing this problem and how do I rectify it please?  No other Keyword tags are ticked.  Nothing I have tried seems to have worked

just further to my question above  each photo has a small icon  circle with a line through it on the top left hand side.. Says no match.  What does this mean?

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  • A question about keyword tags

    Is it possible in settings... or somewhere, to set it so that when you open (PrE9's) organizer instead of starting with keyword hierarchy list - it could open on keyword cloud view? I am not so keen on the hierrarchy method...
    Thanks.
    brush

    I did some experimenting in the Elements 9 Organizer.
    1-- yes, when you close the Organizer then it does always seem to come up next time with the Thumbnail grid AND the Tags panel on the right is set to Hierarchy view. Then you must click on the icon for Cloud view.
    2-- my conclusion is that if I click on the Cloud icon after starting the Organizer, then it was staying as Cloud in the Keyword Tags panel to the right of the Thumbnails for the duration that the Organizer is open.
    3-- Note that if you use Full Screen for viewing your photos, then for the "Quick Organize" panel that drags out from the left side of the screen near the bottom, the default for Keyword Tags is Cloud. This is a different method of working which you may or may not like: however since it does set Cloud I decided to mention it.
    FYI - to get to Full Screen you can use the pull down menu for the Display icon (that is next to the House icon on the top bar of the main Organizer screen). Choose the option "View, Edit, Organize in Full Screen".  FYI - I usually select the thumbnails of the photos which I want to Organize before I go in to Full Screen.

  • Reinstalled PSE7 - how to retrieve albums and keyword tags? [Was: Question]

    Hiya
    Using Photoshop Elem’7- I have had a major problem with my pc and I have gone back to factory settings, I have reloaded the Photoshop software – I can see all my photo’s back on my hard drive and also on Photoshop but I cannot retrieve my albums and keyword tags
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    Hi
    This is actually the Photoshop forum, and you would do better in the Elements forum. 
    http://forums.adobe.com/community/photoshop_elements
    But it seems that Elements creates a catalog file where I suspect it keeps the info you are looking for.
    This is one link, but you could try Google with Adobe Photoshop Elements catalog location, ot just go ask in the other forum.
    http://don26812.wordpress.com/2009/06/18/photoshop-elements-catalog-file-the-critical-link /

  • Keyword Tags Won't Delete

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    Tried the throw away top level key word idea as you suggested, but it didn't resolve the problem. I also deleted the 'dud' keywords from Bridge and Windows Photo Gallery and then went back to Lr and tried the suggestion again. It still didn't work. There are 3 dud keywords that keep reappearing in Windows Photo Gallery, despite having been deleted. It's amazing how all but three seem to have gone for good from Windows Photo Gallery. What makes the three persistent ones special, I have no idea.
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    It like they're hiding away in the image files or some database in such a way that I can't access them and when I edit or rename a 'good' keyword it causes Lr to re-read the image file or database and import the keywords. This, despite that fact that none of the dud keywords show up in the metadata for any of my images as displayed by Lr; eg in the Keywording panel on the right. They also no longer show up in Bridge or Windows Photo Gallery (except for 3). Furthermore, all the dud keywords show '0' for the number of images they're assigned to.
    By the way, I've also tried the Purge Unused Keywords function to no avail.

  • How do I find photos without a keyword tag?

    How do I find photos without a keyword tag?
    And by the way a further question regarding keyword tags remains unanswered...Why is there a difference between the number next to the keyword and the actual index number in the keyword folder?

    I will try and explain in more detail to ensure we don't talk past each other.
    I'm in "Catalog" and "All Photographs" is highlighted.
    I selected to show the "Index Number" under "Library View Options".
    In "Keyword List" I have main keywords such as Europe, Africa and Asia with no number to the right of it.
    If I open the Europe keyword I have a list of countries each of them with a number next to them.
    Next to Spain there is now showing the number 46.
    I open "Spain" by clicking on the arrow to the right of the number.
    Now all the photos with the Spain tag is shown but there are only 23 photo.  Under Portugal there is 80 shown but only 40 photos is shown.  Under Ireland the keyword only 11 is shown but once open there are 1132 photos.
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    As a fairly new LR user it just appears to me that the two function don't "speak" or "correlate" with each other.

  • Associate old keyword tag (name) to a face in PSE 8.0?

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  • Keyword tags issue

    Hi. I've asked a similar question already but I don't think I was specific.  So here's the problem.  When I import keyword tags identifiying the people in my photos such as: L-R Zander, Bob and Andrea... the keyword tags are then imported alphabetically such as L-R: Andrea, Bob and Zander.  I do not want it this way as it identifies the persons in the photos incorrectly.  Any ideas how to fix this? Thanks alot.

    If you mean you want to see the tags ordered according to the location of each person in your photo, left to right for instance, you understand you'll have to find a way to enter the visual order somewhere...
    But tags were  never meant to have any order, the correct way to document your pictures is to use either captions or notes.

  • Keyword tags not being imported into Organizer when doing Save As

    I've got quite a number of pictures in the Organizer, and find the keyword searching invaluable.
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    Duncan

    Hi,
    Thanks for the reply.
    How are you opening the files into the Editor. Are you in the Organizer and you select a photo and the Ctrl-I (or menu command) to open the editor? Or do you open the file from the Editor directly, searching for it among your folders?
    I'm opening the files from the Organizer using Ctrl+I.
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    I'm using PSE7 with the latest updates applied.
    What file type are you trying to save the photo as? Please confirm that the originals are .jpg and not RAW.
    I'm using .jpg and .psd, using Save As with the same filetype.  e.g. open dsc1017.jpg save it as dsc1017_modified.jpg
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  • PSE 9 Organizer Error Adding Keyword Tags and Other Woes

    Hello, everyone.  I am having a ton of problems with PSE 9 Organizer.  The most frustrating and biggest problem is that I believe my catalog has been corrupted beyond repair.  I spent all of yesterday tagging my photos.  I had no problems and everything seemed to be going well until all of the sudden, the organizer suddenly froze up.  I had to use the Windows task manager just to get it to close.  This happened several times.  Finally, the organizer locked up my computer and I had to restart.  I opened the catalog and didn't seem to have any problems at that point.  I was able to view all of the images, video files etc.  I was even able to open the editor from the organizer.  When I tried to add a tag to a photo it gave me an error.  All it said was "error adding keyword tag" then nothing.  I tried to delete the photo and all it said was "error deleting photo".  This "error" shows up any time I try to make any changes to all of the images.  I can't add any new photos, can't delete, or add tags.  I have repaired the catalog several times.  It found errors the first time, but evidently that didn't fix my problem.  I also optimized and deleted my thumbnail cache to see if that was the issue.  Still nothing.  I have other catalogs and they work fine, so it is something to do with this particular catalog.  Any suggestions on what to do next?  Can I move the pictures to a new catalog without losing the tags?  And no, I didn't write the tags to the images because I wasn't done tagging.  Besides, PSE doesn't always write the tags correctly, as you probably know. Next problem.   When I first open PSE and select the organizer, it doesn't alway open.  I can see it on my taskbar (Windows 7 64 bit), but I can't get the window to maximize.  I have to close and open several times to get the window to open.  Sometimes it randomly jumps to my second monitor like it can't decide where to go.  Very frustrating.  I would appreciate any suggestions about what to do.  Thanks.

    Back to the original question, after thinking about this for a couple days I have had two ideas for workarounds:
    1)  Copy my tag names into the photo metadata and create a new catalog to bring all of my images into.  This will allow me to keep all of my existing tags, and it MIGHT solve the tag display problem based on a test with a couple images in a new catalog.  The downsides to this are a) permanently writes my tags into the photo metadata which will be bad if I decide to change something later, b) loses all version sets, and c) loses all albums (although I don't have that many).  I found instructions for this workaround at http://www.johnrellis.com/psedbtool/photoshop-elements-faq.htm#_Merging_Catalogs.
    2)  Live with the lack of color tag display in Organizer, and use reverse searches to find missing tag categories.  For example, if I want to find all photos that do not have a "Places" tag, I check the box next to the "Places" category (which also selects all sub-categories and tags below this).  Then I go to the Options drop-down in the Find Bar and "Hide best match results" and "Show results that do not match".  This gives me every image in my catalog that does not have a tag from the "Places" category, so I can go through and tag these as appropriate.
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  • Keyword tags in PSE 2.0?

    Can I add keyword tags in PSE 2.0?

    Way back in version 2.0, there were separate programs called Photoshop Album, and Photoshop Elements. Purchasing one did not give you the other.
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    If the question is really about Photoshop Album 2, the answer is definitely YES ... but ... it might be a good idea to upgrade to a more recent program, because at some point, PSA2 will not run on your new computer with a new operating system, and people have reported difficulty translating PSA2 tags to more current versions of Photoshop Elements software.

  • PSE 9 Organizer Keyword tags

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    Back to the original question, after thinking about this for a couple days I have had two ideas for workarounds:
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  • Compare 'Folder tags' to imported Keyword Tags

    I have asked questions about thumbnails in PSE11 that aren't being correctly displayed ,but I have yet to get any answers.
    I though perhaps I should breakdown the problem into easier component to see if I can get to understand just what is going on & be able to fix the problem myself.
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    Hi,
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  • Copy File From One Drive to Another & Missing Keyword Tags

    Hi,
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  • Keyword tags text box poorly designed, crashes PSE 8

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  • Currently have 30K pics on PC Win. 7 laptop using  PSE 8, corrected issues and did full backup on portable hard drive plus saved (Extensive) Keyword tags to file.  Installed PSE 13 on PC Win 8.1 laptop.  Will attach same portable Hard drive to new laptop.

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