Keywords and albums

After a recent crash I had to reinstall elements 6. Now the keyword and album pallette controls are really slow. Dragging icons onto one or one hundred selected images isn't a problem, but if I attempt to expand or collapse the keyword window it takes forever and puts an enormous load on the cpu. Any ideas?

Yes, I tied that to no avail. To be more specific: not only do the keyword and album windows (or whatever you call them) take a long time to expand or collapse...the same is true of the individual keyword categories, i.e. 'people', 'places' etc. Also the entire organizer takes longer than it should to open. I think this is because it's opening the keywords etc. as part of starting up. In the windows task manager elements cpu usage jumps to 50% or more as it's laboring away at these malfunctioning operations.
Thanks for your interest,
Dave K.

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I have new imac with iPhoto 7.1. I'd like to import the keywords and albums along with the pics from my old imac and iphoto 5. Photos import, but not tags or albums. Any suggestions?

Roy
The trick is not to import, but to update.
Copy the library from the old mac to the new one, then hold down the option (or alt) key and launch iPhoto. Select 'Choose Library' and point iPhoto at this old one and it will update it to a v7 library, including albums and keywords.
If you already have a new library on your new machine, then use iPhoto Library Manager to merge them or to move the pics from the older to the newer.
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How to restore keywords and albums in PE10?

My computer had to be reformatted with the operating system re-loaded (Vista). I reloaded PE 10 and then moved my saved photos back into the software. the problem is that all of my tags (various family and friends) seem to have disappeared completely from the Organizer as has an album I painstakingly set up. I have all the photos, but a subset of them are not organized into the album I created.
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Also, the various versions edited versions of the photos, which were stacked, have disappeared. How do I recover them?
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All of the data that you apply to images in the Organizer (keywords, albums, stacks, etc) are saved as part of a database catalog file. The question at this point is whether this file was also backed up and if so, you will need to restore it.
The default location of the catalog can be found here, but I'm unsure how this would be applied to your backup software: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/elementsorganizer/using/WSae2ea3b149d0c3591ae939f103860b3d59-7 f59_WIN.html#WSae2ea3b149d0c3591ae939f103860b3d59-7f58_WIN

Whats the difference between and Album and a Smart Album

OK, just upgraded.... So, whats the difference between an Album and a Smart Album?
Also, I like to organise my stuff, so if I create a folder for each year, and then a project within that year, why is it that the photos are always in both - and then again if I chose to create an album specific to a project, they are there again.
So it might look:
          Folder (2012 Equine Photography)
               Project - Specific Events
                    Album - Big Barn Dressage May
Does this mean the individual photo is stored 3 times and using 3 times the space?
Thanks guys!

Mrsthebraggster wrote:
So it might look:
          Folder (2012 Equine Photography)
               Project - Specific Events
                    Album - Big Barn Dressage May
Does this mean the individual photo is stored 3 times and using 3 times the space?
No. Conceptually the Master only lives lives in the single (time based) Project you import it into. Albums are just collections of pointers that point to images in various Projects.
"Big Barn Dressage May" could be a Project, but only if it is only one day and a limited number of image files; otherwise an Album. "2012 Equine Photography" should be an album or a Folder of Albums. "Specific Events" could be an Album or a Folder of Albums.
A Project should not be used as a Folder.
From an earlier post of mine:
Folders are indeed flexible organizational tools but IMO often overused. Folders can effectively hide contents from view and therefore require users to remember how folders are nested and what is inside them. Folders were the only way to deal with single-original film, but are IMO limiting to image database thinking.
The way I look at it conceptually:
Aperture is a database (DB), and each image file lives in one Project.
Albums are just collections of Pointers that point to individual image files living in one or more Projects. Since they just contain pointers, albums can be created or deleted at will without affecting image files. Very powerful. And Albums of pointers take up almost zero space, so they are fast and do not make the Library size grow.
Keywords can be applied to every image separately or in batches. Keywords are hugely powerful and largely obviate the need for folders. Not that we should never use folders, just that we should use folders only when useful organizationally - - after first determining that using keywords and albums is not a better approach.
As one example imagine the keyword "flowers." Every image of a 100,000 images Library that has some flowers in it has the keyword flowers. Then say we want to put flowers in an ad, or as background for a show of some kind, or to print pix for a party, or even just to look for an image for some other reason. We can find every flower image in a 100k-image database in 2 seconds, and in another few seconds create an Album called "Flowers" that points to all of those individual images.
Similarly all family pix can have a keyword "family" and all work pix can have a key word "work." Each individual pic may have any number of keywords. Such pic characteristics (work, family, flowers, etc.) should not be organized via folders.
So by using keywords and albums we can have instant access to every image everywhere, very cool. And keywords and albums essentially take up no space in the database.
Another approach is to use a folder "Family" for family pix, a folder "Flowers" for flowers pix and another folder "Work" for work pix. IMO such folders usage is a very poor approach to using an images database (probably stemming from old paper or film work practices). Note that one cannot put an image with family in a field of flowers at a work picnic in all three folders; but it is instant with keywords.
HTH
-Allen

What first - rollnames, comments, keywords, or albums?

I'd like an idea how to get started with organizing approx. 20,800 pics (they are on the drive and ready to go!). The current roll names arent the greatest and really arent organized - but if I am making albums, etc. I dont think that matters,right?
Do you go through and create comments FIRST for all (every one) of the pictures? Do you then go back and create abums? Do you drag EVERY picture into an album? Do you create keywords on the fly?
I was thinking this, but it seems to make double or even triple the work -- ??
1-view images by date and delete duplicates (almost done with this)
2-unknown dates - change to 1/1/1990 12:00:00AM to manually change individual files later (old camera had imprint on image)
3-start writing comments for the images
4-create smart albums base on comment field (ex: each family member) - but this seems like I have to retype the name too many times for pictures!
5-create albums for images and drag into album
This just doesnt seem right! I have lots of photos of my kids, festivals in Japan (different locations), and other 'big events' in life where there are series of photos.
Tips and direction?? Thanks in advance.

My last data base system had an overload of keywords - it was out of control. I'd like to keep it really basic and then just breakdown those categories to create albums. Smtr - you can select two or more images and "batch" them with Title, Comment, or Date correction!! I have been doing that and it works great. It even keeps the last one entered in the field selected (Title, Date, Comment) so you can reuse it over and over when you click OK.
Thanks for the insight on the film rolls. I noticed the description field too. I think for me it is double work right now, maybe triple. I would be creating the roll descriptions AND the comments AND albums with some of the same text. It's one of those thoughts... what comes first? The chicken or the egg? From here on out I will name the rolls and add descriptions to make future organizing a snap. Because I had to import chunks of photos, the rolls are not a reliable means to find photos for me. Hmmm. Now that I think of it, maybe this will not be a reliable method at all without some major effort. Do you see? Right now I am organizing pics with keywords and albums. Next I would have to go back and then reorganize all of them into rolls. That is counterproductive. I need to view my photos by date due to the lack of roll organization. I also feel like the roll view is limited - I wish it would appear in the left side of the screen with the other stuff.
Thanks for your feedback. It helped me see if my method was going in the right direction. I think it is. I hope this is honestly the last time I have to reorganize this 20,000 pic database FOREVER. LOL I didnt want to get through 10-20% of the filing and realize it was totally the wrong direction and unusable.
I am discovering little tidbits along the way. It really "comes to you" once you are working with the program and find your niche. It is a beauty!

How do I sort by Keywords and Rating at the same time?

Hi guys,
I know this is probably basic, but I have put keywords to a recent trip to Argentina and star rated the ones I enjoyed the most. Now I want to see pictures from Argentina (keyword), in the mountains (another keyword) and that are rated with 5 stars .
Could someone please give me a hand?
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file menu ==> new smart album
Meets all criteria
My rating is ★★★★★
Keyword is Argentina
keyword is mountains
LN

Another way to look at Events and albums (smart and dumb)

Maybe this will help others, but I had an epiphany regarding iPhoto 08 and the organizational method (or lack there of) in regards to Events and albums, etc.
Here it goes: iPhoto is now iTunes for pictures. I know it has been said before, but this time it truly is.
When you import a CD with iTunes, it creates a directory of songs in your library. When you import a group of pictures in iPhoto, it similarly imports them as an event. Events = CD's, plain and simple.
Think of searching for photos the same way you would search for songs. By typing in the artist, the album the specific title - etc you can easily find a song. With events, all the pictures are linked to the title of the event, so searching is very easy and fast.
Gone are the days of complicated hierarchy systems in Winamp or iPhoto 06. If you want a photo, you type the name of the event - or a keyword tagged into the photo.
But say you want some albums of specific songs, or in this case, photos. You can create albums or smart albums to accomplish this for quick access. Or maybe a Christmas album that automatically updates with every christmas photo entered and tagged.
I am an Aperture user and all my folders are setup like this:
Vacations --> Beach --> Florida --> 2007
If I switched to iPhoto, they will be created in a simple event, for example:
Florida Beach Vacation 2007
Now every picture within that event name would be searchable by typing in florida, beach etc. Even deeper, by tagging individual photos by the person's name or any other photo-specific info, these pics would even be more searchable.
Anyway, I hope this helps some people grasp the new concepts of organization in iPhoto 08. Surely it can be done several different ways, but I think this may be the best way to do it.

Events = CD's, plain and simple.
Great analogy! May I then add,
Albums = playlists
I see people here asking why a photo can't be in an album and in No event; perhaps the iTunes analogy would be helpful to them. If you don't have the song in your library (because you don't have that CD) then you can't put it in a playlist. (Nevermind that you can download single songs now - it doesn't fit the analogy. Remember when you had to buy the hard copy.)
Thanks for the information.
Regards.

How do I get my iPhoto 4 images and albums into iPhoto5?

Thought for sure I would find a FAQ listing for this but can't find it anywhere. I copied all my albums and images from CD back up into iPhoto5. But when I log out and log in and open iPhoto5 none of my old images and albums are there. I do see imported libraries for 2002, 2003, 2004 but they are empty. Sorry if this question is redundant (which I'm sure it is) but since I can't find a FAQ file anywhere…
Also, I have a G5 iMac at home and a dual G5 at work. Any way to specify which is which in profile

Richard:
So you only have jpg files on those CDs, right? There are no other data files, album folder, etc. in there.
I copied all my albums and images from CD back up into iPhoto5.
By that do you mean you dragged them from the CDs into the open iPhoto window? If you dragged them into the iPhoto Library folder then that's the wrong way to do it. You must import the image files into iPhoto from outside the iPhoto Library folder. Along those lines here are two Apple KB documents that you should be aware of, particularly the second one:
iPhoto Library Description
Don't tamper with files in the iPhoto Library folder from the Finder
What happened to your original iPhoto 4 library folder? Do you still have it intact? If you do then you can place it in your Pictures folder, launch iPhoto 5 and it will find it and tell you it needs to convert the library to version 5. Once done you should have your library converted you'll have everything back up and running, including the albums, rolls, keywords, etc.

Working with projects and albums in the browser

I have already posted a question about how to find a project or album. If you have TONS of projects and albums how do you find a specific one in the browser? I cannot see any way to sort other than alphabetically and there is no way to search project or album names.
By the same token, and this is my new question, how do you easily display in the viewer all the files in a project? (a project may contain albums with images that are not stored on the root level of that project, so highlighting the project in the browser does not display them). Or similarly, how do you display in the viwer the images contained in several albums? There eseems to be no way to simultaneaously selct albums or projects. You can have several tabs open but not see the images together in the viewer. In fact to make a slide show off all the images in one project you have to create an album and manually put in all the images.
Similarly, there is no way of making a smart album of all the images in a project or determined albums, which would have been a work around for all these issues.....
Am I missing something really obvious????????? It all seems so basic. Even iphoto lets you do these things! HELP, APPLE!!!!!!!!
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Hola Francisco,
Aperture is a much more powerful software than iPhoto and it's crucial to understand the way its library works to get the most of its organization capabilities.
Master images can only be placed (physically) inside projects. These are then image containers. An album only has links to images, and this links can go to any project. So even if an album is inside a project it could be displaying images that are not inside that project but somewhere else (if you drag and drop from other project previously).
On the project panel, projects are display in alphabetical order, but you can also use blue folders to organize projects. My project panel is organized as follows:
Project '1. Imports': A project created to automatically recieve all the photos when a card is inserted in my card reader. I use a hot folder with automator for this.
Blue folder '2. Smart Albums': This blue folder has all the smart albums I need to quickly find any image in the library.
Blue folder '3. Work': This folder has all the projects related to my work.
Blue folder '4. Travel': Contains projects of my travel photography divided by country.
Blue folder '5. Portrait': Contains projects of portrait sessions.
Blue folder '6. Social & Events': Contains projects of differents events I shoot.
Project '7. Templates': Contains photoshop templates to create 9 in 1 frames, etcetera.
As you can see I use numbers in front of every name to keep them in the order I want. Then the metadata does the rest, I add keywords to easily find ANY image in seconds, doesn't matter how long I did it.
A Smart album will search inside the whole Library if you create it at 'All images' level, then you can drag it to a folder to organize them if you want.
I'd recommend the book by Ben Long and Orlando Luna, it made me squeeze all the potential of Aperture, way beyond the manual that came with the program.

Where are my photos and albums?

Hello,
I had over 1200 photos in IPhoto and they’re all gone! When I opened IPhoto, it looked like it had never been used and there are no photos are in the trash bin.
This is what happened, I was deleting a few things in HP Gallery trying to clean things up and I had to leave my home to do an errand. When I got back and opened IPhoto, all of the photos and albums were gone.
Luckily, I have a back up file with all the photos, but I no longer have any of the albums. Here are the files I believe I deleted from HP Gallery: Library.IPhoto, Thumb 32.data, Thumb64.data, and ThumbJPG.data. Do any of these files have anything to do with the missing photos and albums? If so, can I restore IPhoto with the albums?
I have spent hundreds on hours scanning family photos and creating albums in IPhoto to give to family members. The thought of sorting through 1200 plus photos, trying to recreate these family albums is depressing. What could of happened?
All comments appreciated!!!
Ibook G4 Mac OS X (10.4.2)
Ibook G4 Mac OS X (10.4.2)

Hi don,
You run into problems when you have another program accessing iPhoto's important files.
The Library.iPhoto contains all your album info plus much more. The Thumb files can be recreated on a rebuild. If you trashed the first file, then no you cannot get your album info back.
Two Apple kbs for you to read
Don't tamper with files in the iPhoto library folder
About the iPhoto Library folder
You will have to create a new library by following the next directions:
Close iPhoto
Rename your messed up iPhoto Library to "iPhoto Library_old"
Drag this library to your desktop
Hold down the Option key and launch iPhoto
This is the window you will get
Create a new library or choose a library to open
Choose to create a new library
Once this new empty library is open it is time to import the images from your old library
Go to File>add to library
Navigate to the old library on your desktop and choose it.
iPhoto will start importing the images from your old library
This is what to expect:
Your images will be imported in nice dated rolls. (make sure your view is set to sort by rolls to see it) There are a couple of caveats to this. You will get rolls named "Originals" These rolls will contain your video clips and your original images that you had edited. If you had RAW files they would be in those rolls too (I don't do RAW, so I don't know for sure) Delete what you don't want from those rolls. You will also get the jpeg pointer files to your video clips imported. They will just be jpegs and will not point to the video clips anymore as iPhoto made new ones when the clips were imported again. You can delete those. they should be in a roll right next to the newly imported video clips so they are not hard to find. The thumbnail files don't get imported as iPhoto makes new ones when the images are imported.
Once all you images have been imported, check through the library and make sure everything looks ok.
You can now start making your Albums, and do your keywords or any other organizational steps.
You can also delete the old library on the desktop.
It is also a good time to backup this new library to CD/DVD by burning the iPhoto LIbrary folder in the Finder, or copying the iPhoto Library folder to an external drive formatted for Macs, or copying the iPhoto LIbrary folder to an iPod.
Good luck!
Lori

Keeping keywords and rating 'stars' a permanent part of RAW files

I store RAW files on a portable HD.
I use it for both desktop and laptop.
Keywords and rating 'stars' entered on one machine do not appear when using the other.
How can i make the keywords and rating 'stars' transferrable from one machine to another?

I had a chance to talk to product managers from both Apple & Adobe about this at PhotoPlus Expo in NYC a couple years back. Both seemed receptive, but here we are - years later - no progress.
I think part of the problem is that there's a purist mentality about RAW files. One should always shoot them - and then keep them forever- after all- they're your negatives!
But what about event photography? Or weddings, as you pointed out? It makes no sense to burden your workflow & backup system with 4GB of RAW files of people grinning into the camera. Once the adjustments have been made, the RAW files are just a ball & chain on your data management. And let's not forget, once you really know what you're doing, your jpegs should be good most of the time anyway.
I want RAW files as a safety net for errors in exposure and white balance. Once I know I have good photos, I don't need the safety net anymore- at least not at the price of all that hard disk space and transfer time for online backup. Of course, for my fine art stuff and important documentary work, I'll always keep the RAWs permanently. But not for routine parties/events.
You put your finger on the problem with re-importing jpegs as a solution. You lose your metadata- rankings/album memberships, etc. This is no solution!
What I want is simple, and it would be immediately useful to countless photographers:
1) Let me batch-delete RAW files when the jpegs are ok.
2) Let me do adjustments on my RAW file, render out a high-quality jpeg, and make the jpeg my new master.
Whoever does this first - Aperture or Lightroom - that's the product I'll use.

HELP! Recovered iphotolibrary lost ALL events and albums?!

Without a clear reason and absolutely no warning, iPhoto (on my brand new MacBookPro with all current updates etc.) suddenly showed '0' photos in my <80t photo library. After the itinial panic I was able to 'recover' the photos with 'recover library' option by Option+open. To my shock the entire photo library has been 'recovered' in a single 'recovered photos' event. Total catastrophe.. Could someone please have an idea how to get iPhoto to find the previous event and album hierarch? Grateful for ANY tips out there. Thank you!!

You can try rebuild with iPhoto Library Manager
Download iPhoto Library Manager and use its rebuild function. (In early versions of Library Manager it's the File -> Rebuild command. In later versions it's under the Library menu.)
This will create an entirely new library. It will then copy (or try to) your photos and all the associated metadata and versions to this new Library, and arrange it as close as it can to what you had in the damaged Library. It does this based on information it finds in the iPhoto sharing mechanism - but that means that things not shared won't be there, so no slideshows, books or calendars, for instance - but it should get all your events, albums and keywords, faces and places back.
Because this process creates an entirely new library and leaves your old one untouched, it is non-destructive, and if you're not happy with the results you can simply return to your old one.
If that doesn't help then there is no fix, I'm afraid.

Smart Folder and Album option

I'm trying to make a Smart Folder inside a project where have all the photos that are not inside any album. Is it possible?
thank you!
max

no. it's not possible with Aperture. you'll have to work around this limitation.
in my library, I use keywords including one ' unidentified'. when I decide to place an image into a smart album, I first apply the appropriate keyword and then remove (shift-click the keyword control button) the ' unidentified' keyword.

Keyword window does not show all keywords and cannot be resized

I have hundreds of keywords in my iPhoto library. I used to use bullstorm's keyword manager to add keywords to my photos and filter my photos when looking for something specific. With iPhoto '11, this plugin no longer works. That is not apple's fault. However, now that I have to use iPhoto's inherent keyword manager, I have found what I think is a very frustrating bug.
If you have hundreds of keywords and you try to use iPhoto's filter mechanism - click on Search in the lower toolbar, then click on 'keyword' to bring up the keyword window - the following happens. The popup window only has 4 columns of keywords and cannot be resized. In my window, I have so many keywords that the keyword window flows off the screen, obstructing any keyword starting with a-i. I only see keywords starting with the letter i-z. It is thus impossible for me filter my search by any keyword starting with a letter at the beginning of the alphabet. I have the biggest iMac screen, so this is not just a laptop or small screen issue.
I think in order for this keyword function to be useful, this bug needs to be fixed. The window should either be scrollable or resizable.
Please apple - fix this!!!

Please apple - fix this!!!
I quite agree, but Apple aren't here. There are only other Users here. It's all explained in the Trms of Use.
iPhoto menu -> Provide iPhoto Feedback is the route to the developers.
And, of course, in the meantime, Smart Albums will work.
Regards
TD

I turned on my macbook pro and ALL my libraries and albums are gone from iPhoto, any ideas

I turned on my macbook pro and ALL my libraries and albums are gone from iPhoto, any ideas
I already tried the hold down option command key and rebuild, didn't work
HELP PLEASE
no I do not have a bckup

What size if the Library as indicated in the Finder? If it's large enough to be holding your photos then your photos are probably still in there but the library is damaged. If the tags you used indicate iLife 11 then try the following:
Using iPhoto Library Manager to Rebuild Your iPhoto Library
Download iPhoto Library Manager and launch.
Click on the Add Library button,
navigate to your Home/Pictures folder and select your iPhoto Library folder.
Now that the library is listed in the left hand pane of iPLM, click on your library and go to the Library ➙ Rebuild Library menu option
In the next window name the new library and select the location you want it to be placed.
Click on the Create button.
Note 1: This creates a new library based on the LIbraryData.xml file in the library and will recover Events, Albums, keywords, titles and comments. However, books, calendars, cards and slideshows will be lost.
Note 2: your current library will be left untouched for further attempts at a fix if so desired.
If the above falils to recover your photos continue with this:
Starting over from scratch with new library
Start over with a new library and import the Originals (iPhoto 09 and earlier) or the Masters (iPhoto 11) folder from your original library as follows:
1. Open the library package like this.
2. Launch iPhoto with the Option key held down and, when asked, select the option to create a new library.
3. Drag the subfolders of the Originals (iPhoto 09 and earlier) or the Masters (iPhoto 11) folder from the open iPhoto Library package into the open iPhoto window a few at a time.
This will create a new library with the same Events (but not necessarily the same Event names) as the original library but will not keep the metadata, albums, books slideshows and other projects.
Note: your current library will be left untouched for further attempts at a fix if so desired.
OT

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