Keywords and labels vanish CS2 to CS3

Hi i just installed Photoshop CS3 on my brand new Mac (had CS2 on windows)
Now on Bridge, all the keyword list that i created in CS2 and the labels have disappeared...
Is this normal and how can i get them back?
hope you can help, thanks
yasmine
http://web.mac.com/yasminesamiry

cs3 will probably just ask you to insert the cs2 disc to verify that it's a legitimate upgrade. i don't think you need to actually install cs2.

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