Keywords and subordinates Aperture 3.4

I have Aperture 3.4.3. When I try to create a Keyword and a subordinate and tag the photo with the subordinate, only the subordinate tag appears on the photo and not the Parent Key Word. For instance, I type Bird as a Keyword, add Cardinal as a subordinate, but when I tag a photo with the Keyword Cardinal the keyword Bird does not appear. I am following the instructions from "Aperture 3 - The Portable Genius". Something tells me I am bypassing the obvious, but I cannot fiogure out what it is.
Thanks for any light you can shine on this.

For instance, I type Bird as a Keyword, add Cardinal as a subordinate, but when I tag a photo with the Keyword Cardinal the keyword Bird does not appear. The keyword "Bird" will not be shown, to save space, but it is inherited. If you do a smart search for "Bird", you will find all your "Cardinals". For example, searching for the keyword "Birds", will turn up all Cardinals as well:
Regards
Léonie

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I am getting the opposite result. I have lost a lot of my keywords and various other data input in Bridge. Is there a setting I'm missing? I also put in Country name, city, state, contact, etc. in my Brdige metadata, but this is not importing with the RAW files. I am referencing images if that matters, although it shouldn't.
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I also used Bridge/ACR to rate and add keywords to RAWS (Canon) and also used Adobe DNG converter to make DNG files from these.
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