Keywords in Metadata of original pictures files

I have added a number of keywords to a group of photos. I have not exported them. They are still on my hard drive in the original location that I imported them from. I imported with the option to leave the photos where they were. When I go to look at the photos in that original location the metadata information has not changed - no keywords added.
The ones I exported do show the metadata. What do I need to do to get the keywords to show in the Metadata without the need to export them?
Thanks!
Mary Ellen

I am absolutely and totally stymied since I thought I understood this. At this point with new pictures taken with a camera, I can read the IPTC data written by Lightroom ONLY in Adobe products. I have like 6 other programs that read metadata and they see nothing that Lightroom writes for THESE PICTURES.
I now have three classes of images, at least.
1) Scanned images where I wrote the "capture date" and "digitized date" in EXIF plus some IPTC data with the program exifer. The metadata was imported correctly into Lightroom and still shows in both Lightroom and Exifer, as well as any other metadata viewing program. The metadata that is displayed is that written originally by exifer as well as additional info added in Lightroom.
I don't seem to be able to reproduce this now. Most of these scanned images do not show the LR metadata outside of Adobe products.
2) Scanned images where I wrote the capture date and digitized date and maybe no IPTC data, not sure. Exifer finds no IPTC data in these files but Bridge does.
3) Images from a camera. The metadata in these are only from the camera and Lightroom. Camera metadata is of course visible, but NOTHING shows for IPTC data in any programs except Adobe programs.
I am very tired of this problem since I spent many many hours on it trying to understand the Lightroom capture date problem with scanned images. Now I'm spending more time because it is clear that Lightroom is doing something that other programs don't understand. Lightroom is clearly writing stuff out. At least sometimes. To add to the confusion, I KNOW that previously to yesterday Lightroom happily wrote out on demand (Metadata/XMP/Export XMP metadata to file), but yesterday I swear I'm not crazy, I couldn't even read such data in Adobe products like Bridge. So I set the default to always write. Sigh, that overwrote every single image in my database (thank goodness I only have about 7000 in now), causing me to have to back them all up last night. But the metadata became visible in Bridge and Photoshop CS2.
This morning, not believing that Lightroom really doesn't write out on demand, I took a few pictures so these would be absolutely pristine, loaded them in, tagged them, turned off Automatically write changes to XMP in preferences and did Metadata/XMP/Export XMP metadata to file. I saw the little progress bars and sure enough, the information is visible in Bridge. But of course not any of the other exif viewing and editing programs. I have no idea if or why the write metadata on demand did not appear to work yesterday. I'm going to forget I saw that.
I am now (again) convinced that I can write metadata out with Lightroom. Whether I can read it later is another question. Lightroom seems to be fairly forgiving as to metadata and will accept what I write in other programs. (Except for dates, which is definitely screwed up and it won't even properly accept some dates written in Elements. But that's a whole 'nother 12 threads in this forum!)
I did one more test. I wrote some IPTC metadata with Bridge into an otherwise pristine camera photo. Lightroom can read it, of course. So can my other metadata reading and editing programs. So Bridge writes IPTC metadata that is readable by other programs.
Depressing and interesting is the fact that when I write additional IPTC information to this image in Lightroom, only Bridge and Photoshop can see the LR written info. The other programs can still see what Bridge wrote, but nothing that LR writes shows up.
When you EXPORT the files, the metadata is written so other programs can read it. ARGHHH!
This is pretty depressing news. I see metadata as very important -- to me the most important thing I want Lightroom to do for me, the reason I bought it. I was previously convinced that it was being written out properly, but all of my previous tests were apparently scanned images and not that thorough even with those. I only resorted to writing metadata outside of LR because of LR's deficiencies. But I failed to recognize the additional Lightroom metadata problems. Actually, I did see other problems earlier but somehow convinced myself that the other programs had a cache or whatever.

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Hi, everyone.
As I have started to use Bridge to browse files in my system including those that are not image files I tried to find information on how Bridge handles the assignment of keywords and metadata to these files but couldn't find anything on Adobe's site.
Considering non-image files such as PDF's, MS Office (Word, Excel), Text, HTML, and others, how does Bridge handles the assignment of metadata and keywords ? Where are they stored ? Embedded in the files themselves or in a sidecar file similar to what happens to RAW image files ?
I've read some posts from other users about problems with this. Some report that they are able to assign keywords but these aren't maintained once the file is re-saved.
Is there a manual on Adobe's site that covers the handling of keywords and metadata in Bridge ?
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Joe,
Being a digital archivist dealing primarily with pages digitized from the turn of the 20th Century for a religious sect I am highly involved in the usage of keywords. Each page of a work, be it either a volume of a newspaper or a book, contains keywords. I do not use side-car files but instead incorporate my keywords directly into the resultant TIF file.
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Well...Thanks Apple for censoring and deleting my previous discussion which DID contain useful and constructive information for many people who are trying to track down their photos in Iphoto. I didn't realize how strongly censored this forum is. I guess I shouldn't rant about it, or this will also get deleted.
Once again, if anyone is trying to find their original picture files, open a Finder window > Places / your user name / Pictures / Iphoto Library ( Left click and select "Show Package Contents" / Originals.
Also: as an Apple Forum user tip: Don't be too critical of the Apple products or your post will be deleted.
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Don't use iPhoto.
iPhoto is a Photo Manager. It's designed to work like, say the AddressBook on your computer. Think of it this way:
Add all your addresses to the Addressbook. Edit them, group and organise them as you will.
If you need to access an address then simply use the tools built-in to every app in your Mac to do so - like the email or mail merge features and so on.
*some where on the HD is all that information, but you wouldn't try and find that file, would you? You'd access the data via the Address Book application or the various hooks written into the Applications that integrate with it.
Now, repeat swapping out the word 'address' for the word 'Photos'
Add all your Photos to the iPhoto. Edit them, group and organise them as you will.
If you need to access an Photo then simply use the tools built-in to every app in your Mac to do so - like the Media browser. These are detailed here:
For help accessing your photos in iPhoto see this user tip:
https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-4491
This User Tip
https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-4921
has details of the options in the Export dialogue.
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So I would do a batch export of highest quality JPEGs
of all these master files, and import those into
iPhoto. I'd then rate, keyword, comment, and organize
the photos in iPhoto. If I ever wanted to go back and
make a 13x19-inch print, I'd use iPhoto to
find the file (via metadata such as keywords,
date, album, comments, etc.), then use that filename
to go back and find the original raw (or PSD) file
and print from that.
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I did a fairly similar thing, as I think did a lot of people.
However, what if I want to bring my old images into
Aperture? I'll import the iPhoto library, and get the
benefit of all the metadata tagging (ratings,
keywords, etc.), but still have to go back to and
separately import the directories of original
raw files. But then the JPEGs and the raws are not
associated in any way.
I have not changed any filenames, so the JPEGs and
raws have exactly the same filenames except for their
extension. Is there any way in Aperture to associate
them with each other, or automatically apply the
metadata from the JPEGs to the raw files? An
Automator action maybe?
Well, I have an idea that might help...
Try importing both JPG and RAW files into the same project. Then view all the files in the project, and auto-stack... sicne the JPG and RAW files were taken together they should group, I am guessing in the same way for all of them (RAW on one side of the stack, JPG on the other).
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Why is it that even after editing a picture under iPhoto, the original picture is still the file that is being exported?

because you are exporting the original?
SInce you give us no information at all we can only guess and that is the most likely
How are you editing the photo - iPhoto? An external editor? How?
how are you exporting?
Remember we are users just like you - not psychics
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Since I no longuer have confidence in iPhoto I would like to export my photo's including the date and keywords in the metadata of the images.
Did somebody find a way to do that?

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This method will permit you to bring over your image files, keywords, comments, rolls and album organization into a new folder system totally managed by iView Media Pro.
1 - Launch iView and create a new catalog file.
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6 - Now select all the photos in the catalog and select the Action->Sync Annotations menu item. In the next window click on the Export annotations to original files option. When complete do another Save.
The next steps are designed to copy the photos out of the iPhoto Library folder into a folder system that is similar to what you see in iPhoto, i.e. a new folder for each roll.
7 - Open a roll and select all of the photos inside. (if youve edited any photos and want to export the originals instead of the edited version select the File->Revert to Original menu option beforename).
8 - Then select the Share->Export menu item. Click of the File Export tab and the Full -size images radio button.
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10 - Export those files to a folder on the desktop thats been named the same as the roll. Then place that roll where you ultimately will want to keep it. (I suggest you create a folder to contain all of the newly created folders and name it appropriately).
11 - repeat Step 10 for each roll in your library.
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In Photoshop 11, when I create a new Album name or category, do I need to choose "Save Albums to File"? Do I need to do something similar with Keyword tags "Save keyword tags to file"? If I don't do this, would I lose my album names and keyword tags when I upgrade to a new Photoshop program? What about my photo captions? How are those saved? Do I need to select all the photos in the album before I do this?
Also, under File, if I select "Save Metadata to Files", exactly what is saved?
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In Photoshop 11, when I create a new Album name or category, do I need to choose "Save Albums to File"?
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I thought I should make a separate thread for my second LR file import question.
It seems that LR authors assumed that most users would download single events or projects but that isn't the case with me. I'm just an amateur with a Canon 30D and a 4 gb CF card. I can get hundreds of raw files on that card and many times I won't download the contents of the card to my computer until I have taken pictures at several different events. So I may have a birthday and a campout and some landscapes in the download and the same keywords or metadata may not apply to all of them. LR allows me to group these different events by date in different subfolders but it looks like the metadata/keywords that you can add at download apply not to individual subfolders but to the entire download, is that right? If I've misunderstood or overlooked something how do you apply different keywords or metadata to different subfolders at download?

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I have hundreds of keywords and metadata including Ratings and Labels using CS4 and Bridge CS4.
It is time to replace my PPC Mac with a new Intel Mac.
I am going to install CS6 on the new Intel Mac without installing CS4.
By default.... this eliminates ALL keywords and ratings and labels from my Bridge browser. The keywords will still be present on the files but Not present in Bridge keywords list and all ratings and labels will be lost.
Making a copy of Bridge CS4 metadata to another computer is quite simple.
Simply copy All of the Bridge CS4 application support folder to the other computer.
The question then becomes.... can I aslo do this with CS6 without introducing an incompatibility?
1. incompatible due to CS6 application support.
2. incompatible due to transfer from a PPC (APM) to Intel (GUID).
This concern results from an Bridge CS4 export problem I experienced.
Bridge CS4 will export all of your keywords and you can import them from a text file but it has some odd troubles. (try it and you will see)
This does Not mean that CS6 has the same troubles.
What do I require to preserve existing metedata and keywords that exist on a PPC using CS4 and import them into CS6 using Intel?
Sound simple?
I doubt it.
The points are.
1. CS4 not installed.
2. CS4 source is PPC not Intel.
3. Ratings and Labels are metadata that Are Not part of the file metadata and unique to Bridge only.
4. Keyword Search and keyword Use requires that Bridge have keyword list, otherwise Finder is the far more useful browser and the new version of Bridge will require hours of keyword listing.
I don't want to spends hours retyping keywords lists in Bridge.

Ratings are NOT placed into the file under CS4 Bridge and neither are
Labels.
That depends on your file type and settings voor Camera Raw.
Like Curt stated usually metadata is written in to the file itself. Only Raw files can't be written to and by default they create a XMP file, also called Sidecar XMP files (and do have the same filename, only a different extension called .xmp). These files are also by default hidden in Bridge but If you use Bridge to move files they travel along with the original.
If you move or copy them using finder you have to be sure these XMP files are also copied with the originals to the new location.
Using the menu View / show hidden files should reveal the XMP files.
An other option for the Camera Raw prefs is to set metadata to the Camera Raw database instead of written to sidecar XMP files ( to my knowledge using sidecar files has been the default since about CS3).
Now here it becomes a bit tricky and I only can tell you my findings, not to be confused with true facts. (and mind you, it is at least 5 years ago I was on a PPC and not even remember which OSX 10 was able to work on it, I just present the acting of CS6 on an intel Mac Pro with OSX 10.7, but I don't believe the difference in location is that much)
Having written the Metadata to the Camera Raw Database your image settings get written to a file in the user library preferences folder called logically "Adobe Camera Raw Database". But also some info gets added to the Camera Raw Cache folder (User library / Caches/ Adobe Camera Raw) in a file called index.dat.
Also not having set metadata to xmp sidecars stores the ACR settings in a new .dat file with a unique number (not to be traced as a corresponding filename. And also the default maximum is set to 1 GB of space and when full the oldest files are overwritten with the new ones.
Personally I use converted DNG files that are capable of writing metadata to so all info and settings are in the file itself and I don't need to bother about central storage that can get lost. The downside is that changes to a DNG need to save the whole file instead of a small xmp file and probably reading cache takes more time then getting info from central storage but I like to be on the safe side and speed is not really needed to be nailed down to split seconds in my workflow.
Keywords are stored as a file in the Bridge preferences but Like Curt already stated exporting the old list first and then via the same route import again to CS6 should solve your problem and they will be back as persistent, otherwise the files in the content window show as italic and sadly enough have to be made persistent one by one with right click mouse menu, so that is not really an option for you.
Exporting the list does create a text file that can also be altered manually with a simple text app and as said, again be imported in newer versions as Curt described earlier.
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Simply copy All of the Bridge CS4 application support folder to the other computer.
Well, in fact it is true to call copying this folders a simple task but replacing the existing new CS6 would not be my method. The biggest change for Bridge CS6 was the transition to 64 bit and I lack the knowledge for this but also cache format for thumbs and previews has been different for every version.
But if you have located the CS4 folder for Bridge in your PPC user library / application support / Adobe / Bridge CS4 you should find a file called 'Adobe Bridge Keywords.xml' and it is fairly safe to replace this CS4 version with the new CS6 version.
Also custom settings for the output module can be copied (however to my memory the option for custom settings in Output where introduced in CS5) and collections can be copied.
So for your keywords the copy option might work, rating and labeling for Raw files they will be read in CS6 if they are stored as XMP. ACR settings idem but CS6 ACR has a new (2012) conversion mode that has different settings that do not work with previous settings (unless you first choose to use the 2010 conversion as default Raw setting.
If it is in the Central Data Base I would start trying to replace the CS4 with the CS6 edition (after back up of existing CS6 version) and see what happens. If it works your out of trouble.
You can also open the Camera raw Database as a text file but there is a lot of data in. Maybe scripting would be able to reveal those data and transfer to XMP but you have to visit the dedicated Scripting forum for this.
And while you state to have not installed CS4 anymore it might be wise to reinstall it (but first make a proper back up of the previous mentioned folders and files to be on the save side.
This gives you the opportunity to export keywords properly and if needed you can use Show Items from subfolders option with filter and set preferences to XMP sidecar to refresh the rating and labels to those XMP files. Just an escape route that might not be as painstakingly as it looks at first sight, just use the options for Bridge to filter.

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Hello,
My XMP metadata is lost from a PNG file if the file is modified and saved. Here is what I am doing
1. Put some metadata in a PNG file using m_xmpFile.OpenFile( FileName, kXMP_PNGFile , kXMPFiles_OpenForUpdate)
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Command-D provides info on the PDF itself but nothing on the image files' metadata. I create PDF docs inside Php CS4 if this is any help. If there is a way in Reader to display all image files' original file names simultaneously please clue me in.

ACR Makes Changes to Original RAW File

I think Ive seen this explained before, but it didnt, and still doesnt make any sense to me. Whenever I open a RAW image in ACR and make changes, including saving as a jpg to another folder, all the changes are made in my RAW file. Why does ACR do this? I keep reading that ACR does not do this, but it does (seem) to do this. The fix is to open the RAW image back up in ACR after I have saved the jpg, and undo all the changes. I shouldnt have to do this, and no other software Ive used to process RAW images does this. Im Baffled.
By the way, Im new to CS3, but come from years of using Paint Shop Pro and Nikon Capture.

Okay, it looks like I need to clarify my oxymoronic statement. First of all, I need to stipulate that I use XMP files with my raw images when I use the original original raw files and not DNG files. And since this is the Camera Raw forum I was talking specifically about raw images. So in that context of how I use raw files, the raw file is not changed at all. The metadata changes are stored in the external XMP file and the original raw file remains unchanged. I might be wrong, but I have assumed that this is the way most people have their workflow established. But maybe I am wrong.
In the case of DNG files, ACR is able to write the metadata to the header of the DNG file without altering the picture data. Hopefully this will clarify my statement.
Yes, I also realize that Pentax and some other camera makers offer DNG as a native raw format. The same DNG statement that I made applies to those images as well.

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