Keywords "iPhoto Original - iPhoto Edited - iPhoto Flagged - iPhoto hidden"

Hi,
Messing about with keywords yesterday I see that the system had generated the following keywords presumably after it imported my iPhoto library using File / Import / iPhoto Library.
My question is does the system now in Aperture require these to stay or is it just a help to the user to know which were edited, flagged and original etc in iPhoto.
Is it safe to delete these key words?
Regards Charlie

Never an iPhoto user but my guess is just a help. Personally I would not bother to delete them until a year from now when I would know if they provided utility.
-Allen Wicks

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IPhoto: Original non-edited photos have replaced the edited ones

Hi! For the last few days, I have noticed that all of my edited photos in iPhoto show up unedited as when originally imported. Thankfully, when I click "Edit", the edited version still shows up, but only in edit-mode. Guess I could go through each of all my photos and make a slight readjustment just and save each image again, but hopefully some of you guys can help me out with an easier operation. I thought of refreshing my library, but somehow I couldn't find a way to do that. As I downloaded the latest iPhoto version an hour ago, I hoped that the problem would be solved through the refreshment of iPhoto that automatically popped up. But no. I need some help!
Thanks for you replies!

As a Test:
Hold down the option (or alt) key and launch iPhoto. From the resulting menu select 'Create Library'
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In Aperture go to: File>Import>iPhoto Library. Allan

Do referenced iPhoto pics reflect editing done in iPhoto?

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When you edit a photo in iPhoto it makes a new file. You then have two files, the Original and the Modified version.
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This is true regardless of whether you manage or reference the files in Aperture.
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Ir. Bob wrote:
A photo that was rotated in iPhoto will also show up as iPhoto edited.
This is not what I found to be the case in a recent experiment using iPhoto11- I did repeat it to be sure.
https://discussions.apple.com/message/15586837#15586837
Quickly, what I found is that only the ones I did actual adjustments on brought over two images. Images that were simply rotated, had "quick fixes" or "Effects" did not bring in two images. More importantly, among the ones with adjustments that did bring in two images, the ones with the keyword "iPhoto Edited" appear to be nothing more than iPhoto's 6MB JPEG Previews. The master was a 25MB RAW image.
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Unable to Edit Photos in iPhoto '11 on when Original is Missing iPhotoDiet

When the Original is missing after running iPhoto Diet, iPhoto '11 is unable to edit the image at all.
This is unlike the behavior of iPhoto '09 and previous versions, which would make the current copy the new "Original".
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http://support.apple.com/kb/TA22873?viewlocale=en_US

When the Original is missing after running iPhoto Diet, iPhoto '11 is unable to edit the image at all.
That is correct - you must NEVER make any changes of any sort to the content or structure of the iPhoto library using third party programs that are not fully i{Photo aware and tested - and you certainly should never do any operations on the iPhoto library without a backup
This is unlike the behavior of iPhoto '09 and previous versions, which would make the current copy the new "Original".
iPhoto has NEVER done that to the best of my knowledge - iPhoto diet may have and may not with iPhoto '11 - that is a subject for iPhoto diet support - not iPhoto support
Can this be fixed by iPhoto or is there an way to manually make new "Originals" based on the current rotated photos?
No you must either put the library back exactly like it was, load your backup or start over
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA22873?viewlocale=en_US
What part of this warning did you not see as important?
To prevent this issue:
*Leave the contents of your iPhoto Library folder alone, and allow iPhoto to manage the images as designed.*
Update to iPhoto 5.0.1 or later. This update will prevent the loss of non-RAW images, but it does not eliminate issues with RAW files.
*Minimize the risk of image loss by keeping good backups:*
Export your current library as a backup copy.
*Back up new photos as soon as possible after taking them.*
If you already have good backup habits and copies of all your images outside of iPhoto, then obviously there is no need to export your current library. _*For those of you who haven't been backing up, exporting your current library will start you on the right path.*_
LN

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When you import you'll get a stack for any image that
you have edited in iPhoto. Your edited photo will be
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I am new to imac and have been editing photos with iphoto 11. After editing a photo I can see the edited photo, but how can I view the original?
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Thanks

If you want to see the original image then hold the shift key when in edit mode.
Also does iphoto keep all edited versions of a photo?
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Using Photoshop or Photoshop Elements as Your Editor of Choice in iPhoto.
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2 - double click on the thumbnail in iPhoto to open it in Photoshop. When you're finished editing click on the Save button. If you immediately get the JPEG Options window make your selection (Baseline standard seems to be the most compatible jpeg format) and click on the OK button. Your done.
3 - however, if you get the navigation window
Click to view full size
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NOTE: With Photoshop Elements 9 the Saving File preferences should be configured as shown:
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I also suggest the Maximize PSD File Compatabilty be set to Always. In PSE’s General preference pane set the Color Picker to Apple as shown:
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Iphoto import of Original and Edited Iphoto versions from Aperture

I am using Aperture to improve some of my IPhoto 2008 edited pics. I'm keeping my Iphoto pics in their current location and importing selected ones to Aperture that I want to edit further. Following import of an IPhoto album to Aperture I could see both 'IPhoto Original', and 'IPhoto Edited' versions (great!). For some pics I have further edited the 'original' and for others I've further edited the 'IPhoto edited' version. For a few I've used Aperture to further edit/improve BOTH versions.
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BW -- just wanted to underscore nathan's excellent but (likely) unwelcome and perhaps easily ignored advice:
Don't use both applications for storing your pictures or for photo editing.
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1. The programs (Aperture and iPhoto) are extremely different in concept and depth. Search the forum for some of those differences. Imho, Aperture takes 50x as long to learn as iPhoto. The curve is not steep, but it is long. Aperture is much more powerful than iPhoto.
PS: As soon as you can, get the largest fast internal drive you can afford. And make multiple back-ups of your Libraries. If you know you can always restore a Library, deleting one isn't terrifying.
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Fix #1
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Select the options identified in the screenshot.
Fix #2
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Click on the Create button.
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Edited photos in iPhoto disappear?

I frequently use iPhoto for photo editing and storage and have encountered few problems in the past 2 years. However.....
Some of my edited photos are disappearing! They show up as thumbnails in the event and elsewhere, but when I double click to see the image alone (in iPhoto), it shows up as a gray error symbol on a black screen. As this file is missing, I can't upload the photos to Flickr or do anything else with them.
When I revert the image back to its original, I can see it and upload it wherever I want, but as soon as I try to edit it again, it disappears.
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1 - delete the iPhoto preference file, com.apple.iPhoto.plist, that resides in your Home()/ Library/Preferences folder.
2 - delete iPhoto's cache file, Cache.db, that is located in your Home()/ Library/Caches/com.apple.iPhoto folder.
3 - launch iPhoto and try again.
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Fix #1
Launch iPhoto with the Command+Option keys held down and rebuild the library.
Select the options identified in the screenshot.
Fix #2
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Download iPhoto Library Manager and launch.
Click on the Add Library button, navigate to your Home/Pictures folder and select your iPhoto Library folder.
Now that the library is listed in the left hand pane of iPLM, click on your library and go to the File ➙ Rebuild Library menu option
In the next window name the new library and select the location you want it to be placed.
Click on the Create button.
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Hi,
I have scanned some old family photos and I am now trying to edit them (they are jpeg files). I've read many of the posts here and have followed every advice (newest iphoto version, rebuilt library, etc.....) Then I built the new library with a few of the scans imported and a few "regular" photos. Iphoto still crashes when trying to edit scans, but seems to be doing ok when editing the "regular" photos. Any advice?

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Fix #1
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2 - run Option #4 to rebuild the database.
Fix #2
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2 - click on the Add Library button and select the library you want to add in the selection window..
3 - Now that the library is listed in the left hand pane of iPLM, click on your library and go to the Library ➙ Rebuild Library menu option.
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5 - Click on the Create button.
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Iphone picts synced into iphoto but wont edit

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Fix #1
Launch iPhoto with the Command+Option keys held down and rebuild the library.
Select the options identified in the screenshot.
Fix #2
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