Keywords / Metadata on RAW+JPG

I shoot in RAW+JPG mode with my camera. I love the fact that Lr will show me the Raw files and the duplicate .Jpg's as 1 image. However I may have to turn on the "Treat .jpg's as separate files" button. When I add keywords to the .raw file, I need Lr to also apply that keyword to the duplicate .jpg. Is there a setting somewhere for this? I have the "Automatically write changes into XMP" checked...
Thanks
-Chris

This is the exact question. I just found thin in the forum & I'm going to keep searching but I'd like to ask if anybody knows if this has been addressed since late November.
I too shoot RAW + JPEG. I love that I only have to see one of them in LR. But, I want both files to be updated with the keywords I assign when I do "metadata save to file".
I'll keep searching the forums. If I find nothing I'll add it to the fearture request forum.
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