Keywords order Aperture

My keywords are in alphabetical order but somehow there is a second list of the keywords used while importing the images in Aperture. Is it possible to get one list in alphabetical order?
iMac Mac OS X (10.4.2)

If the keywords that are imported (in the <Imported Keyword> list) are as you would like to keep them (no rekeywording needed), then you can merge the lists by dragging the keywords from the imported list to wherever they belong. Aperture will give you a dialog and you can accept the mege.
You can avoid the extra list entirely if you remember to unlock the keyword HUD before you import.
Also, you can force Aperture to sort the displayed keyword HUD by simply pressing shift H to close it and shift H to open it.
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Migrating iPhoto keywords to Aperture Keywords

There seems to be a lot of confusion regarding iPhoto keywords in Aperture. Aperture seems to treat keywords imported from iPhoto differently to keywords assigned in Aperture. Does anyone know a way to get the iPhoto keywords to display in the Keyword HUD? I think once we've achieved that we could successfully migrate our keywords into Aperture, arrange them in hierarchies etc.
Would be good. Ideas?

You can add them manually to the Keyword HUD. Make a top-level keyword called "iPhoto" and put all the iPhoto keywords under it. You can then remove them and add them using the keyword buttons.

Searching for parent keywords only, Aperture 3

Hello everyone,
I want to search for images that have top-level keywords only, but not the child keywords. For example, if I have a 'birds' keyword with child keywords in it...
Birds
-Bald Eagle
-Heron
--Green Heron
--Blue Heron
-Pheasant
...if I keyword search for 'Birds', it brings up everything else in that birds category.
Normally this would be fine, but sometimes I don't know the name of birds in my photos, so I just assign them the generic keyword 'birds'. Occasionally, I would like to be able to go back to my 'birds' keyword, and find only those images that haven't been tagged with a deeper-level keyword.
Is this possible to do? I can't seem to find a way to do it. I appreciate any help.
-Jeff

I'm pretty sure Apple has actually improved the handling of parent keywords and the keyword hierarchy since 3.0 came out. It used to not really work at all.
Now it works as described in this thread. (Search on the parent keyword, and Aperture will find all images tagged with any of the children keywords.) This is, imho, very useful, and requires (I think) only one small user restriction to give Aperture the behavior most seem to expect from a nested (i.e.: hierarchical) keyword structure.
The "user restriction" is to give a special marker to parent keywords (to identify them as containers of keywords, separate from keywords), and to use these container keywords only as containers (that is, do not apply them to images).
I prefix all top-level containers with "aa.". This is arbitrary, but it has some reasons to recommend it:
. it forces the containers to the top of the keyword hierarchy
. it stands out without making the name harder to read at a glance
. the period allows one to double-click either the prefix or the suffix to select it in isolation
. it allows straightforward modification for hierarchy depth (see below).
In practice (using the example in this thread), the keyword hierarchy might be (as a starting point):
aa.Animals {top-level category}
bb.Birds {second-level category}
cc.Hawks {third-level category}
HawkUnspecified {child in third-level category}
HawkRedShouldered {child in third-level category}
HawkSharpshinned {child in third-level category}
{Etc.}
This immediately (afaict) solves several related usage problems. All hawk images show up when images are filtered for "Animals" or "Birds". One can easily search for "all hawks" or a specific hawk. One can easily tag hawks to be specified later, and easily recall those images. All the "Hawk" tags are gathered together alphabetically (as well as hierarchically) -- makes creating filters much easier. The Keyword HUD is much more useful as a reporting tool. (There is an added complexity: the keyword "HawkUnspecified" must be manually removed after the hawk is specified (a good use of a complex Smart Album).)
Additionally, this system allows for (IME) much easier maintenance of the Keyword list (renaming and moving).
#1 Keyword hint: use "{Option}+click" in the Filter HUD Keyword Rule to limit the selection to the clicked Keyword. Any time you filter on Keyword and don't get the result you expect, this is the first thing to check.
For me, Keyword use in Aperture is still very much a work in progress. Suggestions and comments are welcome.

IView Keywords to Aperture

Everyone:
I wrote a free script that automatically imports iView Keywords (for version 2.6.4 or 3.0.1 of iView MediaPro) into Aperture's Keywords HUD.
http://www.tow.com/software/iview-keywords-to-aperture/
The script will create new or append to existing keyword groups in Aperture.
Enjoy!
-adam

Everyone:
I wrote a free script that automatically imports iView Keywords (for version 2.6.4 or 3.0.1 of iView MediaPro) into Aperture's Keywords HUD.
http://www.tow.com/software/iview-keywords-to-aperture/
The script will create new or append to existing keyword groups in Aperture.
Enjoy!
-adam

Keyword Order Scrambled

Hi, I habitually use keywords to categorize my photos and like the keywords to appear in a particular order, which I define when I'm allocating them to photos. However, when I later (e.g. days or weeks) view the photos, I find that the order of the keywords has spontaneously changed. They are not presented alphabetically, just in some chaotic order. Does anyone know why iPhoto 'decides' to scramble my preferred keyword order? I've checked iPhoto preferences and there is nothing about keyword order there. I could understand it if the order became alphabetical, but it's not; just random, and highly irritating.
Brian Smale

I'm seeing the same thing. I think is has something to do with the order in which the keyword was created in the first place. I created a new keyword, AAAAAAA, and added it along with a number of others to a photo without any keywords. Initially the keywords were in the order that I added them, alphabetically. After closing and reopening the library the AAAAAAA was last in order for that photo.
Report it to Apple via http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphoto.html.
OT

Importing Lightroom 2 keywords into Aperture

Hi.
I just got Aperture but am currently using Lightroom 2 and am trying to switch over. I'm trying to find a way to export my photos from Lightroom and them import them into Aperture but still have the keywords attached to the photos so that I do not have to go through all of the photos and re-keyword them.
Thanks for any help!

I've got similar issue, but for me it's importing my photos from Digikam (Linux).
Digikam supports hierarchal tags (keywords) and stores them as ITPC keywords and, as noted by the OP, Aperture picks these up which is great. The problem/limitation is that ITPC keywords are flat so, in order to maintain the hierarchy, DK writes them to ITPC as '/' delimited.
For example, I have the following tag hierarchy in DK:
People
...Family
......Me
......Mo
......Tanya
......Tamzyn
A photo tagged in DK with Me and Tanya results in the following ITPC keywords:
People, People/Family, People/Family/Me, People/Family/Tanya
Aperture adds each of those as a discrete keyword which is OK as it means the metadata is retained, but is there anyway, scripting perhaps, to have Aperture recognize the '/' delimited keywords as a hierarchy (I've created the same hierarchy in Aperture)?
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Redgo,
I can't answer your specific question, but I too like to use iPhoto for slideshows.
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How to remove a keyword in Aperture 3

I've been testing Aperture 3 now for a few hours. First impression is that it's great! Faster than Aperture 2 and raw support for LX3.
In the Metadata inspector I miss the keywords-list, which in Aperture 2 used to be at the bottom of the Metadata tab. That place is occupied now by Map. I used the keywords-list to remove keywords from an image. In the Aperture 2 manual I read that removing keywords should be done now by deleting it from the keywords textbox, which is not very easy. But, in my case, it does not work!
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How do I remove a keyword from an image?
Greetz, Koen

Piece of cake (Aperture is -- like most programs -- very good at batch processing).
Select all the images which have the wrong keyword. Remove it from all of them (use whatever method you like). All the images are still selected. Add the new keyword (use whatever method you like).
Databases are tremendously powerful at ... manipulating data. In all cases they follow the now-standard "Noun, Verb" syntax: first select what you want to act on, then specify the action.
There are four separate specific sections in the User Manual detailing applying keywords:
http://documentation.apple.com/en/aperture/usermanual/index.html#chapter=10%26se ction=0
And one specific section on removing them:
http://documentation.apple.com/en/aperture/usermanual/index.html#chapter=10%26se ction=8%26tasks=true
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Keyword order in Final Cut Server

Hi there,
I have a question about the order of keywords in Final Cut Server. It seems that I can only search and bring back results for clips if the keywords are in the same order that I search for.
For example, I have a clip with the keywords:
weights gym
So if I search
weights gym in the search box, the clip appears. But if I search
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the clip can't be found.
What am I doing wrong? Also, I'm not putting commas in between keywords, does this affect things at all?
Thanks for your help.

Hi Oliver,
This documentation might help you out:
http://documentation.apple.com/en/finalcutserver/usermanual/index.html#chapter=4 %26section=2%26tasks=true
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Colour management and ordering Aperture prints

I have recently ordered some prints in Aperture. When they arrived the colours were not exactly true to the original picture on the screen.
The monitor was calibrated before ordering prints, but I wonder if there is anything else I need to do to improve the quality.
Should I be using gamma 1.8 or 2.2? Any tips on soft proofing the photos before I order them would be very much appreciated.
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My experience with the build-in ordering system of Aperture has not been very positive. I have stopped using it. My last set came out with too high a contrast and was over-sharpened. A previous order had noticeably different color for the same photo printed in two different sizes (and different again from my calibrated screen).
Depending on the country your living in, different labs will be used, so experiences will differ. I have got my prints from the Netherlands, although I do not live in the Netherlands directly.
I have since switched to a much more expensive local lab, color is much closer to what my screen shows. Matching general impression of brightness and contrast is still not perfect though.
It usually is best to use a gamma of 2.2, if only because once you leave a color managed world (eg, your photos are displayed on any other web browser than Safari, or vice versa, you view images with Firefox) the default assumption is almost always a gamma of 2.2.
One 'problem' with most cheapish labs is that they often apply some sort of automatic correction which can easily negatively affect your photos.
One indicator for a good lab is that they are offering ICC profiles.

Viewing by keyword in Aperture

Hello everyone, I'm the new proud parent of a 17" Macbook Pro and I've been playing around with Aperture quite a bit. I've imported my photos and have been tagging them, which is really cool!
I've looked through the help guides a lot, which are incredibly helpful! One thing I can't find an exact answer for is this: How do I view images by keyword? Say I have 45 photos tagged with "people" and I just want to view those?
Thanks so much,
Jordan

There are multiple ways. A few of the ways are the following.
While in the project you would like to search:
In the search box type in the keyword you are looking for.
To see a list of used keywords and select from them do the following:
Highlight the Project you would like to look in.
Type "command F"
Click Keyword checkbox
Click the keyword you are looking for.
Instead of "Command F" you could click on the magnifying glass which is next to the search box and then continue from there.

How can I see my iPhoto keywords in Aperture

I have iLife 08 and Aperture 1.5.6. I thought from the training video I would be able to see my keywords from iPhoto in Aperture. When I imported from iPhoto to Aperture, I don't even see my smart albums in there.

Are you looking for your entire list of keywords, or the keywords assigned to individual photos? The keywords in the photos should be there since Aperture knows how to read yoru iPhoto library in which your keyworded photos were stored.
Where are you looking for the keywords and not finding them? (I know that's not a very well phrased question. Like when I was a kid and my parents asked me and my brothers "Who didn't take out the garbage." The answer, of course, is "everybody in the world, since's still in the house.")
Okay, so where were you expecting to find the keywords that you didn't?
nathan

Iphoto keywords versus Aperture keywords

I was happy to succesfully import my iPhoto library. But surprised that the keywords were distinct from Aperture keywords. That is, I have a keyword "Birds" in iPhoto, but when I go and add the keyword "Birds" (by typing it in the box) to a new photo, I now have two keywords, "Birds" and "Birds (iphoto)" which are distinct. I want them to be the same. How do I do that?

As DaveyJ pointed out, the iPhoto keywords are in a sub-level.
Your best course of action (this will take a while) is to create a smart album and set it to show all images with one of the keywords in the iPhoto group/level.
Once Aperture shows you the applicable set of images, use the Keywords Control bar to add the non-iPhoto version of the keyword to all of the images; i.e., Select All, then click the keyword. With all of the images still selected, use the Keyboard Controls bar again and shift-click on the iPhoto version of the keyword. This will remove it from the selected images.
You could write an AppleScript to help with this process. I've been experimenting and it can be done. You would use a Smart Album to gather the iPhoto keyword images together and then run the script to remove the iPhoto keyword and add the non-iPhoto keyword.
Here's an example script (that works) to get you started:
tell application "Aperture"
-- set the target to the "Smart beetles" album at the top level of the library.
tell album "Smart beetles" of folder ""
-- get a list of the images in the album.
set x to every image version
-- move through the images one by one, deleting and creating the appropriate keywords
repeat with i from 1 to x's length
tell x's item i
-- Note. if the keyword is top level, then the parents value is "".
delete (every keyword whose name is "Australia" and parents is "Location")
make new keyword with properties {name:"Sydney", parents:"Location"}
end tell
end repeat
end tell
end tell
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