[Killing flash for mobile browsers] Flash Developers of all countries unite!

As a self-proclaimed member of Flash Platform Society, following saddening events of these days, I feel obliged to write several words to all those willing to hear. It is hard to bear the loss of someone dear, someone we can rely on, but we have to be brave and respond to all the threats by facing the terrible truth: Our dear Platform, the one we have commited our lives, will never be the same echosystem without the support for the latest mobile browsers.
But we have to be brave and say it loudly. We have to wear it as a badge of honour, since all other tools and facilites will benefit greatly from this decision as they will treated with greater care by our beloved companies.
Yes, undoubtedly hard times are about to come for us. We may be mocked by other faiths, their mercenaries, prophets and martyrs (all combinations allowed). They will tell us that all is lost. That whole Platform will collapse along with the mobile browsers. They will ask when we intend to abandon what was already abandoned by all.
But it has happened before when some influential people has revealed their mistaken beliefs publically. And we have survived! We may be spiritually-persecuted, we may be unpopular, but eventually we will triumph!
And for all those who stand with me: If I should fall wrap my body in Flash Platform banners!
Sursum corda!
Devoted Developer

I don't think it's going to die. Perhaps Adobe's just not updating the Flash Player anymore for mobile browsers. I mean, what's there to update? It's stable enough as it is. Adobe's trying to improve AIR instead to enhance not just its features for developers benefit but to the market as well.
More power to Flash!!!

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I want to develop flash applications for netfrontbrowser 3.5 and 4.0.
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Can some body tell me which version of flash and flash player runtime does netfront browser 3.5 and 4.0 support?
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I shall wipe a tear from my eye..

Flash for Mobile Workshop

Flash for Mobile Devices
with Instructor Nader Nejat
When: April 13 & 14th (9am - 5pm, ~18 hrs)
Where: 525 Venezia Avenue, Venice, CA 90291
Price: $490 list, $440 with code 3film
This two day course introduces developers to the capabilities
of Flash for mobile devices, best practices for planning mobile
projects, how to convert flash projects to mobile, the entire
production process, how to create engaging content for small
screens. ( Learn more:
http://www.richmediainstitute.com/training/flashmobile/)
Questions? email [email protected]

is this to do with the flash rite thing? and what does it
cover? internet wap graphics or what? please be specific..
pip pip
Rick

Adobe Ceasing Development of Flash on Mobile Browsers

Here's a headline I thought everyone would be interested in posted last night on ZDNet.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/exclusive-adobe-ceases-development-on-mobile-browser-flas h-refocuses-efforts-on-html5/19226

Yes. I saw that too. I don't care either way about Flash for Mobile devices. I think it's been running on borrowed time since Job's damned it on iDevices. I'm more concerned for the 750 people who lost their jobs on Tuesday. Not good.
Nancy O.
Alt-Web Design & Publishing
Web | Graphics | Print | Media Specialists
http://alt-web.com/
http://twitter.com/altweb

Showing image instead of flash for mobiles?

I am just wondering if it is possible to show an image instead of flash content for mobiles?
I want to allow the adobe sniffer to do its thing when it is people using pc and mac browsers and direct them to the plug in page to download the flash player if they need it, but is there a way to sniff for a mobile / smart phone browser and if they cant view flash it will show an image instead?
Any help appreciated.

You can use Javascript to detect the browser and platform for any given user. You can then parse that information to push the content that you want to use for the result. You can find a good write-up with example code here: http://www.quirksmode.org/js/detect.html

Adobe to ditch flash for mobile devices! A few questions

Just read the news. Have a few questions
1. Is AIR still going to be used for cross platform deployment as that is what I am using now ie: will it be used to deploy html5 apps/programmes?
2. What tool/IDE will adobe be using for html5 - flash? flex?
3. All of our multimedia swfs etc... - can they be exported/used in an html5 environment
4. html5 coding - is it similar to actionscript 3 ie: do we have to start all over again - back to school?
5. Games coded with actionscript 3. Can these games be exported to html5 or must they be rewritten?
Flash stays for pc it looks like.
So it is no longer multiplatform - we will have to code for flash on pc and html5 for mobile devices - is that right or will there be some kind of packager that will export our flash to html5
Just a few questions

I don't work for Adobe so my understanding may not be 100% accurate but here we go...
1. Is AIR still going to be used for cross platform deployment as that is what I am using now ie: will it be used to deploy html5 apps/programmes?
Adobe will be concentrating on developing AIR for packaging apps for mobile devices. AIR is ActionScript based and it does not produce HTML5 apps.
2. What tool/IDE will adobe be using for html5 - flash? flex?
HTML5 itself is just a flavour of HTML and therefore Dreamweaver is the Adobe tool for it For Javascript based timeline animation etc, Adobe has Edge http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/edge/
3. All of our multimedia swfs etc... - can they be exported/used in an html5 environment
Adobe has Wallaby http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/wallaby/ for this - I'm not sure how active the development is lately though. In any case it's impossible to replicate all features of Flash in HTML5.
4. html5 coding - is it similar to actionscript 3 ie: do we have to start all over again - back to school?
Again HTML5 itself is just a simple set of HTML tags. JavaScript is very similar to ActionScript, as AS is based on JavaScript (ECMAScript). For example HTML5 Canvas drawing API is very similar to AS3 drawing API. Therefore if you know AS, at least you know the basics of JS syntax.
5. Games coded with actionscript 3. Can these games be exported to html5 or must they be rewritten?
If you want it to run on browsers, yes. If you want to convert into apps then AIR does that.
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http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/

Plugin Flash for mobile

Quand va sortir un plugin Flash pour les navigateurs des
mobiles ?
C'est pas simple de vendre un site web Flash si on ne peut
pas le regarder sur un mobile.
When will leave a plugin flash for the navigators the
mobiles?
It is not simple to sell a Web site flash if one cannot look
it on a mobile.

No - the question is about flash player plugins for web
browsers, not the flash lite crap.
The answer apparently is that Adobe has stopped making a
Flash Player for Windows Mobile as of Flash Player 7.
Can anyone from Adobe confirm that Adobe has no interest in
supporting a Flash Player for Windows Mobile?
If there still is interest, is there any schedule for
updating it - it's already two iterations of OS behind now (it's
for WM2003 and MS is already replaced that with Windows Mobile 5
and Windows Mobile 6! )
I assume Adobe sees this as a threat to Flash Lite-based
phones and wants to push Flash Lite as a quasi-OS perhaps even have
a Flash Lite-based browser. I hoped the iPhone would encourage them
to support advanced mobile devices again. Apparently they would
rather support low-end phones and tie themselves to the carrier so
they have a predictable revenue stream. This seems evident from
even the layout of the forums - there's no Flash Player topic under
the mobile device forums.
From the end-user perspective it seems kind of pointless to
drop it - why not just compile the thing for ARM processors? The
phones that use Flash Lite don't have your choice of browsers, etc.
so it's a completely different market. Please at least release
Flash Player 8, if not Flash Player
9!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I guess mobile users will have to raise a stink like the
Linux users - though how many years did it take for Flash Player on
Linux to be brought up to the same version as the Windows and OSX
versions?

Web gallery or slideshow, non-Flash, for mobile devices needed

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My website -- www.johnblaustein.com -- is all Flash and I'm getting some mild complaints from viewers who would like to see my work on an iPad or iPhone. I built my galleries with SlideShowPro and I know Todd at SSP is working on a mobile device solution. In the meantime, however, I'm wondering if anyone here has some solutions they might share. The iPhone screen is so small that I find thumbnails to be just about useless and navigation difficult. I'm wondering if there is a Lr solution that will produce a web gallery or slideshow that will run full-screen on a mobile device with a simple next and previous button. I'm even thinking I might just do a limited portfolio as a video file with no navigation at all.
Any thoughts?
Thank you.
John

John,
Unless I go for mobile support, I am doing just fine as-is with SSP/LR. I understand the benefits of Director, but at this point I don't have the energy to learn yet another application... unless I really need to. I trust you that learning Director won't be as complicated as I am imagining, but at the moment "it ain't broke, so I don't want to fix it."
I do all my site work myself with Lightroom, SSP and Dreamweaver, so I agree that I could probably get up and running with Director fairly easily. The time will come no doubt.
Thanks again for all of your comments.
I was hoping that others might chime in here with other suggestions on making mobile device web galleries, but maybe there just aren't any good ones.
John

How can I specify a different css file for mobile browsers?

I'm experimenting with updating our website to be "mobile friendly". I could use some help.
We use a lot of static HTML landing pages for things like links from email ads, etc. What I'm trying to do is have 1 landing page so the content/html page is always the same, but the page will detect what browser/device you are using and then load a different css file depending on what it is. But, we don't want to have to load the style info from the PC version if you're not on a PC.
What I'm doing now is specifying the media type in the css link, like this..
<link rel="stylesheet" href="style.css" type="text/css">
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We don't want to have different content depending on the browser, just different stylesheets. Can anyone help?

Hi
Would it be better to do 2 different stylesheets, or just one big one and add a section at the bottom like:
@media only screen and (max-device-width: 480px) { .styles {whatever: styles;} }
2 separate style sheets are recommended. The reason for this is that the Safari mobile browser, (as used in iPhone etc) will download any/all images specified in a style sheet even if they are not used or specified in a media-query rule, this is a know bug with that browser.
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It works, if I have the iPhone as portrait it looks great, but if I turn
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portrait, everything is the right size. Is there any kind of way to get
the landscape to have the normal zoom level? I know I can do
"initial-scale=1.0", but that is just for when the page loads, not if
you change it afterwards...
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maximum-scale = 1.0
as well.
PZ

DPS Analytics for Mobile Browsers

Hi guys,
It's very good that the new analytics is done in HTML5 and could be displayed on the tablet devices. The only problem here is that DPS Dashboard is still in flash. Could you please make the main Dashboard in HTML5, so we may use analytics on the mobile devices and the rest of the things in flash?
Thanks,
Gennady

Hi Kobydo2,
I'm using GATracker and data is being reported, so I can confirm that it works. (Though I haven't tested to confirm that every trackEvent() gets through to GA, so I can't speak to its reliability.)
If I recall correctly, while trackEvent() works, trackPageView() didn't seem to do anything.
Perhaps if you tried commenting out the trackPageView() line the code would start working?
Other than that, your code seems correct.
I don't know if this makes any difference but I keep a single instance of GATracker in a property - i.e. only instantiate it once per session.
You can view my code here:
http://code.google.com/p/languagementor/source/browse/trunk/brightworks/src_bright/com/bri ghtworks/util/AppUseAnalytics.as
Douglas

Flash Design for Mobile Devices May Workshop

I'll be running a 2 day workshop in San Francisco on
Flash Design for Mobile Devices in May.
Please forward this announcement to anyone who might be
interested.
Details are below.
Thanks,
Nader Nejat // CEO
Omega Mobile //
http://www.omegamobile.com
Accelerating profit through stunning mobile experiences
==========================================
What:
Flash Design For Mobile Devices
When:
2 days: Saturday, May 6 & 13, 9am — 5pm
Where:
San Francisco State University Downtown Center
Multimedia Studies Program
425 Market Street, 2nd Floor
San Francisco, CA 94105
For more information and to register:
On the Internet go to:
http://msp.sfsu.edu
Or, call: 415.405.7700
Flash Design For Mobile Devices
In the era of rich mobile media development, your mobile
future is here. Now, learn how to create it in this hands-on
workshop.
We'll give you all the information and practice you need to
be on the
cutting edge of creating Flash content for PDAs, mobile
phones and next
generation devices. We'll explore the mobile Flash landscape
by looking
at working prototypes and actual applications that leverage
the current
mobile Flash player technology.
In this class, each attendee is assigned their own computer
to work on.
Discussions are followed by exercises that show you exactly
what you need
to know to produce your own mobile content. We emphasize
creating great
mobile multimedia experiences for cell phones using Flash
Lite.
In addition to exploring development opportunities available
today, you'll learn:
• The capabilities and limitations of Flash for mobile
development.
• Best practices for planning your mobile projects.
• How to efficiently convert Flash projects to mobile.
• The entire production process from planning to
testing and debugging on the device.
• How to create engaging content and user experiences
for small screens.
• How to maximize memory and processor performance of
your applications.
• How to develop for multiple devices with minimal
changes.
• To tap into resources to get you started quickly
• About handy third party utilities.
Who should take this class?
Anyone interested in developing rich media content for mobile
devices
including: mobile developers interested in Flash as a
potential delivery
platform and interface designers who want to use Flash for
mobile design,
Flash developers who wish to leverage their skills for mobile
development,
web designers who want to take advantage of the next big
medium and anyone
interested in Flash's capabilities for mobile devices.
Prerequisite: Flash I or equivalent experience recommended.
Course #: MULT 9234
Schedule #: 26264
Section: Z01
Hands on, 1 student per computer
2 days; Saturday, May 6 & 13, 9am — 5pm
SFSU Downtown Center, 425 Market
Fee: $395.00
Register Now! Call 415.405.7700

Anything similar available in UK?
"..Nader.." <[email protected]> wrote in
message
news:[email protected]...
> I'll be running a 2 day workshop in San Francisco on
> Flash Design for Mobile Devices in May.
>
> Please forward this announcement to anyone who might be
interested.
>
> Details are below.
>
> Thanks,
> Nader Nejat // CEO
> Omega Mobile //
http://www.omegamobile.com
> Accelerating profit through stunning mobile experiences
>
> ==========================================
>
> What:
> Flash Design For Mobile Devices
>
> When:
> 2 days: Saturday, May 6 & 13, 9am ? 5pm
>
> Where:
> San Francisco State University Downtown Center
> Multimedia Studies Program
> 425 Market Street, 2nd Floor
> San Francisco, CA 94105
>
> For more information and to register:
> On the Internet go to:
http://msp.sfsu.edu
> Or, call: 415.405.7700
>
> Flash Design For Mobile Devices
> --------------------------------
> In the era of rich mobile media development, your mobile
> future is here. Now, learn how to create it in this
hands-on workshop.
> We'll give you all the information and practice you need
to be on the
> cutting edge of creating Flash content for PDAs, mobile
phones and next
> generation devices. We'll explore the mobile Flash
landscape by looking
> at working prototypes and actual applications that
leverage the current
> mobile Flash player technology.
>
> In this class, each attendee is assigned their own
computer to work on.
> Discussions are followed by exercises that show you
exactly what you need
> to know to produce your own mobile content. We emphasize
creating great
> mobile multimedia experiences for cell phones using
Flash Lite.
>
> In addition to exploring development opportunities
available today, you'll
> learn:
> ? The capabilities and limitations of Flash for mobile
development.
> ? Best practices for planning your mobile projects.
> ? How to efficiently convert Flash projects to mobile.
> ? The entire production process from planning to testing
and debugging on
> the
> device.
> ? How to create engaging content and user experiences
for small screens.
> ? How to maximize memory and processor performance of
your applications.
> ? How to develop for multiple devices with minimal
changes.
> ? To tap into resources to get you started quickly
> ? About handy third party utilities.
>
> Who should take this class?
> --------------------------------
> Anyone interested in developing rich media content for
mobile devices
> including: mobile developers interested in Flash as a
potential delivery
> platform and interface designers who want to use Flash
for mobile design,
> Flash developers who wish to leverage their skills for
mobile development,
> web designers who want to take advantage of the next big
medium and anyone
> interested in Flash's capabilities for mobile devices.
>
> Prerequisite: Flash I or equivalent experience
recommended.
>
> Course #: MULT 9234
> Schedule #: 26264
> Section: Z01
>
> Hands on, 1 student per computer
> 2 days; Saturday, May 6 & 13, 9am ? 5pm
> SFSU Downtown Center, 425 Market
> Fee: $395.00
>
> Register Now! Call 415.405.7700
>

Is there an Adobe Flash Player for other browsers for Mac?

Please follow this link to see what i mean. http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/
The first two system options windows etc give an option for other browsers but the Mac option does not.
Is there a way to get a *for other browsers* flash player for mac?

The reason there aren't two versions of Flash Player for Mac is that there is no longer an "Internet Exploder" for Mac since 2004. Windows has two builds because IE requires ActiveX controls and thus, a completely different architecture. The Flash Player for Mac IS for all other browsers.

How to create a flash button, for mobile phones?

i want to know the way how i can create a flash button for mobile in flash CS4.

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--Mukul

Is Flash Builder dead? I just found out that adobe has dropped Flash on mobile devices

I did alot of research on software to develop apps for the mobile market. I liked Flash Builder since it will create apps for all 3 types of mobile devices at once. Downloaded the 30 day trial and have started on the 5 day training course.
Today I saw an article from sitepoint that abobe has dropped development and support for Flash on mobile devices.
The end result of Flash Builder gives you a .swf file in an html wrapper thus we are developing flash when adobe has dropped Flash for mobile. Am I wasting my time? Should I go to another software package?
http://www.sitepoint.com/adobe-abandons-mobile-flash/
Adobe Abandons Flash on Mobile Devices
HELP

the plugin for mobile browsers is the only thing they will not update in the future. The normal desktop browser plugin is very alive
Everything else is active... they are still continuing to work on exporting to Android,iOS, and rim playbook via AIRapps in both flash builder and flash pro.
The only difference going forward is mobile websites viewing flash (apps are unchanged). Basically... apple won
Not a big deal so far, but everywhere you look people are frantic and asking -whats next?
I like air for ios and android. Im sticking with it

HT204266 Is there a replacement for Adobe flash for ipad2?

I am trying to watch a video, which pops up from a website.

No Flash for iPads, iPhones, or iPods
Here's why there's is no Flash available for iDevices or other mobile devices. Adobe was unable to provide a product that was suitable to the needs of battery powered mobile devices used for Internet browsing. Existing Flash technology used too much memory, ate battery life, and was buggy. Simply put Flash did not work well on mobile devices.
Apple's Steve Jobs led the escape from Flash dependency when Apple introduced the iPhone, and later introduced the iPad. There was a hue and cry over the omission. Time proved Jobs was right on target.
So this is why there is no Flash for your iPhone or iPad or iPod nor for most SmartPhones. Flash has been abandoned by many sites in favor of supported technologies such as HTML5 or by providing their own custom app.
Here is Steve Jobs official comment on his momentous decision to omit Flash from iDevices: Steve Jobs on Flash.
Here is Adobe's later announcement to cease development of Flash for mobile devices: Adobe on Mobile Flash.
Now, you are not necessarily out on a limb. There are some apps that can display some Flash, but don't count on there ability to display anything using Flash.
Apps that can display some Flash from the Web:
Puffin
SkyFire
Photon Flash
Browse2Go
iSwifter
Also, note that many sites that use Flash provide their own app for accessing their material. So check with your favorite sites and find out if "there's an app for that."

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