Kin1m- Can't pull DHCP from any Access Point on 2 different phones

I am hoping someone can help us.
I have two kin1m phones, and have recently attempted to use the WIFI connectivity.  Browsing works fine via the data plan, however, I blocked the data plan (online), intending to only use WIFI on the phones but cannot get either of the two phones to work via WiFi.
Have have tried two different access points, and everything from OPEN to WEP to WPA2 and both AES and TKIP.
I get connected to the access point just fine, but the only address that is allocated is the DNS server.  The IP, subnet, gateway, etc. remain blank or all zeros for about 5 minutes, then it sets a default apipa address in the 169.254.x.x class B range.
This is the same on both phones, so I have a tough time believing this is a defect.  Like I said, I have tried both a Linksys WAP4400N (Firmware Version: 1.2.14) and a TrendNet TEW-430APB
Please advise, as my kids are going to DRIVE ME CRAZY over this!
Thanks,
Mr. Kidwhipped

paulbarbee wrote:I tried manually running ¨/etc/rc.d/dhcp4 start¨ but that ...
... But that is a dhcp server, not a client.  In other words, you are trying to tell your computer to provide other computers on that public network with IP addresses.  Because you did not set your configuration file up to serve that subnet, the server choose to ignore it.  This is fortunate, because the owner of that network might not have appreciated that
You want to run dhcpcd, which is a client.  You might also try dhclient, a client that sometimes is more forgiving.

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