Kingston HX PC3500 overclocking question (875P board)

I'm asking because I intend to get this memory. But before that I want some info. Does anyone have this type of memory and if so, what about overclocking? How far can you go and what are the timings at the highest FSB you can get? Thanks in advance.

well overclocking is an skill.you kinda gotta get the feel for it and its very important to Fully understand how changing your settings in your BIOS is gonna affect the rest of your system.with this in mind first off there are certain things that must be taken into consideration before you even start.
your gonna need a bigger better CPU cooler.i recommend anything thermal-right as most serious o/c will tell you they are very good with no frills.
second how good is your ram? if its just generic you may have a hard time getting very far.and just because it says PC 3200 or whatever doesn't mean much when you start pushing the limits and changing timings on things.
third thing is make sure you have a big power supply!very important.i recommend 400w for starters if your gonna overclock.
when you start you wanna go up a little bit at a time and for air cooling i would never recommend raising your v-core over .1 your biggest enemy is heat and what mostly causes heat is raising your CPU voltages.also ask lots of questions good luck!
also to unlock your cpu go to google and look up "amd wire trick"

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The BIOS utility for the P8P67 Pro B3 Board has an EZ Mode that allows you to select from 3 performance presets: Powersaving, Normal, and Overclock mode. When I set it to Overclock, the system becomes unstable - won't bootup or will freeze during some operation.
There is also a tool for overclocking from within Windows after bootup. Again, anything other than the stock setting causes instability.
I had hoped to overclock the traditional manual way, but don't think it's a good idea if the presets don't work. I was wondering if anyone else had similar problems or should I disregard the presets.
CPU i7-2600k
16 GB RAM

@ Scott: thanks for that advice. I planned to OC the traditional way. I just thought it strange that the OC preset designed for its own board would be unstable. It actually pushed the clock speed to 4.3Ghz. Not too conservative, is it?
The software is part of the BIOS utility. It has an EZ Mode and AI advanced (manual) mode.

Overclocking Questions

Hello all,
I know i'm going to ask some n00b questions about overclocking but if someone could give me some answers i would be grateful.
So here are my puters specs:
MSI K7N2 Delta L mobo
AMD Athlon XP 2600+ @ 2.08Ghz FSB 333Mhz
512MB Ram @ 333Mhz Generic Dual Channel (2X 256MB)
Heatsink Thermaltake VOLCANO 11 – Xaser Edition
What should i do to overclock the CPU without unlocking it (if it is possible).
Can i do it only by altering the FSB speed?
Also what should i do with the RAM and the AGP, PCI Bus?
Thank you in advance and Merry X-mas to all

Where do I access all of these OC options (like FSB:RAM ratios, 'Performance Mode', and all the other crazy stuff this board has? And don't tell me the BIOS, I've been there, done that. Do I need to update my BIOS? (I'm using the one that came with the 875P)
Here we go:
2.4 GHz Pentium 4 processor with 800MHz FSB and HT
Sapphire Atlantis 128MB Radeon 9600Pro GPU
512MB(2x256) Kingston HyperX DDR400 RAM
MSI 875P Neo 2 Motherboard
120GB Serial ATA Maxtor Hard Drive
Creative Labs SoundBlaster Audigy2 Sound Card
Creative Megaworks 5.1 THX surround sound
16x LiteOn DVD drive
48x24x48 LiteOn CD-RW drive
400 Watt Foxconn Power Supply
19" Viewsonic P95f+ CRT
Chieftec Black Case
Logitech MX700 Rechargeable Wireless Optical Mouse
Logitech Elite Multimedia Keyboard
Cyberpower 825AVR UPS
And a floppy drive!
Cooling is stock, but I have a bunch of case fans and good air circulation.
As far as overclocking, I'm looking to go for about 3GHz (It sounds reasonable to me).
Thanks.

Other 875p boards have problems too

I went to the forums of some other board makers and it seems as though all of the 875p boards have some problems. The asus forum is saying not to buy the p4c800 deluxe because they are changing some of the peripherals on it already. The abit board has raid and memory problems, and as a former abit user I can say that it took forever for abit to release a bios that actually allowed the board to work like it should. The gigabyte GA-8KNXP board also has ata, fan, raid, and memory problems.
I'm not sure how often the others are releasing a new bios but I like the way MSI has been working to eliminate the issues with the 875p fis2r.
Just thought you would like to know that if you are thinking of getting rid of this board.

Makes nape look a bit pro msi,right :D
Anyway,he has a point,if u check forums almost every canterwood/springdale board has still its unique probs.
But MSI was worst that time,starting with that THG (which THG not really discovered without help as some ppl say..)FSB OC thing together with low mem bandwith and bios probs.
If 1.5 keeps what its looking right now we are up the other brands.
I wont say "oh,I never buy a MSI board again",its just some kind of russian roulette,sometimes very brand has it POS.
So if 1.5 really fixed most probs and the other ones hopefully will be fixed soon(manual CAS setting pls) we can say it could have been worse.
Best way is to wait until expierences with boards of every brand are in the popular forums so u can take a look. Never buy new kind of hardware just when it was released,there is always a risk of buying some pos.
I dont trust reviews anymore,look at the boards

Are all 875p board have raid...?

are all msi 875p boards have raid i see that some baord have ICH5 and not ICH5R that support raid in the chipset. but the bios update add raid 1 for what chipset...? i have the ICH5 on my board rev.A2

The ICH5 is the Intel controller that supports 2 P-ATA channels and 2 S-ATA channels. It is used in the 875 boards that don't have 'R' in their name.
The ICH5R is a version of the ICH5 controller that supports RAID on the 2 S-ATA channels. It is used in the 875 boards with the 'R' in their name.
The boards with the ICH5R controller also have an additional controller made by Promise, that supports RAID and provides another 2 S-ATA channels and an additional P-ATA channel. This is where the '2' in front of the R comes from: 2 RAID configurations.

Overclocking question

Hey all! I'm just bought a new comp and am new to this board. I have a pretty nice system put together(at least im my opinion. It's been running flawlessly for the past few months but i want to get a little more out of it considering there is a 4 comp LAN set up at my house and I am usually running server. My question is what all do i need to do to overclock to get as much performance as possible. It's running at 2.09GHz now and I'd like to overclock to about 2.5. The problem is when i try to up the multiplier it shows a lower speed. When i increased the multiplier in Bios by 1 for CPU speed it read 833MHz. Is there something wrong or am i just missing something really simple here. Thanks for the help in advance.
MSI K7N2 delta-ILSR
Athlon XP 2600+ 333FSB
512 MB Kingston DDR400
Asus Geforce4 Ti4800SE
Too long to list everything :D

well overclocking is an skill.you kinda gotta get the feel for it and its very important to Fully understand how changing your settings in your BIOS is gonna affect the rest of your system.with this in mind first off there are certain things that must be taken into consideration before you even start.
your gonna need a bigger better CPU cooler.i recommend anything thermal-right as most serious o/c will tell you they are very good with no frills.
second how good is your ram? if its just generic you may have a hard time getting very far.and just because it says PC 3200 or whatever doesn't mean much when you start pushing the limits and changing timings on things.
third thing is make sure you have a big power supply!very important.i recommend 400w for starters if your gonna overclock.
when you start you wanna go up a little bit at a time and for air cooling i would never recommend raising your v-core over .1 your biggest enemy is heat and what mostly causes heat is raising your CPU voltages.also ask lots of questions good luck!
also to unlock your cpu go to google and look up "amd wire trick"

Can't overclock ! 875P Neo

Hi,
I just got a 875P Neo with a P4 2.4c ( FSB 800 ) and Corsair TwinX 3200 RAMs, and I can't get anything higher than a 15 mhz increase in FSB - 2.6 is the most I can get.
Increasing the CPU voltage to 1.7 and ram to 2.8 allowed me to boot with 222 FSB, but that's as far as I can go - the system hangs up.
Temperatures are at about 40C.
I'm stumped. I thought this board is good at overclocking.
BTW, I cannot find DOT and PAT settings. I thought 875's have PAT ?
Thanks for any advice.

http://www.msi.com.tw/program/e_service/forum/index.php?threadid=27973&boardid=10
Some guy in here removed his ATI vid card and it worked after that...
Anyway, I didn't read the entire thread, it might offer you the solution you need?
please do not edit if you are asking a new question and aren't the last post in the thread, just make a new reply/thread ??? anyway, I'm not a mod here so it isn't really my business....
I believe dot is not in the bios yet, so you wouldn't be able to find that anyway, but I read here it will be available in the future. I do not know what PAT is...yet

Newb Overclocking Questions?

I'm just started overclocking and have a ram question. My ram, which is only Corsair 512x2 Value Select, shows that it's running at 2.5, 3, 3, 8, 2T. Now if i'm overclocking i want to lower or raise these numbers to make everything more stable? I thought you would want to tighten them, make them lower, but i'm confused after reading some stuff if i actually want to raise them since i'm overclocking the cpu.
Also there are two different types of voltages (or at least numbers i can raise one reads like 66 right now the other is a straight voltage, i believe it's at 2.5V right now) for my AGP card, which from what i'm hearing is something i would need to raise as well when overclocking, what's the diffrence between these two? I realize one is a voltage, what's the 66 number one for? thanks

66 stands for 66 mhz which is the speed the agp slot works at.
on some boards you need to set it to 67mhz for the agp lock to work.
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2.5, 3, 3, 8, 2T
if overclocking memory you can try 2.5-4-4-10-2T or 3-4-4-10-2T

Newbie Athlon xp overclocking question

I have not been in the habit of overclocking processors since the early pentiums (when it was simple multiplier changes), and have a question about modern athlon XP's
How do I know how much I can overclock the processor (an Athlon XP 2000+) safely, and which parameters on a K7N2G-ILSR board can cause significant damage ?
What performance increase is likely, and is it worth it ( I know we sometimes push it just cos we can...) )
Is there a newbie guide to overclocking somewhere that i could refer to ?
Thanx
Brummieman

The MOST interesting question is still not answered though.... what effect does the overclocking have on "true" applications?
Overclocking my 2100+ on the K7N2-L to 13*166 oviously catapulted my proccessor benchmarks up to the performances between 2400+ and 2800+, depending on the test, the results in 3d-mark went up from 8000 to 8500 for exsample even though you get the same result already with a fsb of 150 due to the lower performance on higher temperatures, but the results in sandra were quite outstanding (compared to the standard settings.
The use in application I still doubt at present (when do we really use our performance???)
ripping a DVD to SVCD with DVDx saved me something between 7 and 15mins for exsample, I do not see the use in running my system on the edge for that, as i stated before, I just wanted to see what is POSSIBLE....
I now run my system with fsb 150 again, which showed the same temperatures (idle and after 10 3dmarks) as with standard 133.
What did you guys experience?
Are you sure he should go high enough for the syastem to crash completely so you need the 100mhz setup???
I`d think slowly rising step by step, run tests watching the temp readings until you get the first faults is safer and you feel like a scientist lol! OK, your methode has the advantage of the adrenalin kick

Hello all, new here to MSI, some overclocking questions

Hey everyone, new here to MSI products (a mobo, P45 Platinum) and forum. I recently came from the 680i chipset and decided to try out these P45. From reading a lot of things from various forums and here at https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=119345.0, it seems that there is a challenge (and the rewards !!) to overclocking the P45.
In any case, my questions are:
1. I know this has probably been answered somewhere but I've yet to concisely concluded, do you need to remove the on-board jumpers to overclock if you are trying to achieve over 1600 Mhz FSB? I currently have the jumpers off.
2. I've notice that the GTLREF voltage is not within 63% of the CPU VTT using the latest beta bios A7512IMS.153 [v1.5b3]. Is that right?
3. Anyone have any experience using the RAM modules I have? See sig for details.
4. Green Power Center crashes in Vista when making changes. Is there a unknown compatibility issue? I've have installed fresh copy of Vista.

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do you need to remove the on-board jumpers to overclock if you are trying to achieve over 1600 Mhz FSB? I currently have the jumpers off.
Removing the jumpers will set the FSB Frequency to 400 MHz and force the system into a default-400 MHz Strap. You should also be able to overclock manually in BIOS starting from other jumper position. Just test and see which one works best for you. It may be the default position or the 400 MHz position (jumper removal).
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2. I've notice that the GTLREF voltage is not within 63% of the CPU VTT using the latest beta bios A7512IMS.153 [v1.5b3]. Is that right?
How did you notice that? What percentage does the BIOS set in your case?
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3. Anyone have any experience using the RAM modules I have? See sig for details.
That is more or less standard DDR2-800 memory which should not make any problems. In terms of overclocking it, you have to see what can be achieved. Memory OC Results usually vary from system to system.
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4. Green Power Center crashes in Vista when making changes. Is there a unknown compatibility issue? I've have installed fresh copy of Vista.
Are you using the latest version?

KT4 Ultra Overclocking Questions.

I have read the above sticky in regards to this board. MSI (6590) KT 4 Ultra. My questions is this ..I have an AMD Athlon 1800+Xp CPU. In bios for FSb its default is 100...........obviously thats too low because BIOS will under clock the cpu to FSB 100 x whatever the multiplier is. I can set in BIOS as high as 272 mhz and a multiplier of 12.5/13.5 stable for gaming . But how come Wcupid reports the FSB as being 142.34 when its obviously set in BIOS to 272 .........Is that just the CPU FSB multiplier or the actual system FSB ? One would think that if you set the FSB in BIOS to 166 that it should report the FSb as being 166 mhz ........266 in bios should be 266 FSb for system should it not?? .
Anyway the default ghz speed for this CPu is 1.591 GHZ at 266 FSb mhz set in BIOS. But i use the 12.5/13.5/ multiplier which makes it 1730 GHZ CPU speed and reports cpu as XP 2000 + in post info. Now i can go up in increments of 1 in BIOS FSb all the way to 274 ..anything higher is unstable. But i thought this moboard could be overclocked to a 266 mhz FSb . Wcupid shows it as 142.34 right now and the multiplier in BIOS is 12.5/13.5x and the FSB in bios is set to 272 i beleive . Maybe im dumb but can someone explain how this can be.

Sure i do ....If what you say is true ...Because AMi BIOS has a setting for FSB in BIOS which mine is set to 270 MHZ. Im a veteran and i have built CPUs so overclocking is not the issue. The issue is the amount of MHZ i can set in bios that does not equal up to what it should in Wcupid. Please re read my post and you will see what im talking about or go into AMI bIOS ver 1.0 if you are able to and see what im talking about. I can reach 276 in that setting (max with this bios version is 280) but the multiplier has to be dropped to 11.5 to gain stabability. Id rather have a lower 270 setting and higher multiplier just because its stable and is not overheating . I want to know why i cant set that in BIOS to max setting (280) . CPU wont boot if i raise it past 276 at 11.5 multiplying.
With the BIOS setting at 270 and the multiplier at 12.5/13.5 the following info is taken from Wcupid screen
Internal clock 1779 ghz
System BUS 284.68
System clock 142.34 (143)
Multiplier 12.5
Im used to AOPEN jumper setting boards to overclock .

Questions on board change

I have questions on the motherboard change I'm about to do and obviously I'm amateur with this stuff so please bare with me. my question is I'm installing the MSI K7N2-l with AMD Athlon X.P. 2000+ Palomino core.
I was wondering when I switch motherboards can I put in my current hard drive with windows XP and just reinstall the current drivers for this new motherboard, or is there something else I need to do? I understand that before I remove the old motherboard I will need to uninstall any drivers or bios pertaining to that board before proceeding, is this correct? Thank you for your patience any information would be greatly appreciated!
Bill

It really depends on how much trouble just backing up critical data and doing a clean install is for you....I do recommend a clean install...but as you stated uninstalling any ide device, pci controllers and such will probably get you into a windows enviornment with the new board, but it is hard finding all previous registry entries....I would try a repair/ not a reinstall of the os from the XP cd itself.

Dead 875p board

I have a problem. I have emailed support about it but I thought I would post in here.
I recently bought a Model#: MS6758010 which is the 875P Neo-LSR Retail . I have just installed Windows XP Pro and had it up and running for a few days when the northbridge fan blew up. Sparks came flying out (case open) and I figured out that two of the three lights the northbridge fan has had blew up. So since the system would not boot I begin to look at the chipset for damage and came to the southbridge which has a hole in it. I am not sure how this happened but it happened at the same time when the northbridge blew out and the system went dead. I need advice on what to do. Do you think MSI will honor its product? Should I send it to them or send it back to www.newegg.com where I purchased it?
I hope an MSI representative responds with an answer for me in this thread. Please help.

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Originally posted by ZippyGaloo
Is this an isolated case or is this a problem with all of the motherboards? I'm considering buying this board over the Abit IG-7. Any suggestions? Blowing up isn't on my list of wants with a new 800fsb motherboard.
It looks to be an isolated case as my board has been problem-free. (MSI 875P Neo-FIS2R)
Scott

K7T Turbo2 Overclocking question

Can i adjust the processor voltage without unlocking it first?
i'm using AMD AthlonXP 2000+ T-Bred A

yes, but wicked unstable because of the overclocked agp, the screen would have white rectangles where the ads should be and that kinda thing. by moving down a little at a time, I was able to leave it @150 and have it run fairly well. by changing to my little guy, 1500Xp I was able to squeak a couple of more fsb ,but I still moved it back to 150 ,as that was the sweet spot Funny thing about it was, that I was running 3 different brands of ram, and still could get it up there ,but it was more stable with just 1 stick, and the Kingston was CL2 so I chose that. They weren't expensive ram either, Apacer and Centon from Circuit City. Closer examination of the ram showed up the fact that they were all Infenion chips. I was also using a modified version of 98se that allows up to 1 gb of ram. I have since loaded one with XP and still does excellent @150FSB and 2 sticks 256 Kingston CL2. I was gonna try PC150 but this little test showed that was a waste of money. This was with a FUTUREPOWER400watt P/S I think trying anything bigger would still give you problems as you have no way to lock pci/agp from the OC like a kt3 or KT4 has and hardware don't like OC as 1 dead harddrive will tell you. BIGDADDY51

I have an OVERCLOCKING QUESTION

i have a 2.8 overclocked to a 3.2. i am using pc3200 ram (400mhz). i have it set to run at a 5:4 ratio, i have my ram frequency running a 333. when i up my bus from 200 to 230 and reboot, my bios tells me my ram is running at 383 mhz. all the windows programs (clockgen,sandra) are telling me different. they say my ram is at 184mhz(184x2=368). windows apps are reporting 184 or (184x2). my question is, am i running at 383 or 368. my sandra scores are normal for my ram. which is telling the truth my bios, or the windows programs? also is there a way i can up my ram and not my FSB, any overclock programs allow that?

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which is better getting the extra ram boost or getting the extra processor boost?
There is no right answer. It depends on what your software benefits by. Try it both ways, compare the benchmarks, and then try real applications that you use to see if the response is noticeable. If you can't tell the difference I would go with the 1:1 ratio.
bejon2000 asked if you locked your AGP/PCI clock. When running in performance mode you can go to this clock setting, even though it is greyed out, hit enter and change it. You have to do this after adjusting the FSB as it also adjusts the AGP/PCI setting.

Kingston HX PC3500 overclocking question (875P board)

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