@Klondike K7N2 Delta2 Platinum, new owner.

Hi.
I am kinda old but maybe not as old as you . Experience before...
Much regard to your efforts for writing some exhaustive information on the MSI K7N2 Delta2 Platinum. I think I would be more than completely lost without your help http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/here-vp624299.html#624299. Now at least my system is running.
I have some specific points, and please forgive me if I'm asking something you may have answered. Got kids running around, that kind of thing. Have to run out and pick up milk in a minute, life is busy, you get it... sure? Any links are helpful too.
The existing server had an XP software raid (hack some dm* files a bit, there is a toms hardware article on it here http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/windowsxp-make-raid-5-happen,925-2.html on a Shuttle AN35 Ultra 400 and a Barton Athlon XP 2600+ 0343.
But it's a barebones board so I thought I would 'Upgrade' the file server with an 'everything' board. Enter the K7N2 Delta2 Platinum. Enter also a 0310 2500+ which I patched the mobile jumper for fun and cut all of L6. The NFORCE2 seems to ignore these settings, and swapping in the 2600+ completely stock doesn't seem to change anything below:
Questions I have which I have not got answered yet (and running 1/20/2005 bios the board came with): I can't adjust the vCore! I can only set it in the bios but not in Windows, where I have 8rdavcore - this dynamically lowered my FSB and vcore when the system was idle. 8rdavcore lists the board but there is no driver in the drop-down: this is not the giveio.sys driver mentioned on the home page, it is a driver to interface with the vcore and other settings on the board.
With your recommendations klondike the system at least boots reliably. Already I am disappointed in the MSI versus the Shuttle for this reason alone, no vcore and the settings seem really picky in the MSI Bios. The shuttle though had a periodic problem with crashes which I never figured out. LC 6420GP 80plus PS, ATI 9250 AGP, Team Value memory (identical in timing to the Value memory in your post Klondike), 3ware 9500S-8 hardware raid, NEC USB 5 port USB card and a 3com 10/100, all moved to the new system, with the 3ware newly introduced replacing the software raid. Removes the annoying rebuild when the system crashes out, prevents major disk data glitches.
I want this system to dynamically underclock, but as yet, I cannot adjust the vcore down. For example, Corecenter, or nTune, has the field for vcore and other values, but except for FSB, they are locked, and 8rdavcore log shows it cannot load the driver. The Shuttle went to under 100 fsb with a low voltage dynamically, I think vcore 1.25 with the Athlon XP Barton 2600+, and run super-cool and use about 75 watts of power vs 110w.
Any ideas?

Came back to the machine, swapped back in the Athlon XP Barton 2600+, took a look in the BIOS (don't know if I changed anything, probably), and now the vCore is greyed out again in 8rdavcore. "No ATXP1 found."
Edit: I used the CMOS jumper to reset settings several times to no effect.
Sorry I did not get the log when it was working. I will next time! I assume where it says "not responding" has something to do with the problem.
Here is the log from 8rdavcore:
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00/24 16:36:50 | ===============================================
00/24 16:36:50 | 8RDAVCORE: Version 8rdavcore 0.8.8-dev8
00/24 16:36:50 | 8RDAVCORE: Windows NT/2000/XP detected
00/24 16:36:50 | giveio: Opened Service-manager successfully
00/24 16:36:50 | giveio: Service giveio exists
00/24 16:36:50 | giveio: Service giveio is running
00/24 16:36:50 | board: Found section General
00/24 16:36:50 | board: Found section Abit KT7A
00/24 16:36:50 | board: Found section Abit NF7
00/24 16:36:50 | board: Found section Acorp NFU400N
00/24 16:36:50 | board: Found section Aopen AK79D-400VN
00/24 16:36:50 | board: Found section Asus A7N8X-E
00/24 16:36:50 | board: Found section Asus A7N8X v2.0 Deluxe
00/24 16:36:50 | board: Found section Chaintech CT-7NJL1/CT-7NJS
00/24 16:36:50 | board: Found section DFI Infinity NFII Ultra
00/24 16:36:50 | board: Found section DFI Lanparty NFII Ultra
00/24 16:36:50 | board: Found section Epox EP-8RDA+ Rev. 1.x
00/24 16:36:50 | board: Found section Epox EP-8RDA+ Rev. 2.x
00/24 16:36:50 | board: Found section Epox EP-8RDA(3,6,+,I,E)
00/24 16:36:50 | board: Found section Gigabyte GA-7N400 Pro
00/24 16:36:50 | board: Found section Gigabyte GA-7NNXP
00/24 16:36:50 | board: Found section Jetway N2PA
00/24 16:36:50 | board: Found section Leadtek K7NCR-18D
00/24 16:36:50 | board: Found section MSI K7N2 Delta L
00/24 16:36:50 | board: Found section Shuttle AN35N Ultra V1.1
00/24 16:36:50 | board: Found section Shuttle SN45G
00/24 16:36:50 | board: Found section Soltek 75FRN(2)-L
00/24 16:36:50 | board: Found section Soltek NV400-L64
00/24 16:36:50 | SMI: Got IO base 0x4400
00/24 16:36:50 | SMI: Back-to-back writes disabled.
00/24 16:36:50 | smi: Function code not set, forcing to 0x88
00/24 16:36:50 | SMI: Not responding.
00/24 16:36:50 | 8RDAVCORE: Using board MSI K7N2 Delta L
00/24 16:36:50 | nforce2_smbus: 1.1: 0x8410de
00/24 16:36:50 | nforce2_smbus: Address of bus 0 is 0x5000
00/24 16:36:50 | nforce2_smbus: Address of bus 1 is 0x5100
00/24 16:36:50 | 8rdavcore: Init SMBUS drivers done
00/24 16:36:50 | atxp1: Searching on NFORCE2_SMBUS:NFORCE2_SMBUS0
00/24 16:36:50 | atxp1: Searching on NFORCE2_SMBUS:NFORCE2_SMBUS1
00/24 16:36:51 | atxp1: No ATXP1 found
00/24 16:36:51 | SMI: Not responding.
00/24 16:36:51 | SMI: Not responding.
00/24 16:36:51 | SMI: Not responding.
00/24 16:36:51 | SMI: Not responding.
00/24 16:36:51 | SMI: Not responding.
00/24 16:36:51 | 8rdavcore: Init voltage drivers done
00/24 16:36:51 | nforce2-pci: Revision c1
00/24 16:36:51 | 8rdavcore: Init chipset drivers done
00/24 16:36:51 | WINBOND: Found a W83627THF
00/24 16:36:51 | ite: ITE8712F found
00/24 16:36:51 | ITE: 16-bit fan counter 0x3c
00/24 16:36:51 | SMI: Not responding.
00/24 16:36:51 | SMI: Not responding.
00/24 16:36:51 | SMI: Not responding.
00/24 16:36:51 | SMI: Not responding.
00/24 16:36:51 | SMI: Not responding.
00/24 16:36:51 | SMI: Not responding.
00/24 16:36:51 | SMI: Not responding.
00/24 16:36:51 | lm90: Searching on NFORCE2_SMBUS:NFORCE2_SMBUS0
00/24 16:36:51 | lm90: Searching on NFORCE2_SMBUS:NFORCE2_SMBUS1
00/24 16:36:51 | lm90: No LM90 found
00/24 16:36:51 | 8rdavcore: Init sensor drivers done
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: Physical drive 0 opened
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: SMART enabled on drive 0
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: Physical drive 1 opened
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: SMART_GET_VERSION failed
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: Physical drive 2 opened
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: SMART_GET_VERSION failed
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: Physical drive 3 opened
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: SMART_GET_VERSION failed
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: IDE drive 0
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: Model: ST3750640AS
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: Firmware: 3.AAE
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: Serial: 3QD14TMH
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: Buffer: 16777216 Byte
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: Available attributes (F=Pre-Failure, O=On-Line, P=Performance, E=Error-rate, C=Event-Count, S=Self-Preserving):
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: ID Name Value Worst Threshold Raw Flags
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: 1 Raw Read Error Rate 117 91 6 158 FOPE
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: 3 Spin Up Time 94 93 0 0 FO
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: 4 Start Stop Count 100 100 20 102 O CS
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: 5 Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 36 0 FO CS
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: 7 Seek Error Rate 72 60 30 153 FOPE
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: 9 Power on time 100 100 0 195 O CS
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: 10 Spin Retry Count 100 100 97 0 FO C
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: 12 Power Cycle Count 100 100 20 106 O CS
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: 187 Unknown 100 100 0 0 O CS
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: 189 Unknown 100 100 0 0 O ECS
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: 190 Unknown 63 54 45 37 O S
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: 194 Temperature 37 46 0 37 O S
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: 195 Hardware ECC Recovered 81 61 0 207 O EC
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: 197 Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0 O C
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: 198 Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0 C
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: 199 UDMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 3 OPECS
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: 200 Write Error Count 100 253 0 0
00/24 16:36:51 | smart: 202 Unknown 100 253 0 0 O CS
00/24 16:36:51 | 8rdavcore: Init SMART drivers done
00/24 16:36:51 | pnp: Detected W83627THF
00/24 16:36:51 | pnp: Registers are unlocked
00/24 16:36:51 | pnp: GPIO config: 0x40, 0x40, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00
00/24 16:36:51 | pnp: LD7: CR30=0x0f, 0xf0, 0xff, 0x0b, 0xff, 0xff, 0x00
00/24 16:36:51 | pnp: LD8: CR30=0x01, 0xff, 0x5e, 0x00
00/24 16:36:51 | pnp: LD9: CR30=0x00, 0xff, 0xff, 0xff
00/24 16:36:51 | cpuload: thread created, id: 208, update: 5000
00/24 16:36:51 | autofsb: autofsb_load(): Added AutoFSB1
00/24 16:36:51 | autofsb: autofsb_load(): Added AutoFSB1.2
00/24 16:36:51 | 8rdavcore: Chipset reported multiplier: 115
00/24 16:36:52 | 8rdavcore: Calculated multiplier: 114
00/24 16:36:52 | 8rdavcore: init_values done
00/24 16:36:54 | 8rdavcore: Using driver
00/24 16:36:54 | control: control_set_val(): POSSIBLE BUG: Got a NULL pointer
00/24 16:36:54 | 8rdavcore: Init control startup values done
00/24 16:36:54 | 8rdavcore: Create sensor list done
00/24 16:36:54 | 8rdavcore: Create preset list done
00/24 16:36:54 | 8rdavcore: Create AutoFSB list done
00/24 16:36:54 | 8rdavcore: Create trigger list done
00/24 16:36:54 | 8rdavcore: Create sensor field done
00/24 16:36:54 | 8rdavcore: No primary VCore control!
00/24 16:36:54 | 8rdavcore: Create voltage list done
00/24 16:36:55 | 8rdavcore: Create SMART list done
00/24 16:36:55 | 8rdavcore: AutoFSB disabled
00/24 16:36:59 | control: control_get_val(): POSSIBLE BUG: Got a NULL pointer
00/24 16:36:59 | 8rdavcore: Saved Main vars
00/24 16:36:59 | 8rdavcore: Saved sensor settings
00/24 16:37:00 | 8rdavcore: Saved presets
00/24 16:37:00 | 8rdavcore: Saved autofsb settings
00/24 16:37:01 | 8rdavcore: Saved log settings
00/24 16:37:01 | 8rdavcore: Freeing lists...
00/24 16:37:01 | Done.

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Antec SX1040B2 File Server Case
550watt Antec TrueControl PSU
MSI K7N2 Delta2 Platinum
AMD Athlon XP 3200+/400mhz FSB (2.2GHz)
Thermaltake Volcano 12
1GB(2x512) Corsair Twinx1024XL Dual Channel
ATI All-In-Wonder 9800 Pro
Sound Blaster Audigy 2ZS Platinum
Pioneer 10x DVD Drive
Sony DRU-700A
Western Digital 120.0GB 7200RPM HD ATA/100
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Logitech MX500 Optical Mouse
Logitech Elite Keyboard
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well, for the errors. In half-life 2, after however much playtime, the screen will just randomly go blue, without any official windows message or error code, forcing me to manually restart with the reset button. It's done this for the most part. Other times, when I change the settings, the game will just boot me back to the desktop, giving me a visual basic runtime error. Oddly enough, when I set the ram to 166mhz fsb, the game is totally stable. I've also just updated to the newest bios 11.50 and tried all of the previous settings as well as the "optimized defaults" and "fail-safe defaults" all still result in the crashing.
Yeah, I've tested other games. The results were mixed though. certain games like Need For Speed Hot Pursuit 2 would lockup, other games like command and conquer generals seemed to mostly be stable, with a few random crashes. The problem is that I haven't really gotten any true BSODs in games, I just get lockups. However, windows would give BSODs, but they seemed like they were driven by faulty hardware, since it would be random and would go away entirely once I underclocked the ram.
Other times in the past when I've run the ram at 200mhz fsb, windows would randomly crash when I was browsing the web. In those cases it would give me a stop message and an error number. But I haven't gotten then so far today. I can't remember what all the errors were, but there were about 2-3 random crashes related to ntfs.sys and other system files. So at first, I thought maybe it was just a windows problem, but I had just freshly formatted and reinstalled windows, so it seemed unlikely. And of course, the second I changed it back to 166mhz fsb, I was able to keep my computer on for a week, playing half-life 2, doom 3, command and conquer generals, as well as tons of other games and general web browsing without a single incident. So the problem, although highly vague, seems to be related directly to the ram, if just by the fsb change.
I dunno, these are really really odd problems, never encountered these before in like 6 years of tweaking my comps, so I'm guessing that it's either just an incompatibility with my motherboard/ram (in which case I'm screwed), my mobo is broken, or my ram is broken. I think my only real option left, now that I've bought a new $130 cpu to match the ram is to RMA the ram and hope that it somehow works. But the fact that it's been able to pass prime95 and memtest86 flawlessly makes me concerned as to whether or not corsair will be able to diagnose a problem, if there is one, with the ram if I do RMA it. sigh.
I'm not sure if my video card is underpowered, since I have a 550watt psu and the radeon 9800 isn't too much of a hog. But I think I may RMA that as well. damn, I dunno.
*update*
Correction, it seems that now I have a 200mhz fsb cpu, setting the ram to 6:5 for 166mhz causes windows to almost immediately lock up. I'm guessing that's part of the whole unable to run the cpu/ram async thing.
Also, when I tried changing the latency to 2.5 and 3.0, I got the following error:
Many thanks!
~Takeda

K7n2 delta2 platinum no post

I've been using a k7n2 delta2 platinum mobo for a few month with a lot of stability problems running at 200 mhz fsb. This is my configuration: barton 3200+, two 512 nanya 3-3-3-8 ddr400, msi fx-5700 ultra3 card. I tried to run the cpu at 166 mhz and then ram at 200 mhz and the pc didn't post. The d-bracket shows the 'early chipset initialization' error. I tried to clear the bios and all the tricks I found on the net and nothing happened. Is the mobo passed away? I think I need help. Thanks

probably your PSU
start a new topic in SocketA forum, list your hardware specs in details, and list the PSU specs from the label on its side
also, try tapping Insert as you power on your system, to reset clock speeds to safe values

Does K7N2 Delta2 Platinum has nvfirewall?

Hi I have a question.
I a few post I have seen that this board the K7N2 Delta2 Platinum has NVFIREWALL that means that has a hardware Firewall but the problem is that in the three months having it I haven't seen it, I try to install the NAM setup program (Nvidia ForceWare Network Access Manager) in the Ethernet folder of the nForce 5.10 Drivers and allways appears an error related in some User name problem, but the moust conserning (sorry for my english) thing is that with the last version of the drivers the problem was the same thing some user name is not a valid name os something like that, so I want to know if it the K7N2 Delta2 Platinum has or not nvfirewall? right at this moment I'm downloading the beta drivers of the nForce the v6.11 I hope I can installed this time.... :..( Btw: I don't know if some of you owners of the K7N2 delta2 Platinum saw the review on madshripms
http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&articID=216 ... becouse in section 5 core center & live updated, they show a pictre of the Nvidia nForce Networking Controller ( in the system hardware management) the one shown on the photo shows a colourfull management of the reach features of the Ethernet controller but in my system the management is less colourfull, and I wonder if the board reviewed was the same as all the K7N2 Delta's2 Platinum. I hope someone that has this board or has experiences with it help us with this doubts.
Hy sorry for this big post but somehow I have to make my selft understand, and sorry for my english but here in Latin America we don't speak it to much jejeje.

Thanks for your help, I managaged to install the nvfirewall soft with the Beta nForce Drivers v6.11, I didn't install any drivers I only installed the NAM and istalled perfectly, I wonder wy some dude from MSI TW, from technical support say to me on a replay of an e-mail that the K7N2 Delta2 Platinum Based on the Nvidia nForce2 MCP GB plataform don't have nvfirewall, I don't remember quite well what he told me but that was the main reason for the post here, and is quite suspisius that the v5.10 and older are having a lot of problems with the nvfirewall, but well now I have it and now I can say that I managaged to install all the K7N2 Delta2 Platinum features....
BTW: My System is on a Windows XP SP2, connected bia cablemodem Motorola SB5100 whitout router totally free of external firewall, only cablemodem and ISP.
and the two last atemps of installing the 5.10 drivers were on fresh installs of Windows XP SP2.
Thanks for youre help youre great.

K7N2 Delta2 Platinum - J10 / Safe Mode ?

I set my FSB too high and cannot get my system to post. I see plenty of references to the J10 jumper but I do not see that listed in my manual nor can I find it on my motherboard. PLEASE tell me this MB has a jumper for booting in safe mode - this is a new PC I'm setting up for a friend I've tried clearing the CMOS to no avail. System has been stable for days before this.
athlon 3200+
truepower 430
1.5 gig ddr400
2 seagate 200gb hds (RAID 1)
sony dvd burner & dvd rom

Wow, has it only been 3 weeks? Seems like months...in any case, I've now purchased for myself or others 3 MSI boards: 1 K8N Neo Platinum and 2 of the K7N2 Delta2 Platinums. Overall, I'm very happy with these boards. I ended up with 2 of the K7N2s because I decided to RMA the first one (to later be used to upgrade an older PC of mine) and needed another socket A board for a PC that I was putting together for a relative. The long and short of it is that the problem I've detailed in this thread is STILL a problem even after getting it back from MSI earlier today. As far as I can tell it's in the same condition I sent it to them in. The difference now is I have another of these boards that actually works and I can test my RAM, CPU, etc to make sure they are in fact working (which they are) - the name of this story is:
Please Help Me Fix My Damn Board So I Don't Have To RMA It Again
(aka Why the hell did they remove the J10 jumper from this board?)
I've tried...
different PSUs (antec neopower 480w, truepower 430w, some sort of cheap raidmax 450w)
any combination of components you can think of: ram/graphics/cpu only, 2 of those 3 only, 1 of
those 3 only, NOTHING installed on the board at all.
different RAM in different slots - have tried generic pc2100, kingston valueram, kingston hyperx Corsair cmx-1gig
clearing the CMOS, removing the battery, hitting the power button, unplugging the PSU (umm not in that order). I've even said a little voodoo prayer as I replace the JBAT jumper to it's original position.
i've taken the board out of the case (actually i never got it INTO the case today) to make sure it's not shorting somewhere.
no BIOS beeps at all, yes the speaker does work. the D-LED with at least the basic ram/graphics/cpu installed reads #1 green, all the rest red. After a CMOS reset it goes from #1 green, rest red, to #2 green, rest red, then back to #1 green, the rest red.
The only thing I haven't tried is using a CPU with a FSB of 100 - this is mentioned in a few older articles I googled when digging around for ideas. All I have is a couple of 3200+'s - both of which work in the good MB.
HELP...anyone?!? Thanks in advance.

K7N2 DELTA2 PLATINUM - Sound Probs, Very Strange

OK, i bought a brand new K7N2 DELTA2 PLATINUM and it works great, except from the sound which installs and in the system devices it is registered as there without yellow explanation or red cross. Is set to auto not disable in cmos.
When I try playing something it plays but no sound actually comes out. I have checked the front port switch and accourding to the manual (which was wrong over clearing the cmos, thanks guys for helping me solve that) is fine. Cab even adjust volumes in the volume control in windows.
I have tried various different drivers including the included ones and various of the internet. I have the mid Jan versions of all nforce drivers.
Everthing else on comp works fine, though if i leave the computer unplugged at mains for more than a few secs, when i switch back on the keyboard or mouse (ps/2) do not respond and all the light of the keyboard are on whether the computer is on or not. This is solved by unplugging and plugging back in mouse and keyboard.
I have also borrowed a pci card from someone and it works fine.
Please help, suggestions would be much appreciated
Note, other thing is that it is a Realtek ALC650 chip officially though something came up on a program listing system stuff that it s an ALC655; just thought i would include.

Quote from: Dr Stu on 01-February-06, 05:09:51
good idea to try knoppix
if knoppix does work, then back in windows, did you install this audio driver?
http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_audio_4.62_win2kxp.html
just out of interest what was your old motherboard?
It was a shite PC Chips M848A, with some c-media 5.1 audio chip.
Thanks for helping mate.

K7N2 Delta2 Platinum won't boot

I recently bought a K7N2 Delta2 Platinum board (product specifications at http://tinyurl.com/b7u57), but I can't get it to boot. I've searched on these forums but can't find anything that might help me.
WHAT HAPPENS
With just the processor, one RAM stick and graphics card connected, I'm able to turn the PC on with the front switch. The front lights come on and the processor fan starts, but there's no "bleep" and no signal going to the monitor. If I try booting with a hard drive connected, the hard drive does not make the "clicking" sound that it's supposed to.
MY HARDWARE
PSU: 480w (I've also tried with my old 400w PSU)
Processor: Athlon 2800 XP
RAM: 512Mb PC2700 DDR (motherboard manual says it supports PC2700 RAM)
Graphics card: Radeon 9200
All of the above work fine with my old board (also an MSI).
I've also tried my sister's RAM and graphics card with the new one, but it still won't boot.
The jumpers on the board are all at the factory default settings.
Can anyone think of anything that I should try before asking for a replacement?
Thanks in advance!

The D-bracket displays one green light and four red ones:
GR
RR
Which according to the online manual (there's no explanation of the D-bracket codes in the manual provided) means "early chipset initialization". Another thread I found from Googling these words suggests that the problem might be related to my RAM. But the stick I'm using works fine with my other board and I've tried a different stick too.
My PSU is 230v. It has a sticker on it which says "DC output max", followed by the following table:
+3.3v   28a
+5v   35a
+12v   25a
-5v   0.5a
-12v   0.8a
+5vsb   2.5a
Does this mean anything to you?

@Klondike K7N2 Delta2 Platinum, new owner.

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