Kp06 - kp26

hi gurus,
i had a confusion in this area. please let me know the difference. as per as my knowledge in KP06 u have to give ur COST ELEMENT and COST CENTER, in KP26 we have to give ATY TYPE and COST CENTER.
in above senario, we have to do planning of SALARY (COST ELEMENT) for DEPTH (COST CENTER) in KP06.
here we have to do planning for COST ELEMENT or COST CENTER?
in the second senario, whe have to do planning of ACTIVITY TYPE(HOURS) and DEPTH(COST CENTER) in KP26.
means here planning for activity or cost center.
and if we done KP06 and KP26, then what is the uses of KSPI
thanqu
raj

Hi,
When you do your planning in CO, it's done on two levels(dimensions). If you plan, for example, salaries for certain department, you do it for cost element 'Salary' with the combination of cost centre, let's say, 'R&D'. Cost centres are representing organization units, while cost elements are nature of costs. The same attitude stands for activity type. So, your planning is done to the combination of both.
Regards,
Eli

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Use the standard SAP feature for doing this,
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Hi,
Here I am providing the necessity and importance of splitting structure, will share the configuration steps once you go through the following and get the comfort level.
                  Expense Analysis and Splitting in Manufacturing Cost Centers
Introduction In SAP Cost center work as a cost responsibility center, where all the expenses and cost are stored and analyzed for the purpose of management decision making.
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Hello Sri
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Hi:
Fot T.code KSP4 - Overhead ,Refer to sap.help
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