KP26 and KPSI

Hi,
I know we can use transaction KPSI in CO module to transfer the schedule activity to the planned activty but I would like to know if there is a transaction to do the opposite (planned activity to the scheduled activity) or if we can modify manually the scheduled activity ?
I search that because :
- Users have made the PLT
- I have executed the transaction KPSI
- They have modified manually the planned activity after and not the scheduled activity because they can't.
If the two activities are not equal, they can not calculate price correctly.
Thanks in advance for your help,
Regards,
Flora

Ajay,
They don't want to re-execute LTP because they don't have change the quantity, they change only the planned activity.
And in KP26, we can't change manually the schedule activity because it is not accessible.
Do you have an other solution ?
Thanks,
Flora

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1.Is planning under KP26 is manual planning of activity quantities.Then how do we do automatic planning.
2.you can also use indirect activity allocation to plan activity quantities automatically under : Indirect Activity Allocation-how do we do that.
3.Is KSPI optional -i mean if i dont use KP26
thanq and urgent
Edited by: dominocook on Feb 25, 2008 1:04 PM

Dear,
1) KP26-Activity Planning
2) KP06-Cost element Planning
3) KSPI- Price calculation
In KP06 we are planning input based on primary cost element. Sametime in KP26 we are planning the capacity based on secondary cost element.
The activity rate will be calculated only based on your secondary element. While creating an Activity type you will be assigning a secondary cost element in the master data, which will capture the cost during confirmation of order. Hence the planning cost by logic will also captured from the secondary cost elements only.
In KP06 u have to give ur COST ELEMENT and COST CENTER, in KP26 we have to give Activity Type rate for perticural time period say year and they are assign to the COST CENTER
KSPI is use to get average of planned price
Hope it will help you.
Regards,
R.Brhmankar

KP26 and KP27

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User has updated plan values in KP26 for the year 2010 in the year begining 2010
Now when he is checking the values in KP27 and values showing '0", could you please let me know where to view the change log

Hi,
Please give the version 0 and from perio-to period and Cost center & Activity groups or from range and to range. May be you are displaying with wrong input values..
try and see now with from and to ranges for cost center and activity values.
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Activity prices in KP26 used for actual and plan in version 0

We plan activity prices via KP26 in version 0. We then plan activity consumption via KP06, and run the plan reconciliation via KPSI.
During the year, we need to update the activity prices used in actual activity allocation. This price also comes from version 0.
When we change the activity price, the planned amounts change also. We are looking for a way to maintain a separate price for actual activity allocation.

Ajay,
Your answer definitely sent me down the right path...thank you!
For other's benefit, these are the steps I took to make this work:
1) set the "Purely Iter. Price" indicator in plan version 0
2) import planning layout 1-N01 from client 000 (OBKF)
3) add planning area "Cctr: Manual actual prices" to planning layout SAPALL (KP34)
4) add planning layout 1-N01 to planner profile SAPALL (KP34)
5) create and run custom program from note 551309 to add cost element field to the input screen in KBK6 (SE38)
6) transport planning layout for planning area "Cctr: Manual actual prices" (OKEX)
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Could anyone explain me when to use KP06 and when to use KP26 and the basic technical difference between these two transaction codes.
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DSK

Hi,
KP06 is used to plan the primary costs (cost elements). You can do it activity dependent or independent. KP26 is used to enter prices to activity types which will then cause cost allocation via secondary cost elements while psoting figures on those activity types.
Refer to this link for further info:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/42/93f9471a5211d2929624d304c10000/frameset.htm
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KPSI (RKNMABTC) on company code level

Hello,
I would like to ask, if somebody of you have already tried following:
We would like to run the KPSI (Plan reconciliation / target = actual-IAA) on company code level. It is possible e.g. if create an appropriate cost center group. The problem is, that if the KPSI already runs for other company code, error message KI718 appears.
Error message KI718: "Planning locked by user &1. User is planning in controlling area XXXX, version XXX . Thus, plan reconciliation with update posting is not possible."
That means, that it is not possible to run two or more parallel plan reconciliations, it they refer to the same controlling area and version.
In my opinion this possibility should be offered by SAP, as you can have many companies within the same controlling area, which process their planning for their cost centers independet from the other companies.
Can anybody of you offer some solution?
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Hi Greta
My interest in this thread has increased, seeing you are from SAP
Peter was not ref to KSPI, but to KPSI...
The design of OMIK is such that, you can not execute LTP and KPSI for 2 company codes simultaneouly in all circumstances...
You have to maintain the parameters in OMIK for one Plant, Run LTP, Delete the entry in OMIK and then again repeat the steps for 2nd company code.... You can refer the OSS msg 1015121 / 2008 that I raised to SAP and the Development Request (DR) No that I provided earlier in my reply
In My case, it was one Contr Area and 14 comp codes, so obviously, not possbile to run LTP for all of them at once....
My only point is when SAP allows and recommends to have one contr area and multi company codes - Then all other transactions including OMIK should permit me to maintain the required parameters at both KOKRS and BUKRS level...
I would be thankful if you can let me know any updates on the DR no that I mentioned
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RKP2 and RKP3 - Planning activities by cost center

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I'm having a problem with planning in activity-based costing. I planned an activity in a cost center, executed transaction KP26 and then the transaction CP06. The plan is executed, but when i see Line items, for CO plan documents, i see that system created two documents, one with the object RKP3, which debit the activity and credit the cost center. This is what is supposed, but when i checked the cost center, the value was again debited, which used object RKP2, with just one debit in the cost center.
My question is: why system restore the value that i wanted to distribute from the cost center to activity, first correctly in RKP3 and then (not supposed..), in RKP2.
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CO transaction and entries in the table

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I want to delete a record in KP26 and I am getting an error "costs already posted on this cost center/activity type combination.
After investiging I found that there are entries in tables COKA, CSSL and COSSA. So, how can get rid of these entries in these table and delete the activity type planning record for the cost center in KP26
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What is the activity quantity in KSII and how is it arrived

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Could any body help me to understand what is the activity quantity in KSII. How will we arrive at the figure we get when we run KSII.
I know the that we would be giving theplanned cost in KP06, planned activity quantity in KP26 and then when we run the price calculation in KSPI we get the total price for the cost center and the activity type. This is what is the planned total price for a period.
I am unable to understand the differece between the planned and the standard cost. Please help me with an example.
Standard cost is planned cost * actual hours, correct me if I am wrong.
Please assist,
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Shilpa.

Hi Shipla ,
You have two questions :-
1. How to get activity quantity in KSII
KSII is actual price calculation . Actual Price = Actual Cost/ Actual Qty..
Actual quantty is derived from quantity confirmed in production/process order and direct activity allocation done to the cost center . If you see a Cost Center Plan/Actual variance report.. you can see the actual quantity booked in a process Order . Actual Cost is the cost booked into the cost centers ..from FI/CO /IO settlement etc ..
During Actual costing , activity costs are generally booked at plan rate ( KP26). In KSII , actual price is computed and the difference is allocated to the cost centers.
2. Standard cost is planned cost * actual hours
No , plan cost is the cost you have planned for the year . You can use the plan cost to create a cost estimate . This cost estimate can be used as standard cost or for any anaylsis purpose..
Always remeber that purpose of product cost planning is to compute product cost estimate . This estimate may be used as standard costs.
Hope it clarifies..
Regards
Sarada

KP26 understanding

Hi:
I have understood the process of KP06 now i am on to KP26. I have gone through Google but could not find any helpful material that could satisfy my queries. In KP26 we give cost center and then assign an activity type to it , give in plan activity and save, now what next...What system does when we have planned values in KP26 and what is the step next to it. I am not conceptually clear about KP26 usability. Request experts to guide me...
Regards
Moderator: No need to go through Google for this point; help.sap.com should be sufficient

Hi Farooq,
KP26 is used in product costing and cost center accounting and has two perspectives.
1. Product costing : When production is confirmed in the PP module (through CO11N) by the production person, the conversion cost (eg machine hour cost) is debited to the production order and credited to the cost center. The amount debited is equal to quantity (of machine hours) multiplied by cost per machine hour. This cost/ activity unit is mentioned in KP26 for every combination of costcenter and activity type. As explained above this is further used in automatic price calculation of activities using KSPI,KSII etc.
2. As explained in point 1, when production is updated cost center is credited with the amount as explained. The cost center is derived from the work center used and rate from KP26. This is used to analyse cost center over and under absorption.
Hope this helps.
Best Regards
Vimal

KP26 Planned Actvity

Dear All,
Can you let me know what is the use of Planned activity / Capacity in KP26 and also Price(fixed) and Variable,etc and how it influence while executing the transaction( Cost Extimation).
How the system makes the calculation. explain with an example.
Also let me know the difference between KP26 & KP06 , I am bit confussed between KP26 and KP06.
Regards,

Dear Ranjan,
Thanks for the reply.
Can you let me know the below mentioned points.
I have a Cost Center : Labour Cost and Activity as Labour.
I have asigned the cost center and Activity in KP26 with a plan price indicator 1
In Plan activity column i have given 15000 and in variable price column i have given 2500 for 100 units.
When i am executing kspi,the system is displaying Activity Qnty :80000 Total price :2425 and variable price 2425 for 100 units for the current period(also to all previous periods).
Now what is this 80000 units, from where it has updated and why the price is changed to 2425 from 2500(given in KP26).
Also let me know how can i find the cost element for KP06 from KP26 details.
When i am providing the the above combination along with the cost element (which is in KP26) to KP06 system is prompting an error as "Cost element xxxxxxxx can only be used for activity input".
Kindly suggest.
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Activity Price thru KP26 & KP06

I want a clarification regarding activity price calculation:
- I know that we can manually enter the activity quantity and variable/fixed rates in kP26. If that is the case, what is the purpose of quantity that is entered in KP26 ?
- Other way, we can plan the cost element in the cost centre and later on maintain the quantity in KP26 and do the KSPI (plan run) and the system will calculate the prices. In this case, I hope, system will be calculating the fixed price only. What about the variable price then ?

hi nikitha..
   I am really confused to see the various comments on this issue. Basic requirement is to calculate fixed & variablr price after KSPI run
If you follow the steps below your purpose will serve:
KP06      1-101     Cost Centre Planning - element planning (Fixed value & Variable Value)
      1-102     Activity Distribution to findout Fixed/Variable Price
          if both are required paln Variable quanty
          otherwise Fixed qty
KP26      1-201     Activity Planning (Activity qty)
You have to use both the layout in KP06 & remember the total activity qty you have planned in KP26 that should match you activity distribution in KP06 (1-102 layout)
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Restrict work order confirmation without activity price in KP26.

HI Guys,
we are maintaining the activity price in KP26 for mandays activity and confirming it in IW41. Now if activity price is not maintained in KP26, and confirming the mandays in IW41, system should through an error message. please let me know how can i do this.
Anil Kumar. V

Hi
you can check the SPRO in Define Control Parameters for Completion Confirmations where you can mark the Actual cost , and Termination for incorrect act cost. where in it will through an error which confirming the same.
If the above conditions don't met your requirement you can check the same using user exit
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The purpose of the Variable price column in KP26

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We are updating the time sheets from Non-Sap to Sap. We are in need of entering the activity prices.
We have given the planned activity in Kp26 and have run a price calculation in KSPI.
When we run the KSPI, we get the fixed price column filled with the planned price i.e, if my planned total cost in Kp06 is 100 and my planned activity type in KSPI is 10, then my activity price is 100/10=10 and this is updated in fixed price column.
I just want to know about the variable price column with an example.
For the actuals we are supposed to fill KBK6 with the actual activity price and have to run a price calculation in KSII.
Is it any how possible to give the actuals in KP26 instead of giving the same in KBK6.
We have this chaos because earlier for 2009 they have not maitnained the actuals either in Kp26 and in Kbk6.
Please assist
Thanks,
Shilpa.

Hi Shilpa
KP26 is meant for Plan price... and KBK6 for actual prices... You can not use one for the other
You will use Variable and Fixed costs when you have scenario of semi variable costs where some portion of expense is fixed and some is variable.....
Regards
Ajay M

Cost center planning data table and transaction code to view

Hi,
I want to see the cost center planning document. In which transaction code, I can see this document.
In which table, cost center planning data is stored?
Regards,
VS ramaiah
Moderator: Please, search SDN

Hello,
I do not think that COEP contains the plan line items*. For plan line items it is COEJ. But as suggested by Christian the better option in case you want to create a report is you use COSS/COSP and COST. The latter is for activity type planning (KP26) and the other two are for cost planning (KP06).
The transactions to view the plan document is KABP and line items is KSBP.
* Christian, do correct me if I'm wrong. I was not able to see anything with value type 01 in COEP.
Kind Regards // Shaubhik

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