KSS1 - Variance calculation on cost centers
Hello,
i ran KSS1 but the variance calculated is the difference between actual and planned amounts (in my scenario planned = target).
Actually, i'd like to calculate and book the variance between costs booked on cost centers and absorptions coming from labour hours. At the end the aim is post somewhere the over/under absorption of production cost centers.
Any suggestion?
Thanks,
Reagrds
Enrico
Hi,
i must settlement product order, so i need variance calculation. So can i settlement variances to FI only for some components of BOM and one variances of one component leave on procuct order? Or can i settlement variances of one component of BOM to other cost centrum than others components (alternatively under other cost elements)? Maybe substition.... If yes, how?
Thanks a lot,
Gustavo
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How do we calculate Product variance?
What is the procedure / process?
Where can the effect be seen?
Edited by: Bhatia on Oct 15, 2008 6:44 PMHi,
Variance Calculation
As long the production order is not fully delivered or flagged Technical Complete the remaining order balance is treated as WIP. Otherwise the order balance shows up in variance calculation.
If a lot-based product-controlling WIP, is valuated at actual costs. The WIP is calculated as the difference between the debit and credit of an order as long as the order does not have the status DLV (delivered).
In lot-based product controlling the variances are not calculated until the order has the status DLV (finally delivered) or TECO (technically completed). This means that at the time the order has reached this status, the system no longer interprets the difference between the debit and the credit as work in process but as a variance. In lot-based product controlling orders never have work in process and variances at the same time.
Variance calculation compares the actual costs incurred for the production/process order with the target costs according to the standard cost estimate for the finished material, and assigns the individual variances to variance categories. The target costs are calculated using the quantity delivered for the order.
In this way you can find out which variances occurred between the value of the delivery and the actual costs and you can find the reason for the posting to the price difference account for materials with standard price control.
Variances from production (target version 1)
Variance calculation compares the actual costs incurred for the production order with the target costs for the production order and assigns the individual variances to variance categories. The target costs are calculated using the quantity delivered for the order.
This enables variance calculation to find out which variances occurred between the time the production order was created and the end of the production process.
Variances from planning (target version 2):
Variance calculation compares the planned costs for the production order with the target costs according to the standard cost estimate for the finished material, and assigns the individual variances to variance categories. The target costs are calculated using the quantity delivered for the order.
This enables variance calculation to find out which variance occurred between the time the standard cost estimate was created and the time the production order was created.
Variance categories:
The system assigns every variance to a variance category. The variance category indicates the cause of the variance (such as price change, lot-size variance). Variances are updated to the information system and passed on to Profitability Analysis according to variance category.
You differentiate between variance categories on the input side and on the output side:
u2022 Variances that occur because of goods issues, internal activity allocations, overhead and G/L account postings are displayed on the input side. Price variances, quantity variances, resource-usage variances and input variances are displayed on the input side.
u2022 Variances that occur because too little or too much of the planned order quantity were delivered, or because the delivered quantity was valuated differently are displayed on the output side.
Variances on the output side occur when you deliver using a price that differs from that found by dividing the target costs and the delivered quantity. If you deliver using the standard price, a variance can occur when the order lot size differs from the costing lot size. This is displayed as a lot-size variance.
For config
3.1.4.2 Variances & Settlement
Variance Calculation determines differences between the actual costs incurred on a production order and the standard costs of the material produced. Variances are calculated not at once, but for different variance categories. The variances computed are then transferred to CO-PA.
3.1.4.2.1 Define Default Variance Keys for Plants
Use
The Variance Key is part of the order header and controls variance calculation. The system selects the value set by this step as default value when a material master is created. From the material master the variance key then is transferred to the order when an order for the material is created.
Procedure
1. Access the activity using one of the following navigation options:
Transaction Code OKVW
IMG Menu Controlling Product Cost Controlling Cost Object Controlling Product Cost by Order Period End Closing Variance Calculation -> Define Default Variance Keys for Plants
2. Make the following entries:
Plant Variance Key
BP01 000001
BP02 000001
BP03 000001
BP0X 000001
3.1.4.2.2 Define Target Cost Versions
Use
The target cost version controls various parameters related to calculation of target costs in variance calculation. In variance calculation, target costs are needed as a comparison to the actual costs incurred.
Procedure
1. Access the activity using one of the following navigation options:
Transaction Code OKV6
IMG Menu Controlling Product Cost Controlling Cost Object Controlling Product Cost by Order Period End Closing Variance Calculation Define Target Cost Versions
2. Choose New entries and enter the following values or copy from default settings of CoArea 0001 to BP01:
CoArea TgtCostVsn Text Variance Variant Control Cost Target Cost
BP01 0 Target Costs for Total Variances 001 Actual Costs Current Std cost Est
BP01 1 Target costs for production variances 001 Actual Costs Plan Costs / Preliminary Cost Estimate
BP01 2 Target costs for planning variances 001 Plan Costs Current Std cost Est
3.1.4.2.3 Create Settlement Profile
Use
The settlement profile controls various parameters related to settlement.
Prerequisites
Allocation Structure
Procedure
1. Access the activity using one of the following navigation options:
Transaction Code SPRO
IMG Menu Controlling Product Cost Controlling Cost Object Controlling Product Cost by Order Period-End Closing Settlement Create Settlement Profile
2. Choose New Entries and enter header data. Then for each new entry choose Details and enter remaining data.
3. Overview of data records:
Profile Text
YGPI00 BP Process Order w/o CO-PA
YGPP00 BP Production Order w/o CO-PA
YGPI00 YGPP00
Actual costs/costs of sales
To be settled in full X X
Can be settled
Not for settlement
Default Values
Allocation Structure A1 A1
Source Structure
PA Transfer Struct.
Default object Type
Indicators
100% Validation X X
%-Settlement X X
Equivalence Nou2019s X X
Amount Settlement
Var. to co. bsd. PA
Valid receivers
G/L account N N
Cost center O O
Order O O
WBS Element O O
Fixed asset N N
Material O O
Network N N
Profit. Segment N N
Sales order O O
Cost objects O O
Order item O O
Business proc. N N
Real est. object N N
Other parameters
Document type SA SA
Max.no.dist.rls 3 3
Residence time 3 3
You have to assign Variance Key in material master for semi-finished and Finished goods in costing 1 tab also.
To Execute
KKS1-Collective Variance calculation
KKS2-Individual Variance calculation
CO88-Collective settlement
KO88-Individual settlement
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S_ALR_87013611: Cost Centers: Actual/Plan/Variance
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I am needing some help in understanding the Cost Centers: Actual/Plan/Variance report S_ALR_87013611. I understand the basic concept, but I am having trouble figuring out how it comes up with its numbers in the "Total Value in Report Currency" field.
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22nd June,2014 Variance calculated, on 30th WIP entery also reversed with the same amount.
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Now they would like to settle the Process in the Month of July. system is throwing the error " Status DLV/TECHO reversed after settlement period 006.2014"
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Hi all,
I have a question on Target cost calculation in Process Order. My understanding is, the Target Costs gets calculated when the confirmation and GR is made for the Process Order.
But if the confirmation/GR is not done, whether the target costs gets calculated for only the activity types after the Variance Calculation (KKS2).
I have two scenarios. In one, the target costs got calculated for the activity types without the confirmation/GR after the Variance calculation.
In another scenario, the target costs are not getting calculated for the activity types without the confirmation/GR if I try to do the variance calculation in KKS2.
SO i want to know which scenario is correct?
Can anyone answer this question?
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BrijeshHi,
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Target costs for the components and the activities are updated only once you deliver the order and the target cost for the finished product gets updated when you do the variance calculation.
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Go to customization settings in variance analysis calculation and change the costing version from 0 to 1.
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I have an issue reconciling variances in product costing when I run S_ALR_87013139 - Cumulative. For instance I am getting results like below
Tgt (Dts) Actual (Dbts) Scrap Variance WIP Control Costs
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I was expecting
Variance = (Actual Debits - WIP credited) - Target Debits.
But it is not so. Am I missing something here
Would also appreciate if someone could tell
1. What does the target cost mean/how is it different from planned costs.
2. When is the target cost calculated? Is it only after the order is complete and variance calculation in KKS2. I also fing that whenever a production order is created I dont get target costs. Only planned costs are there.
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1) Target costs = Actual qty delivered X standard costs ( as per standard cost estimate for the material). This means standard costs for actual goods delivered to stock. Planned costs means standard cost for planned qty of production order
2) Variances are calculated if the status of the order is either DLV or Teco and if material is issued and activities are confirmed. WIP is cancelled and variances are calculated
3) When u create production order - system only calculated planned costs of the order for planned quantities. Target costs are calculated only when goods are delivered to stock for the order either partially or full. Even if one qty is delivered to stock target costs gets calculated
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I managed to activate assessment to Production orders in BS12.
I activated business transactiun RKIU for PP orders object.
Now it's possible to allocate OH costs from Cost centers to production orders.
However, I have some problem of other nature.
When I do the standard price calculation - the Overhead costs from Production Departament CC are calculated as % overhead using costing sheet. It is done by cost element with cost element ctg 41.
The actual OH costs from Cost centers are allocated using assessment. Other cost elements with cost element category 42 are being used here.
How will the system calculate production variances in this case?
Do u think it is possible to match these two different cost elements?
Will this CE with 41 ctg be considered during variances calculation and if yes - which variance category will it be.
I am uncertain about that, cause in normal cases - activitity CE or materials consumption CE are the same in actual and target. In my case overhead CE are different in actual and in target.
Can u help me with that?
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KarolIt's looks like you are right. I've made production version for configured material and production order created. Thanks.
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Allocating Standard and Variances of Production Costs into CO-PA
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I would like to ask you about the process of allocating eg. humal labour into CO-PA.
Lets have an example:
We have planned to spend 10 hours on some action. But actually we have spent 20 hours.
When we allocate our time from some PC, we have to allocate actuals, that means 20 hours, which will come into CO-PA online.
At the end of the period we run Production Order Settlement and find the variance.
What will now happen do distinquish between the planned costs and variances?
Thanks in advance for your answers!
Kindly Regards,
RadekHi,
I am not really sure about your question
We have planned to spend 10 hours on some action. But actually we have spent 20 hours.
When we allocate our time from some PC, we have to allocate actuals, that means 20 hours, which will come into CO-PA online.
At the end of the period we run Production Order Settlement and find the variance
The 20 hours will only flow to Production order and not to COPA online.
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I hope i touched your question.
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