KT3 Ultra 2 processor upgrade

I currently have a kt3 ultra 2 mobo with xp 2000 and 2100 ddr, bios version 5.6 running stock clock 266 fsb. I just orderd a xp 2800 barton. Do I have to update bios to version 5.7? and if I do is live update reliable? Do I have to purchase 2700 ddr for the system to run at 333 fsb speeds? I have never flashed a bios or changed a processor so any suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated.

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Do I have to update bios to version 5.7?
I'm not really sure but I think so. But it wouldn't do any harm anyway...
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and if I do is live update reliable?
I would suggest manual flashing.
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Do I have to purchase 2700 ddr for the system to run at 333 fsb speeds?
Yepp.
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so any suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated.
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    Hi
    I have been building my new PC for the last few month now it need 1 part a cpu. will the new AMD xp2400 be compaterble with my MSI KT3 Ultra Aru v1.0?
    if not what is the highest cpu it will take
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    Widowmaker  
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    I've just bought my first AMD powered rig and I'm not able to install W2K pro.   First let me say I'm not a computer novice and have been handling workstation/server hardware/software for years in the Intel world.
    The failure happens at different places in the install, with different results.. sometimes while copying files the system freezes.. sometimes in the middle of a copy i get the BlueSOD... sometimes after copying files when booting into Windows 2000 for the first time the system just reboots to a black screen and is unable to find a boot partition... so we start over and the install deletes copied files and begins again.
    KT3 Ultra ARU
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    Corsair CMX512-3000C2
    Pri IDE M - Seagate ST313021A 13GB
    Pri IDE S - Sony CDROM CDU6111-F
    Sec IDE M - Asus CDRW 4012-A
    Sec IDE S - none
    Raid Disabled in Bios
    Followed Mr.Steveo's guides for hardware installation, flashing BIOS from 5.4 (kept a copy) to 5.5.  No problems.
    Followed Mr.Steveo's guide for BIOS settings, using his recommendations to the letter, then after failure changed  SRRAM freq: to HCLK+66 for 3000C2 ram... BUT still fails.
    Additional detail - I lost my original W2KPro CD, and my copy is not bootable... so I'm creating a 2GB DOS partition and booting with a Win98 boot disk to get to the CD and running WINNT from there.
    I've gone through the posts on both the AMDMB and MSI forums and seen some insightful suggestions... but nothing that exactly duplicates by problems.  Hopefully one of you bright bulbs will be able to light my way.  :D
    When I get the BSOD I get different STOP errors:
    0x0000000A  IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
                (BIOS or Drivers using improper memory address)
    0x0000001E  KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED
                (A kernel mode process tried to execute an illegal or unknown processor instruction)
    HELP !!

    Back Rev'd the Bios to 5.4 but that didn't help.  Back to the forums...  
    Bas - Thanks for reminding me of the KISS principle (Keep It Simple Stupid).  I had simplified the HW but was still altering the Bios settings to where I know they should be.
    WELL - I HAVE SUCCESS !!
    In further research, (being new to this - remember?) I also find threads saying that I'm supposed to clear the CMOS/NVRAM using a motherboard jumper before powering up the board for the first time and after changing processors.  I don't know how accurate that is - maybe someone will be kind enough to elaborate.  
    I've asked Mr.Steveo in the AMDMB forums if he thinks this step needs to be included in his hardware installation guide.  I followed it religiously in my install and it doesn't mention doing this.
    Anyway, I got the OS installed.  After that, I went back into the Bios and added all suggested settings.  I'm getting "2200+" in the boot screens and in the OS.
    Now lets finish the install and see if we remain stable.  After several days of burnin, I'll OC some to see what I can get.
    Thanks Guys!!

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