KT3 Ultra ARU - Restricted Voltages?

I'm running a MSI KT3 Ultra ARU with an Athlon 1700+ tbred. I was trying to adjust the voltage, but the max I can put it at is 1.6V (the default voltage for my chip is 1.5V). Now, I know the board can go higher for sure, because prior to this tbred, I was running a Palomino, and I had the voltage at 1.85V. But now, the max it allows me to select is 1.6V. Is there a way to "unlock" the voltage so I can bump it up past 1.6V?

This seems to be the #1 complaint for the kt3-ultra series. I'd too like to find a way(without mods) to get the voltage past 1.6 on my tbredA. I heard they may be releasing a new bios(at least for my ultra2) but I doubt it'll affect the voltage adjustments. It'll Probably just have a few bug fixes and barton support.

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    Hi There,
       Before buying a new Motherboard I was just wondering if the problems I'm getting are related to the PSU which is about 5 years old. I've just upgraded my processor to a Athlon 3000 XP 333 FSB which goes into the MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU (MS-6380E v1.X) motherbaord, which I've upgraded the Bios to version 5.7, I've also  upgraded my graphics card to the Leadtek Geforce FX5900XT which also plugs into the PSU. When setting my fsb to 166 my PC either won't boot or when I try to run say 3DMark it just freezes, but when I set my FSB to 133 it works fine. I was wondering if it is trying to draw too much power from the CPU.
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    Power Man MN :- FSP 300 - 60 BT
    AC Input - 115/230v~, 10/5A, 60/50 HZ
    DC Output - +3.3V  14.0A(org), +5V - 30.0A(red), +12v - 11.0A (yel) + 5VSB
                    -  2.0A (purp), -5V - 0.3A (white), -12V - 0.8A(blue)
    Fuse Rating 6.3A, 250V
    Max Output Power 300W (+3.3V&+5V=150W Max)
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  • MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU power supply problem

    Hello !
    I am a lucky owner of MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU motherboard but have one problem. My power supply Fortron (FSP Group) 300-GT 300W seems to have some kind of incompatibility with this motherboard. In my case, the computer can't be shutted down by software. With BIOS version 2.5 it was impossible to shut it down with button too. With 2.6 it is possible to turn the computer off by button but software shutdown still don't work. PSU is working on ALL other boards I have tested so far normally. Somewhere in discussions (not in this forums) I discovered that also some kind of weird sounds occurs with Fortron supply on this board and that it is incompatible. Have anyone some clues to solve this PSU problem ? I am not able momentally to buy some other kind of PSU because Fortron is the only brand from higher category to obtain, so I would be like to solve this.....
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    w83697hf-isa-0290
    Adapter: ISA adapter
    Algorithm: ISA algorithm
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    +3.3V:     +3.34 V  (min =  +2.97 V, max =  +3.63 V)
    +5V:       +4.89 V  (min =  +4.50 V, max =  +5.48 V)
    +12V:     +11.89 V  (min = +10.79 V, max = +13.11 V)
    -12V:     -12.44 V  (min = -13.21 V, max = -10.90 V)
    -5V:       -5.01 V  (min =  -5.51 V, max =  -4.51 V)
    V5SB:      +5.51 V  (min =  +4.50 V, max =  +5.48 V)
    VBat:      +3.42 V  (min =  +2.70 V, max =  +3.29 V)
    fan1:     4560 RPM  (min = 1500 RPM, div = 4)
    fan2:     2033 RPM  (min = 1500 RPM, div = 4)
    temp1:       +40°C  (limit =  +60°C)                       sensor = thermistor
    temp2:     +44.5°C  (limit =  +60°C, hysteresis =  +50°C) sensor = thermistor
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  • PC Component power requirements on a KT3 Ultra-ARU: ANSWERS - At last

    G'Day Folk,
    First, my PC specs are as below in my sig.
    Second, I know this is an old motherboard, but I would like to keep it going, and make the best of it for another year or so. Any help would be greatly appreciated, and would help two other users!
    Symptoms:
    Minor stability and performance issues, mostly in games, simulators, or doing high resolution photographics processing. I bought three machines with similar specs in 2002, for my brother, father, and myself. Each has had some hard to nail down, intermittent problems. My brother's PC has had a new motherboard and processor after failure of the KT3, but still has some niggling problems. He also has an XP 2600+ running at 65C !
    More recently I have been able to reliably reproduce graphics problems in Empire Earth II, Serious Sam, and Halo. Specifically, I can create the problem in an Empire Earth II game by running a saved game and looking at a specific spot on the map. The screen shows tearing, and eventually goes black, returning to normal dispaly when I move to a different part of the map. In certain Halo games I could cause the problem by looking in a specific direction. I assume this is because what is being displayed is using different or more graphics processing features, although it is not apparent what they may be from the content of the view.
    Being able to reliably reproduce the problem allowed me to actually analyse the cause.
    Diagnosis:
    After upgrading all drivers, and trying everything I could think of, as well as everything I could find on the web, especially in this forum, I have narrowed the problem down to the power supply. The clincher for me is that when I create the problem the 3.3Volt power supply line (rail) drops to as low as 2.45Volts! The +5V line also fluctuates and drops as low as 4.81Volt. This was measured using MBM5 and MBM5 Log. The usual voltages reported by MBM5 at idle are +3.3V rail = 2.99 to 3.01 Volt, +5V rail = 4.92 to 4.95 Volt.
    Okay, so the +5V rail stays in spec (just), but the +3.3V rail is out of spec (+/- 5%) even at idle. It should be at least 3.135Volt.
    I checked the voltages with and without the problem using an analogue volt meter, as software voltage readings are often low. The volt meter is a little slow to respond to the voltage fluctuations, but did confirm that at idle the +3.3V rail was less than 3.1Volt (out of spec), and with the problem occuring, dropped at least to 2.8Volt.
    As you can see below my power supply should be able to handle all I throw at it. Topower isn't the greatest brand, but it does receive "satisfactory" in reviews on Tom's Hardware and such. I suspect it (and my brother's and father's) has always been weak, although age, or more powerful games may be highlighting the problem.
    Solution:
    Get a new power supply.
    Not so simple these days, particularly if you want to upgrade in the future, with the move to powering components using the 12Volt rail. I want a power supply that will power my current +3.3V and +5V hungry motherboard, plus future 12V requirements, if possible. So I am doing a Power Audit of my PC, hence . . .
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    I have collected power requirements for most of my components in Ampere by supply voltage. However, details are hard to lock down. I'll jump straight into specific questions.
    1. The Athlon XP 2100+ draws a maximum of 89.9Watts into the Voltage Regulator Module (VRM), which converts it to the CPU supply voltage of 1.75Volt. (About 51Amps. Ouch!) If this is sourced from the +12V rail as suggested by the AMD Athlon Desktop Builders Guide, then this would be 7.49Amp, and would not effect the +3.3V and +5V rails unless the total power capacity of the supply is being exceeded. However, the CPU power source was changed from the +3.3V and +5V lines to the +12V lines around the time of the XP2100+. I don't know what MSI did on my motherboard.
    Can anyone confirm which voltage rail is used to power the XP 2100+ on the KT3 Ultra ARU motherboard?
    2. I have found average power usages for motherboards of around 25 Watt on many web sites, but can't confirm the power used by the KT3. Does anyone know the maximum current (Amps) for each voltage rail from the power supply for this motherboard?
    3. Memory power requirements also vary a lot on the web. I'm using 10Watt each on the +3.3V rail for two sticks of 512MB DDR Corsair. Can anybody confirm this, for the KT3? (10W per stick seems to have been the standard since 128MB sticks came out!)
    4. I have a GeForce 4 Ti 4600 AGP graphics card. (Okay, it's not an MSI, but the power should be similar across brands.) There are several threads that suggest that this card uses lots of +3.3V and +5V power from the AGP slot. (Wonkanoby?) However, none give actual Amps for each rail. Anybody know?
    5. In case anybody knows, I can't find actual power for an Audigy 2 ZS either. Any suggestions?
    As modern power supplies tend to have reduced +3.3V and +5V capacity in favour of +12V, I need to be pretty sure of the actual requirements on these rails before buying a new supply. I could just "go and by the biggest Antec I can find and don't worry about it", but I might find that it has the same problems my existing one does.
    All help greatly appreciated. Selection of a new PSU could fix three PCs, mine, my brother's, and my father's.
    PS: My apologies to those I told that this was a great power supply. Well, it has great specs, and the problems observed couldn't be tied to it until recently. Bummer really.
    PPS: Sorry for the long post, but it's an interesting, and important topic, isn't it?
    UPDATE: See post on 1st March, 2006 for response from vendors and updated table of component requirements.
    Here is a copy of my signature in case I change it in the future, just for context.
    MSI KT3 Ultra ARU (MS-6380E V1.0),  AMI BIOS 5.7
    AMD Athlon XP 2100+ Palomino 1.73GHz @13 x 133 FSB
    2x Corsair CMX-512-3000C2 512MB 2-2-2-5-1T @333MHz
    Leadtek GeForce4 Ti 4600 Winfast A250 Ultra MyVIVO 128MB (AGP)
    Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS
    2x WD Caviar WD1200JB 120GB 7200RPM 8MB Cache,
              each drive enclosed in a Scythe Silent Box Heatlane HDD Enclosure
    CD&DVD Plextor PX320A & Pioneer DVR-A09P
    Topower PSU 470W PFC 3.3+5V=235W +3.3V/26A, +5V/47A, +12V/28A
    mCubed T-Balancer Fan Controller,
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    Zalman CNPS6000-Cu & ZM-NB32J NB HS
    ~ 10-20C over ambient
    Lian-Li PC-60 Case, WinXP ProSP2+

    Try the link below, this will tell you what you need. After you added all you hardware and get the final power result add 50% to this and you will have the proper size P/S needed for your system. You can even make a list of future upgrades you want to do and that way you can see what P/S will work for you now in the present and what you would need in the future, just remember to add 50% to what ever total you add up.
    For example, if the P/S calculator says you have a total draw of 279W then you would add 50% to this;
    279+50%=418.5
    http://www.extreme.outervision.com/index.jsp
    Below I have pasted a piece that I made for determing P/S which may help you to;
    Resets are a P/S issue and lock-ups are most likely due to your graphic card, with that said I will give you a table with which you can determine the proper P/S for your system and a little info just for info.
    I must also add that never trust software to tell you your voltages, this includes the BIOs as the BIOs is just a piece of software. To properly check the voltage one must use a digi-VOM.
    A 7200rpm HD draws around 20 watts, this 20 watts includes both the 5v & 12V rail.
    HD and CD's generally are figured at 2 Amps per device, let’s brake this down some.
    Spin-up: 12V x 1.3A + 5V x 650mA = 19W
    Read/Write/Idle: 12V x 350mA + 5V x 700mA = 7.75W
    Seek: 12V x 675mA + 5V x 725mA = 12W
    Those would be typical for a 7200 rpm IDE drive. As you can see a HD requires more power at start-up then during actual operation. This is why sometimes a PC takes a few tries to start up before it will actually make a successful boot and once it boots to windows all seems well or sometimes a occasional restart, which would indicate a weak/ bad P/S.
    Now to find the power used by the CPU you can check either AMD or Intel for the spec sheets on that CPU or you can follow this link that has tons of CPU ratings, CPU specs.
    Some more basic mathematics… When a 12-volt circuit is drawing 10 amps, it is consuming 120 WATTS of electrical power. 12 Volts X 10 Amps = 120 WATTS.
    This is the formula: P = E x I
    P - Watt (power)
    E – Voltage (electrical pressure)
    I – Amperage (current flow)
    Serial/PS-2 ports draw <35mA and if you have USB ports then they have a maximum of 500mA per port, again only if they are used- no use means no draw.
    The PCI slots are allowed 5A of the +5V, 0.5A of the +12V and 7.6A of the 3.3V Max per slot, again that is if the slots are used. So if the serial ports, PS-2 and USB ports are being used you are looking at around 5A draw on the MB, which would be around 20 Watts.
    So now we can add things up. (This is just an example of a basic system)
    MB=20W
    CPU= 60W, used as a norm.
    HD=20W
    CDRW=25W
    DVD=20W
    Graphic card=15W / newer GF4 and ATI 9000 and up= 35W
    RAM 10 Watts per 128 MB
    Network Card 5 Watts
    Average per PCI Card 8 Watts
    Total around 200W for this example.
    Now this will fall on different rails and that is were things get tricky, because as you see in my above break down of the HD that a HD use's both the 12V & 5V rail. This is why it is important that the 12V rail be at least 18 Amps if you plan on having more then 1 HD and case fans. Then you have the 3.3V & 5V rails that need to be strong too, the 3.3v rail is actually not so important with newer DDR MB and today’s CPU’s as it is mainly supplying the PS-2 ports power as well as some device cards. Most newer MB use the 5v and 12v rails mainly to supply the demands of today’s devices.
    Now this 200W is the bare min what is needed for things to run but in the real world you will want to add 50% to the 200W for your min P/S need, this allows room for spikes and heavy demands and a little head room to add hardware in the future.

  • MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU video lock-ups

    Hello,
        I have a 3 month old MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU.  I am running Windows XP Professional and I am having a periodic lock-up where the screen will show blinking colored blocks and the system will freeze.  Sometimes just hitting reset will cure the problem.  Other times, hitting reset will create two vertical stripes of colored blocks scrolling down the screen.  I have used the board on two entirely separate systems (One with AMD Athlon 2000+, Gainward GeForce 4200, 512 MB Samsung 2700 DDR, Western Digital Expert HD (tried both IDE #1 and RAID controller) (Other System, Athlon 1800+, a different Gainward Geforce 4200, 256 Crucial 2700 DDR, an older Maxtor hard drive).  In either system, every once in a while, the system will freeze as described above (it has happened in Netscape 7.0, Microsoft Word 2000, America's Army game).  
         I have played around with the bios settings, reformatted hard drives, tried various revisions of the nvidia display drivers, swapped out video cards, etc.  Any ideas?  Do I have a bad board?  Do I need to flash the BIOS?  If the board is bad, what do I need to do to return it?
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    Matt Gumaer

    The second system has a 330 watt enermax power supply.  With the new system I put together, I put virtually the same board (MSI KT3 Ultra 2 with bluetooth and RAID), everything is the same as my first system (except the KT3 Ultra-ARU) and the stability is fine.  So, I'm reasonably confident its not the power supply.

  • KT3 Ultra-ARU not work with ATI 9600pro?

    Hi,
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  • KT3 Ultra Aru xp2400?

    Hi
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    Maxtor 133 40gb hdd x 2
    DigiDoc5 (black)
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    I wish MSI would post something about the new Athlons XP's.  I would think that they should have a few of the processors already.  Every review sight seems to have thier hands on one.  I did see in the bios updates that they posted a BIOS update for the KT3 Ultra-C on 8/26/02 that says it adds support for the XP 2400+
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  • KT3 Ultra-ARU SB Live! problem when using onboard Promise MBFasttrak 1

    Hello !
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  • KT3 Ultra ARU Slow HD Transfer Rates

    Hello,
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    I have a MSI KT3 Ultra ARU motherboard and have installed a Maxtor ATA133 60GB hard drive with 2 MB cache.  The hard drive is jumpered as Master and is connected all by itself on the IDE1 ribbon cable.  On IDE2 I have a CDRW (Master) and a CD-ROM (Slave).  My other hard drive (WD 120GB ATA100 8 MB cache) is on IDE3 and is set up in RAID 1+0 stripe.
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    I checked my Device Manager under IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers and it indicates that for my Primary IDE Channel the current transfer mode for device 0 is Ultra DMA Mode 6.  I don’t know how to check the transfer mode on my IDE3 hard drive.
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    Question #2:  If these results are slow, how can I increase the transfer rates?
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    AMD Athlon XP 3000+
    MSI KT3 Ultra ARU MOBO
    2 x 256MB DDR PC2700 SDRAM
    ATI Radeon 9600XT 256MB
    Western Digital WD1200JB 120GB Caviar HD ATA100 8MB Cache 1+0 Stripe/RAID0
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    Lite-On LTR-48125W 48x12x48 CDRW
    TTGI TT-350SS (350W) Power Supply
    PSU Ratings: +3.3V/28A +5V/35A +12V/16A
    Windows XP Home SP2

    These tranfer rates seem fine for sequential read rates. The maxtor drive is at mode 6 and the WD should be at mode 5 if its ATA100.

  • KT3 Ultra-ARU battle

    Hello!
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    Athlon XP 1800+ (TITAN cooler)
    1x256 DDR PC2100
    Leadtek Winfast 200TH
    Maxtor 40GB ATA 133
    Lucent Win Modem
    TV card
    Codegen 6016 300W PSU
    LG DVD x16/48
    CDRW LiteOn 48/12/48

    Hi,
       Disable the COM ports (If not using them) then try another modem.
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  • Kt3 Ultra-aru Processor Speeds?

    Hi There,
        I'm running the MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU (MS-6380E v1.X) with an AMD Athlon XP 2000, I was just wondering what Athlon XP processor speeds this supports upto, and if possible what changes I might need to make to the Bios, Would I need to flash my board with a new Bios or just go into my Bios and change some settings.
    Thanks for any help, just trying to get ready for Doom 3 and Halflife 2 if they ever appear  
    Cheers,
    Paul.

    But there is no guaranty, that a FSB333 AthlonXP will work. The largest CPU that is allowed from MSI is a 2600+ FSB266.
    But the chance is pretty high, that a FSB333 Athlon will work, though. It did so on mine KT3 Ultra.
    sj

  • KT3 Ultra-ARU (Chipset fan problem)

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    for a low cost solution (ie not having to by an IceBurg cooler to replace it) contact MSI France

  • KT3- Ultra aru board (ms-6380e series) processor question

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    anyone either running a newer processor on this board, or who would know the answer, it would be appreciated....
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    You guys rock. Thanks for the feedback. haven't made the purchase yet, got a friend that manages a compusa thats supposed to be getting me a deal, we'll see I guess....
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  • KT3 Ultra ARU PC hangs

    Hi there.
    I have a MSI KT3 Ultra ARU motherboard, AMD XP 2600+, 2x 256 MB Apacher DDR 333 and a Radeon 9700 Pro card. Yesterday I changed CPU from Thunderbird 1.4 to XP 2600+. I had some memory problems with one of the apacher modules, but everything worked fine afterwards. I must say my computer including the OS (WinXP Pro) has been realy stable up to now, and I have never seen this kind of a hang before.
    I was burning a CD (in 4x) while watching a .avi file and the computer hangs. It did not hang fully at the start. First hang nero, then some other programs, then startmeny and desktop, and then the mouse. PC speaker was making a constant bip the whole time until I restarted...
    The system booted up, but I was wondering what it could be? I have some feeling it may be a memory problem, and will check that later on, but that will take some time. I hope someone here knows what to doo, and help me solve this problem.
    Everyone where I am from tells me to buy intel becouse they say AMD is not as stable as intel. I dont think intel is bether than AMD, and my old Thunderbird was rockstable even at 1636 MHz, overclocked by multiplier.

    Hi DataFMT,
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