KT3 Ultra + v5.7 BIOS -- weird behaviour

I have KT3 Ultra with newly flashed 5.7 BIOS + XP2100, 512 333DDR, Club3D 9700np, WindowsXP.
I had some start-up troubles after installing 9700np (8 beeps and no signal), which forced me to reset the system every time after power up to load windowsXP. So, I decided to flash the BIOS. Now, system boots up with no problems, but I've encountered a new problem.
Pressing ctrl+alt+del doesn't bring up the TASK MANAGER. All I get is the CPU USAGE window. Thus, processes, applications etc., those are gone. This means, basically, that I can't shut down programs that are not responding (not that I need to do that very often, but still...). Right clicking on the task bar and selecting TM shows me the same CPU USAGE window.
In addition, IE's pop-up windows that launch external programs (like some sites offering mp3 ring tones that I play with Winamp) cause IE to crash. Never happened before.
All this happened right after I flashed the BIOS. Any ideas?!?! Should I go back to 5.5 that I had before?
Thanks,
Thomas

This is pobubly off topic, but since the title is KT3 Ultra and Bios 5.7 I decided to ask here so as not to create a duplicate thread.
I to flashed my Bios to 5.7, but my problem is as follows.
After flash rebooted my computer as instructed, entered bios and verified all my configurations. Rebooted again. Windows came up fine but all text was garbled and unreadable. Reflashed 5.7 (thinking it didn't take). Again same problems. Had to flash back to 5.6 inorder to straighten out.
Bas any ideas?
Thomstucks:: Sorry to hear about your problem, and for jumping in on your thread. Have you tried 5.6?

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KT3-Ultra 5.7 BIOS.....

Hi,
The KT3-Ultra (-ARU) 5.7 BIOS will be released official this week...
Don't expect much changes over the last BIOS as there are very little.
As these are the only improvements:
Fixed AMD 2600+(266MHz FSB) CPU shown incorrectly
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Originally posted by Bas
Hi,
That there isn't official support doesn't mean it won't work on the board....
As I heard from several people that the TBred-333 CPU's do work, even when they are not supported....
We have to wait until somebody tries it :D
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I know, it's only a bios trouble, infact on the MoBo page (at CPU support section) are tested processors till +2800/333mhz without problems, and my T-Bred goes easy at 166mhz. Barton have only 256k plus L2 than T-Bred...but why MSI dosen't make a bios with the official support to 333mhz? The KT3Ultra2 was reported officially (in old news from MSI) with 333mhz support. I'm very disappointed about this... :(

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I have a strange situation here. I have been running a XP1700+ palamino unlocked at 9.5x190 (1810) (max ram timings) with the original bios which was v5.5. I decided to pick up 2400+ so before installing it I flashed the bios to v5.6 which is supposed to support it. It does. Tried overclocking a little with it locked got to 2325@155fsb. Over that unstable.
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So now I put the 2400 back in unlocked and works fine up to 173fsb BUT I still have a max mult of 12.5 and max fsb 173 .
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Thanks for the reply Maesus
I have been clearing CMOS each time. I understand that It would seem to be hardware but not sure why I can once again go higher when I flash back to older bios (not as high as original but higher than v5.6) Also with the 1700 the bios was the only change.
The other thing with the multipliers of 14 and 15 not giving the correct result also bothers me. I know it can do a 15x because it does with cpu locked but when unlocked no go. Is this a limit of the KT333 the KT3 Ultra 2 or a bug in the Bios.
One last thing there is an option 12.5/13 but as far as I can tell choosing it only give 12.5 .Is there some way to get 13x ?
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This is the problem: I connected the D-bracket to my KT3 Ultra board. But it doesn't work. Al least, none of the devices I connected to it (printer and camera) are found or seen by Windows. Windows does see a removable device but not the camera. Also the software I use for the camera can't find it. The bracket did work on a older board with Windows ME. But now it doesn't.
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This is interesting. I have the same board, also running WinXP Professional with SP1 on it.
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Hello out there.
I have a real complicated matter with my Kt3 Ultra board.
Used to work fine, but after I flashed it with the latest BIOS (5.7), the board has this strange behaviour: when I clear the CMOS, the board boots up, when I change & save the settings, the board does not "come to life"(black screen & beeper silent).
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i had no problems with the flash,
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boot to win me floppy,
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http://www.georgebreese.com/net/software/
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