KT3 Ultra wont run at 133fsb?

Ok.. I tried just about everything, but can't run this board at 133fsb, it runs fine at 100.
I found a thread here with best settingfor he KT3 Ultra and I tried them for same results...
The thing is it used to run at 133fsb before. The thing that changed is that I had a defective GeForce 4600 (MSI) and I returned it for repairs (wich they did) but while the card was on repairs, I went ahead and bought the MSI GeForce MX 440 8X agp, by the way thta is a sweet little card! but thats another issue.
After getting my 4600 back I was never able again to run the board at 133fsb, when I set it to it, it hangs when Windows XP first screen comes on, and sometimes even before that.
Any help anybody? while I still got a few hairs left ...
I been thinking on upgrading to a KT4 board, but wanted to wait a little longer, the KT3 has been a fine board up until now... Do you think I got a bum board, should I try to get a RMA and send the thing back?
Help!!! ;(

Adviced noted and apreciated...
The reazon I do the cleaning in the HSF unit is, I got the Volcano 7+ and I dont know if you seen the cooper grill, the blades are extremely thin and close together and are the perfect dust catchers... I only do this monthly thing during the hot months of summer when the house is warm and the HSF has to be switched at the highest RPM's during full loads ( game playing etc.), and it is not religiously "monthly", I do a visual check and if it looks clean enough, I wait till more dust is colected, or until I notice an raise by a couple of degrees or more for no aparent reazon in the cpu temp. Anyways, I found a neat little minivac at the office depot that comes with a brush head, the bristles in this handy gadget are perfect for vacuming the blades in the Volcano 7+, so there is no need for removing the whole unit any longer...
When I apply the Silver Arctic ( yes indeed, very conductive) I apply a small dub in the center of the cpu and then rub it a bit with my finger tip (dust and particle free) in a very thin layer, leaving about a milimeter clear in the edges to allow for a bit of "flatening expansion" that the pressure from the cpu on top will do.
I dont recomment the Silver arctic to less meticulous folks either, but if done carefully, it does a great, great job...
But I dont want to turn this thread into a CPU cooling HSF one, and at the mean time, I sure do apreciate the advice on the cooling issues, and hope the new doit yourselfers putting their PC's together take a mind note on it.
I am still puzzled by the 100 to 133 fsb issue, I think it might be IRQ related, I got to do some more reading on this. I run a 3 PC home network and never had this problem before, and I do put together all my PC's...
Txs again for the replays, I will post I ever find a solution to this, as I seen some other posts in the same subject.

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PSU Query for MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU running 3000xp

Hi There,
Before buying a new Motherboard I was just wondering if the problems I'm getting are related to the PSU which is about 5 years old. I've just upgraded my processor to a Athlon 3000 XP 333 FSB which goes into the MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU (MS-6380E v1.X) motherbaord, which I've upgraded the Bios to version 5.7, I've also upgraded my graphics card to the Leadtek Geforce FX5900XT which also plugs into the PSU. When setting my fsb to 166 my PC either won't boot or when I try to run say 3DMark it just freezes, but when I set my FSB to 133 it works fine. I was wondering if it is trying to draw too much power from the CPU.
I don't really know how to write the PSU details down correctly so I've just copied everything from the unit.
Power Man MN :- FSP 300 - 60 BT
AC Input - 115/230v~, 10/5A, 60/50 HZ
DC Output - +3.3V 14.0A(org), +5V - 30.0A(red), +12v - 11.0A (yel) + 5VSB
- 2.0A (purp), -5V - 0.3A (white), -12V - 0.8A(blue)
Fuse Rating 6.3A, 250V
Max Output Power 300W (+3.3V&+5V=150W Max)
Hope this makes sense,
Thanks in Advance,
Paul.

Thanks for that, What would you got for between these two :-
is 550w better than 420w? and is ATX 2.03 just the normal ATX size?
Hiper PSU ATX 420W Active PFC SF-420TS Dual Fan, Silent/Temp Ctrl
1,PRODUCT FEATURES:
Active PFC;
Double Ball-Bearing Fan;
Dual Fan;
Gold Plated Connectors and fan grill;
Adjustable fan speed - Silent function.
Product Description Hiper 420TS - power supply - 420 Watt
Device Type Power supply
Form Factor Internal
Specification Compliance ATX 2.03
Output Voltage +3.3, ±5, ±12 V
Power Provided 420 Watt
2,Q-Tec PSU ATX 550W Gold PFC Dual Fan PSU for PIII/AMD/P4 CPUs
PRODUCT FEATURES:
550 Watt PSU;
Suitable for ATX systems and Pentium 4;
2 fans inside for optimal cooling;
Noise level less than 33 dB (A);
Complies to latest PFC power distortion standards.
Product Description Q-Tec Dual Fan Gold power supply - 550 Watt
Device Type Power supply
Form Factor Internal
Dimensions (WxDxH) 15 cm x 14 cm x 8.5 cm
Input Voltage AC 230 V
Power Provided 550 Watt
Thanks,
Paul.

My KT3 Ultra Experience (from the nightmare to a running well system)

Well First...
I don't speak a well english, maybe because still think in spanish, so maybe find many gramatical errors.
the very very begin
The history begins with a terrible electric shock in my house, i got a Athlon XP 1700+ with a cheap PC Chips Board (810)..yeah the all in one board (video, modem, ethernet, sound) build my first system with a mixture of expectatives and dreams with my first AMD athlon XP , the system running well, before got the "great idea" to plug a Zoltrix Genie TV card for record South Park, everything is OK, so, i think that i abuse the luck, and a rainy night, i surf the net ( a XXX one... ATK... never forget that site after this) a electric shock enter trought the tv cable searching ground, someone that got this experience maybe feels a demon in a box, a white light come out from the back of the system and hit the isolated regulator ( with the sparks and all the stuff ) the light goes out and a tasty barbecue smell fill completly the room.
ohhh...
the list of cooking components:
   Athlon XP 1700+
   PC Chips 810 (a/v/r/s)
   Maxtor HDD 40GB
   Zoltrix Genie TV
   Mouse (generic)
   Keyboard (generic)
   Microsoft sidewinder gamepad
The miracle pieces:
   256MB DIMM sticks from crucial (PC 100) two of them
   External CD Burner HP CD-Writer 8230e (USB)
   Philips Monitor 17'
i learn to never watch a porno site in a rainy night... it's really bad for your system
build another system "da plan!"
in a trip to Bogotá i search in the computer mall called UNILAGO, the new system board, someone callit MOBO, my idea are this:
A Boxed Board. Candidates like ASUS , Gygabyte, MSI, with the VIA 333 chip are required.
we search in all the place, asus show its A7V333 model, but its too expensive in the price that this guy offered (maybe think that i don't search the pricewatch.com page before go to the mall... je je) in a place some guy show me a very nice box... i think the first impression counts, its the kt3 ultra board in her shiny box, next tactic ask for minimun price (...no minimun price got this board...) so i pay 360 thousand pesos for it.
wen come back to Cali ( the place i live) and after got some pesos in my bag i go to the computer mall in Cali called La passarella (remember the argentinian soccer player?) for buy the components.....
the list is this:
   Athlon XP 1800+ BOXED (got the original AMD heatsink)
   DDR RAM PC2100 256 MB
   Genius Netscroll Optic
   Genius Keyboard
   CD-Rom LG 52 X
   Case with a 300W ATX Power Supply
   Realtek Ethernet Card (Encore)
   AGP Video card with the SIS chip 315 128MB of ram
   Genius Maxfire USB (i buyit for the cheap price and anyway i don't play too much in a computer so i dont need a Nvidia Ti thing or a gamepad expensive)
wen go to the house, plug all the stuff and the process it's fine, no complicate things occur, i do two modifications first
1)to the AMD heatsink, the clip come in the other side, so i need to unplug the Power ATX supply for attach it and don't want to do the same thing every time that retire the heatsink, i disarm the heatsink and turn the clip to the other side, no problems with this mod...
2)i don't use floppy disks... I HATE IT so the place of the floppy converts in the place for the D-Bracket with all the lights and two USB... nice because i perfored the case in the right way and the usb and the lights come in the front of the case...it's a easy mod...
all the things come well so turn it ON...
KT3 Ultra first Round!
well i don' pay much attention in the first time that power on the system and hit the del key.... nothing happens and a letters of searching array and scanning devices show... after this process the amibios screen shows (the blue one, and still today don't find the option for change the color scheme like te PC Chips amibios options got) in this point i know that the rule "search the instruction booklet" it's totally necessary for many options the options that i disable and some that enable are this:
    in integrated peripherals disable the ata raid option (remember the scan devices screen?) i plug a maxtor ATA 100 hard drive to the ide cable because don't know if this hard disk works with the Raid Option maybe not because is ata 100.. so disable the option
    in power management options i activate the CPU critical temperature to 70°C
    in advanced bios settings i enable the MSI link to the future screen... nice, SMART for HDD enable. In the boot secuence put first CD-rom and later HDD
    in standard CMOS settings put the hour...(uh!), and obvious disable the nasty floppy drive (BOOT CDS REPLACE THE NEED OF FLOPPY DRIVES...)
    in PC health disable the intrussion option, because i don't have the switch for the case...
    in frecuency and voltage i find the FSB in 100Mhz but i don't change anything in this point...
after this tiny modification, i save the changes and restart....
the system boot with a CD he he... with a image of the win98 boot disk, so i formated and fdisk the drive... tooooo fast in this point.
after partition the HDD in 5 pieces and formating every partition, i reboot the computer for installing Win98...
the installation goes normal, and install all the MSI software (only for know what apps are appreciable por me) i don't have any problems, install all the drivers for every single hardware piece and the system works well... so testing es the next point.
KT3 Ultra first test after the installation
well i feel that my job are easyly...(ji ji) and all the process go OK so testing my new machine gotme like a child.
i run the test of SiS for the AGP card ( 3D thrill ) the demo of the card got a cosmic scene, comes very fast, i try to watch if someone piloting the space ship, and maybe see something
the sound are good for the include sound chip in the board, put and test all the effects and test...ok ok... nice.
microsoft direct X got some testings so i run it too ... write in run command "dxdiag" and ready for the tests, in this point i feel free to install a copy of "formula 1 2002" in the machine some guy borrowme a copy, wen i try to install got a n error.... (the first one) and the game don't install ... i reject the installation and try another game, in this point i search the Athlon XP Oem.bmp file for branding my new system... je je, and hit the window key and pause and i find that my processor runs in 1.1 Mhz... (what!!!) if this CPU is a 1800 and this speed maybe is wrong....so i read the boocklet and find in the FSB option the way for put the CPU in his real Mhz...(1.53) in this point begins the troubles...
KT3 Ultra damage my CPU??????!!!!!
Wen enter to the bios i got direct for the FSB option and put it to 133Mhz maybe this thing it's easyly too, i think, i made and save the changes... and.....
A BLACK SCREEN COMES AND I SEE THE FOUR LEDS IN RED!!!!
AHHHH!, i thinks that this processor pases to a better life after this point, with shaking hands read again the boocklet and find the interpretation for the 4 red leds signal, damage or bad installed processor.
oh, so what i do...?
i continue reading for a little FAQ in the boocklet, and nothing, only a glossary, i call a friend to helpme... ( the true geek one) the guy tell me to reset the bios with the jumper... so, i don't loose anything with this and do it...
wen the computer reboots the signals come to life... (ufff!) and the scanning device creen shows again... so i need to save again my settings.
i do all the things and save, the system turns on and windows 98 load normal again... i try to fix the FSB thing in other time i think, and continue intalling some programs.
In my CDs find a copy of formula 1 2001 no de 2002 version, because this version i installed in my other fried system i installed in mine for show and prove the 3d card...
the installation works fine and terminate ok, wen i hit the icon to play, the 3d settings window appears i select some options 800x600 32bit color and press test, a blank screen comes with some little caracters, in some point wen the test come back my system frozes and nothing happens... OHHHHHHH! what happens?.... i think, i decided to check the temperature values because in this point think that my installation fails in the put heatsink process.
i load PC alert and find CPU temperature in 78°C... oh, it's too high i think so shutdown the system and check the heatsink for anything that miss in the first time.
i put again the heatsink an log to the bios for check the values....
this is the values of PChealth option in bios:
   Cpu temp : 71°C and stable in this value...it's high too
   System Temp : 38°C ...high too
   VCore      1.744V
   +5.0V       5.038V
   +12V      11.923V
   -12V      -11.497
   -5V         -5.026V
   Batt      3.24V
   +5VSB      4.969
some ideas come to my mind and try to think if some options of the bios, the best performance option it's a good point to start i think so i select and save the changes...
oh, oh, the black screen comes again.... buuuuuu! and the four red leds too....buuuu!
mmmm, ....what i do?, what i do?....i reset again the bios, for the options and try to boot the machine again... maybe leave the system in the first point i think but nothing prepare me for the many "chorro" of errors thath follow after this point....
If i can roll back the time....
i think to be superman and fly in a oposite earth direction for roll back the time... (luisa!)
the system begins a non stop errors secuence sometimes the four leds are red, sometimes tree leds red an the top right led green, in the book says this signal is for damage DDR ram...
wen windows 98 loads the system frozes in some points, and wen enter and run some test the system frozes too...
i reset the bios to the original form an try to leave the house excactly wen enter the first time... i save it and the errors continues...
with NO hope of correct by myself the issues i turn on my old K6II system and find the MSI forum that got some mysql errors
in the forum find the Power unit suplly issues, i got the ATX box and 300W maybe it's too low i think after MANY post with same errors like me, i think to made a program plan for recover the stability and my ideas come in the next point.
now need another message to continue....

Return the system to the "normal" or less stability
In the forum (thanks for the people thath participate) some people says issues of frozen systems because cheap ATX power supply, some other got problems with the heatsink, i think that a mixture of those issues gotme like mad and try to figure out the quality of a atx power supply that changes the performance after a bios setup... ( it's a very cheap ATX power supply, i think) the Power unit now don't support the energy, and power needs of the system in some cases wen i run the 3d accelerated test the system frozes wen i hit "test".
return today to the computer mall passarella, and buy this items:
   Vulcano 7 (it's a building no, it's a airplane no,... it's vulcano 7 with speed sensor incorporated, much bigger than a building and more CFM than any airplane make!)
   ATX power supply 400W for kicks power requeriments and maybe extract energy enough for a reading lamp...
   wen come back to the house i install the new parts, the vulcano 7 needs the same mod than the other AMD one, or maybe MSI put the sockect A protect clip layer in the wrong site, maybe the board fit well in a ATX-XL case for no uninstall the power unit to put the heatsink... anyway need to uninstallit but this issue it's funny.
wen everiting it's ok i turn on the system...
KT3 Ultra Runs smooth... FINALLY
i know thath every body needs to listen a couple of help tips, in this point i think that logged to the forum are the best idea that i got, many people got the same problems and if you don't ask or search you think thath the MSI board it's a terrible board, and this no true, and because it's red too.
the system loads normal and i think to go up the FSB to the NORMAL 133 value for this athlon XP 1800+ i change the values, save and reboot the first thing that i find are the bios recognize the Amd Athlon XP 1800+ in the first black screen ( wen disables da logo) later, web hit windows key+ pause the window says Athlon XP 1800+, in the fuzzy logic app i find the values of 1523 Mhz and the temperature don't rises 50°C it's now OK, better than the cooking eggs thing that got before the changes.
now i need to give some thanks..
Thanks
to all the people in the forum, i don't write a nice english but i know read and it's enough for take a easy living style with this machines...
MSI people thanks
for the people in the mall, they don't know much the Power unit issues of this board it's a bit more exigent than others in his point.
to my dog that share my angry in the late night, it's a good one that dont' sleep well wen i work in the night..
so to all the people thanks for made this posible, maybe this long post with less technical things works for put your boards well.
Victor Hugo Hernández
Cali - Colombia

[VIA] KT3 ULTRA - XP shutsdown properly but PC keeps running

Has anyone ever heard of this problem? Whenever I shutdown Windows XP with 'Turn Off Computer' option, the system shuts down properly and the screen goes blank - HOWEVER, the PC keeps running and produces 3 short beeps over and over. I then have to turn off the power switch on the POWER SUPPLY in order to shut it down.
When I switch the power supply back on, I can then reboot normally.
KT3 Ultra
AMD XP 1900
not sure of my chipset - this was a barebones non-branded system
Thanks!

I never got around to removing the mobo and all that. Instead, I've finally got it to quit restarting after reading the info listed on the following site: http://aumha.org/win5/a/shtdwnxp.php
"Disabling the “restart on system failure” feature may permit the exact cause to be isolated: Right-click on My Computer, click Properties, click the Advanced tab. Under “Startup & Recovery,” click Settings. Under “System Failure,” uncheck the box in front of “Automatically restart.”
By now, the Roxio/Adeptec Easy CD / Direct CD software is well documented as being the major cause of this undesirable shutdown behavior. SOLUTION: Roxio has released new drivers (here) to solve this problem in both the Platinum and Basic editions of Easy CD Creator 5. As expected, at least half of the Win XP shutdown problems went away with the release of these patches."
I have Easy CD software on this box so this just may be the cause of my problem. I'm going to uninstall it and set the "restart on system failure" feature back to original setting to see if this truly resolves my problem.
Athlon XP 1900+
KT3-Ultra (MS-6380E) Mobo
AMI BIOS 5.70
512 MB RAM (PC-2700 SDRAM, 2x256MB, 333MHz) 2 different generic brands
Radeon 7500 64MB DDR AGP
80 GB 7200RPM Hitachi Desktar 120GXP
3 case fans, 1 Thermaltake processor fan
10/100 NIC
Sony DVD R/RW Model DRU-510A
Sony CD-RW Model CRX225E
Codegen 350W +3.3V 20A, +5V 30A, +12V 12A, +5VSB 2A, -5V 0.5A, -12V 0.8A
XP SE2

Kt3 ultra and 9600xt fast write

Amd Barton 2500
dr. thermal ti-77n
Kt3 Ultra standard mobo w/5.7bios
Antec performance II sx835II case w/350 psu
Corsair 512 2100 x3
Ati 9600xt
Audigy ZS gamer
as some of u may be aware the 9600 family of cards are very picky about fast writes. In order to run games without lock ups/crashes i must enable fast writes. The problem is that when i do, i get corrupt text, lines around my cursors, video lag etc etc. I recently switch to a barton 2500 that is running a 1.87ghz at 133fsb, before i ran an 1800 that did not have any of these problems with fast write enabled. bios and xp recognixed it as a 2500+ and i have the ratio set to auto and memory set to HCLK. I tried varios drivers for the gfx card and all produced the same results. Also tried all combinations of bios fast write on gfx control panel off, on etc. any ideas?
TIA
-leo
pic of lines/box around cursor

fast write disabled = game willl lock, the 9600 family of cards are notorious for this, i was able to fix my corrupt text and cursor problem by moving the slider under troubleshooting in the ati panel down a notch. in game im still seeing some problems though, hopefully the game specific forums can give me some help. thiis is really annoying because the dam game ran fine with my 1800 i went to the 5.09 drivers on the reccomendation from another forumite.
screeny to show in game problem for those that care
www.theoldschoolers.com/Forums/uploads/post-11-1134154170.jpg
anyways this is more specific game related matter now, but i figured id post up a follow up for u guys anyways

USB 2.0 on KT3 Ultra (NEC chip)

Last December I bought a Hauppauge Win TV Nova-T USB unit for digital TV and Radio. I thought I'd make use of the USB2 sockets. The USB2 sockets work no better than the VIA USB1 sockets. Performance appears to bandwidth limited. The problem exists with XP SP1 and WIn 2k SP3 (with the patch from the MSI driver page). I have in the Device Manager 'NEC PCI to USB Enhanced Host Controller B1' which is what is supposed to be there. All updates got from Microsoft. Resources for this Controller shows it's using IRQ 16, along with the Graphics card and Firewire PCI card. Using ACPI it cannot be moved.
I've just got hols off the Sony DRX 500 UL USB2 DVD writer. It has both Firewire and USB2 interfaces. Firewire works a treat but USB2 wont. It identifies the Sony OK but Nero crashes usiny the USB2.
Everything points to the NEC chip.
My mates bought a KT3 Ultra 2 (with the VIA USB2 chip) and it works a treat.
Anyone got an NEC chipped mobo with USB2 working?

Hi,
AGP and USB are allway's tied together.....
But as you are using IRQ16, it means you have APIC turned on...
You need to change the HAL if you change the APIC, see the good article forum on this.
You might want to run without APIC, not all devices/drivers like this....
Also, check out the Nero page for updates....
And a good USB side is http://www.usbman.com

KT3-ULTRA - Win XP won\'t install

I wonder if anyone can help...
My computer specs are here:
KT3 Ultra-ARU
XP 2000+ (not over clocked)
256MB DDR Ram
IDE0 - HDD1 Maxtor 40gb
IDE0 - HDD2 Maxtor 20gb
IDE1 - CD
IDE1 - CDRW
GeForce 256 (AGP)
SBLive!
Linksys Netgear 10/100 Mbps Network Card
56K modem.
I recently installed the above processor, board and RAM. All works fine in the BIOS and looks ok. Linux on the HDD2 boots fine and works without any problems.
However my Win XP installation wouldn't boot. No problem I thought, same as all windows problems - reinstall - after transfering anything important to the linux partition. Now when I try to reinstall Win XP everything looks ok up untill the final stages (entered product key, configured networking, just before it restarts for windows to run properly the first time) when a 'blue screen of death' appears informaing me that my system has been halted in order to protect itt. Some meaningless (to me) memory addresses are displayed. The message says to try again, run chkdsk, remove any newly installed hardware (obviously tricky...).
Any help on getting Win XP to install would be great, since I am in the middle of a big software project which has to be developed on windows....
I will check back soon to see if anymore info is needed.
Cheers
Chris

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Originally posted by ChrisColeman
Right,
I can't do the mem test because I can't get the FDD to work.
When it is all plugged in (my power cable wont do the CD drive and the FDD at the same time till I rearange it all) and I boot the computer the FDD light comes on and then stays on permenantly, linux cant mount and generally seems broken...
Could this signify deeper problms with the MB? possibly a reason XP wont install?
Would the poor PSU really cause windows to be unable to install? It looks fine till the final stages when it is preparing to start windows for the first time.
Cheers
Chris
It most probably be you have the floppy cables connected the wrong way. Flip it over on the floppy side and try again.

KT3 Ultra 2 with Inno3d NVIDIA Geforce2 mx400 problems

Having multiple problems playing games.
Get this in event viewer (below) or the application will crash or get
DSOD.
STOP 0x0A, 0x01E, and 0x50 Errors. (IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL)
Event Type: Error
Event Source: nv
Event Category: None
Event ID: 8
Date: 30/09/2003
Time: 10:33:43
User: N/A
Computer: HOMEPC
Description:
Idle Timeout Error Channel 00000001.
Some times it also complains about specific files such as ntoskernl.exe or nv4_disp.dll, but more often than not it wont complaine about files on the BSOD.
Tried all drivers and drivers from NVIDIA (including generic).
Read loads of forums about changing "Advanced Chipset features" in BIOS and
downloading the latest via chipset drivers and running 3dmark benchmarks which crashes to desktop eventually.
BIOS has been flashed with the latest from the website.
I have run system diagnostics to make sure memory / processor are not
faulty which they are not.
I have even re-installed my OS to make sure there are no corruption but I still get the same problems.
This happens on multiple games. I have also installed the NVIDIA version of
graphics card which I borrowed and had exactly the same problem.
Here is my PC details:-
AMD Athlon 2100XP
MSI - KT3 Ultra 2 motherboard.
Dane Elec 256mb DDR 2100 ram
120GB WD HDD
Inno3d NVIDIA Geforce 2 MX400 with 64MB
HP CDRW
DVD ROM
With a 400w power supply.
All my hardware is approved for use with AMD processors with higher spec's than mine.
Based on the fact that I have used another NVIDIA card in my PC plus rebuilding the OS, and got the same problems, I would say that there is a problem with the motherboard or BIOS settings.
I'm more inclide to think it the motherboard as I have tried lots and lots of variations.
Are there any tools to check the motherbaord?
Has anyone come across these problems? I know that the games themselves can sometimes cause these, but I have checked to make sure I have patches installed and checked forums to see if other people suffer the same thing. But they don't.
And 3dmark which crashes to the desktop whilst running through the tests must be another indication of problems. (Already checked for patches for 3dmark too)
I know this is a forum, but i can't seem to find an offical way to complain to MSI. If any one knows, please send us a link!

It looks as though this could be one of those classic cases where it could simply be overheating.
I purchased a AXP2100BOX product when I first built my PC. This is an AMD package that contains the processor and the heatsink.
However through my painstaking troubleshooting tactics, I think that the problem is where it overheats.
The reason that first lead me to think that it could be this is because I downloaded the MSI core centre application and click on the Auto button. By doing this, the software automatically overclocks the processor, bumping up the FSB slowly. Eventually, it blue screens. I read somewhere that this is normal, just restart and the MSI software will now know what limits there are for over clocking.
Well the error code that I got from the blue screen it produced, was not that different from the errors I get whist playing games.
IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL.
The error codes were different but it was still the same IRQ message.
So I had a look around on the web to find out as much as possible about AMD's overheating and stumbled across reviews for " AXP2100BOX ", the processor/heatsink box product. All the reviews I came across said that there was a problem with overheating. I did check out reviews before I purchased the box product, but at the time it was fairly new.
According to the AMD website, my processor is guaranteed to run up to 100'C.
Now my processor runs at about 65'C on load, BUT this reading is from the fan on top of the heatsink, not the processor itself.
So that's the theory so far. So can anyone recommend this biggest, bestest, and probably the most noisiest, heatsink you can buy.
I'm also looking into changing my case as there are some nifty air shifters out there.
Check this link out for the ultimate cooling solution. (Get your wallet out!)
http://www.vapochill.com

Kt3 ultra need help! no display

hey everyone just wondering if any one can help me.
i have a kt3 ultra (ms 6380e ver. 1.0) with amd athalon 1900+ xp
512mb if pc 2300 ddr ram. recently my brother told me that the computer crashed and that it wouldn't turn on. after some investigation the computer turns on just no display on the monitor.
i decided to jumper reset the cmos and try to boot it up. then it beeps 2 close beeps and then followed by another 1 beep. the message on the screen is "cmos settings wrong" F1 to go to setup , F2 load default and boot but no matter which one you pick pretty much the same out come.
F1 - it brings you into cmos everything looks normal and then once you save and exit the comp restarts and no beeps and no display until you jumper reset cmos again and then the messages come back.
F2 - it will go through post and then there is a windows bar loading and it freezes there. so you have to restart it and after you restart it the problem comes again. no display and forces you to jumper reset the cmos and the error message comes again.
i have tried troubleshooting the system.
-my video card works when i tried it on another computer and with another videocard the same problem occurs.
-i reseatted pretty much everything, memory, cpu, video card all the cables.
-i swapped the cmos batterys between the operationg computer and the non operationg battery so that should eliminate the battery problem
so pretty much what i haven't swapped with a known operationg component is the cpu, ram and motherboard.
i was just wondering what i should do now??? new motherboard? new cpu? new ram? i hope i can fix it tho.
any suggestions are very much appreciated thanks

I have a verry similar problem, tryed with both pc3200 and 2100 ram (the system has been running stable for aprox 3 years now..) i tryed to set the multiplier to 14 (even though its a palomino, and i know that it must be unlocked first) just for fun (cpu temp is 35idle 42load) and it just wont get a signal to the display... i tryed to reset cmos, and to take out the battery.. no effekt at all! my screen is completely black.. any good ideas or just throw the computer in the trash can ? (i dont think its the PSU since it happened when i turned up the multiplier... and it have been stable for so long , a 340W chieftec PSU the kind that came with the dragon series kabinets)

My kt3 ultra keeps frying my PSU's

i dont know if this has to do with my mobo, but i need help on this and i am using a MSI motherboard.
i raised my Voltage up to 1.80, then the computer runs fine, and i am running the FSB at 133. For some reason, my PSU keeps blowing when i am running a game, or something cpu intensive.. out of nowhere the computer just shuts off,. then i try to turn it back on and i see 1 of my led fans light up for like half a second.. then i smell the fan from the back and it smells like the same when my monitor blew... i put in a new 400watt one and i turned the voltage down but left the FSB at the same speed. IT HAPPENS AGAIN When im playing need for speed 2. now im on another computer because i have no more power supplies..
i need real help... thanks
Im running an AMD Athlon XP 2100+ at a 133FSB
MSI kt3 Ultra motherboard
Volcano 7+ heatsink
msi stock northbridge cooler
Normal internal CPU temp is 32C(idle) and 38C(heavy load)

Have you tested those power supplies to make sure they really are bad? Get a $15.00 power supply test and make sure they really blew. I somehow believe that a). Your system becomes unstable at that high of a FSB clock speed and just shuts down or reboots itself. b) your CPU temps are not being reported accurately and that your CPU is overheating and either a) the thermal protection in the BIOS shuts off your computer. b) PC Alert [if you use it and have it configured] shuts off your computer. c) your CPU heated up to the point of shutting down . It's hard to imagine 38C [95/100F] full load temp while overclocking the FSB to 143MHz. Normal 133/134 MHz FSB host clock speed will generate 40/41C [104/105F] temperatures idle using a good quality HSF. Heavy loads will see temps rising to 49/51C [113/115F ] . As others have said, back down the FSB clock speed to 133MHz and see if you have a problem.

Problem with KT3 Ultra/AMD 2100+ temp

hi,
Im not too familiar with motherboards but i know when there is something seriously wrong. I have a MSI KT3 Ultra motherboard with a AMD XP 2100+ processor. My computer normally ran at a CPU temp of 45C, but today I installed the new version of PC Alert 4. All of a sudden my CPU temp increased 15C. Now its running at 60C, which i think is too high. I havent changed anything else, and nothing has been overclocked. I have a Geforce 4 Ti 4400 and 512mb RAM. Please help.
Thanks in advance

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PS: anyone else have any other ideas? dont wanna be ungrateful but i dont think thermal paste stops working within a 2 hour period all of a sudden.
No it wont, but it has probably been running at that temp all along.....Maybe your first PCAlert was just giving false temps........Did you ever check it in the bios before?

MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU video lock-ups

Hello,
I have a 3 month old MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU. I am running Windows XP Professional and I am having a periodic lock-up where the screen will show blinking colored blocks and the system will freeze. Sometimes just hitting reset will cure the problem. Other times, hitting reset will create two vertical stripes of colored blocks scrolling down the screen. I have used the board on two entirely separate systems (One with AMD Athlon 2000+, Gainward GeForce 4200, 512 MB Samsung 2700 DDR, Western Digital Expert HD (tried both IDE #1 and RAID controller) (Other System, Athlon 1800+, a different Gainward Geforce 4200, 256 Crucial 2700 DDR, an older Maxtor hard drive). In either system, every once in a while, the system will freeze as described above (it has happened in Netscape 7.0, Microsoft Word 2000, America's Army game).
I have played around with the bios settings, reformatted hard drives, tried various revisions of the nvidia display drivers, swapped out video cards, etc. Any ideas? Do I have a bad board? Do I need to flash the BIOS? If the board is bad, what do I need to do to return it?
Thanks,
Matt Gumaer

The second system has a 330 watt enermax power supply. With the new system I put together, I put virtually the same board (MSI KT3 Ultra 2 with bluetooth and RAID), everything is the same as my first system (except the KT3 Ultra-ARU) and the stability is fine. So, I'm reasonably confident its not the power supply.

KT3 Ultra 2 Keyboard lock-ups

I have a problem I haven't seen the answer to. Just built a PC with MSI KT3 Ultra 2, 2000XP processor, GeForce4 Ti 4200 64 MB vid card, 256MB, Windows ME. System has been stable for about 2 weeks now, but yesterday and today it has locked up the keyboard while web browsing (no other programs running). Not sure what is occurring. I have an intake and 2 exhaust fans and temps appear to be well with in acceptable ranges. After this occurs, windows will lock-up on reboot at the ME splash screen. Then sometimes, the pc wil reboot on the following restart fine. Other times, it locks up again with an illegal division error after the splash. No programs or hardware added lately that would have caused this.

The second system has a 330 watt enermax power supply. With the new system I put together, I put virtually the same board (MSI KT3 Ultra 2 with bluetooth and RAID), everything is the same as my first system (except the KT3 Ultra-ARU) and the stability is fine. So, I'm reasonably confident its not the power supply.

KT3 Ultra 2R + Barton 3000+

Hi all..
Hope someone can help.
I have a KT3 Ultra 2R board with the following stats:
Athlon XP (Barton) 3000+ FSB 166 CPU
CoolerMaster HHC-001 heatpipe H/sink with 80mm fan
Antec 520W PSU
2 x 100 ATA Maxtor Viper 80Gb HDD's with 8Mb cache each in striped RAID array
Asus TI 4600 Ultra 128Mb V/card
Audigy S/card
Lite-on CD/RW
Lite-on CD/DVD
2 x 512Mb Corsair XMS 3000 DDR Ram (333 and above) with aluminium heat spreaders
Lian-Li PC70 Tower case with 6 x 80mm fans
Rounded cables throughout
Win XP + SP1
The Problem:
This system worked fine with an Athlon XP 2200 CPU and I read MSI's CPU support list and saw the KT3 Ultra 2 6380E supported the Barton XP 3000+ CPU's so I bought one. :P
At first I had trouble booting on the 5.7 version bios, with the lock ups throught the bootup process. I reset the bois to the defaults and slowly worked up the settings using the recommendations in the forums.
At the moment, the system will boot up with fast command set to normal, no agressive DDR timings, 1T command disabled, fastwrite disabled, agp read/write disabled and SDRAM set to SPD (HCLK).
My 3DMark01 & 3DMark03 scores are lower than when I had the XP 2200 CPU installed and the SiSoft sandra results are the equivalent of a Athlon 2000. MSI says the board supports the Barton 3000+, but at what cost ??? :O
The system is very unstable and and requires on average 3 boots to boot up successfully. The 3DMark03 test often locks up mid way.
Any help or the settings MSI or you used to achieve their results would be VERY helpful. Please Help... ;(

I have had a similar problem running my kt3 ultra2 (non raid) at 166 fsb. In mid april I bought a 2600+ 166 fsb athlon to upgrade my system from a 1.2 ghz athlon. I bought some new pc2700 crucial ram to go along with the processor. I had also recently bought a radeon 9700 pro in late march, and a 1.2 athlon would just be a waste of this great vid card. I had been running fine with the radeon and the 1.2 athlon with the msi 5.7 bios and 4.43 via 4-in-1's.
I battled this problem for weeks. I bought a new antec 550 watt PSU, corsair xms 3200 ram, and new antec tower case trying to find out if the problem was ram, power or heat. I should also note that turning on spread spectrum helped a little in stability. Setting it to .50% made it stable in windows and games, but the computer would not turn on if shutdown unless I cleared the cmos. No setting besides this had any effect on stability. Even conservative ram timings. I was about to buy an Asus a7n8x when I realized that I had once run my old cpu and ram at 166 fsb when I had the 5.6 bios a couple of months back. I did not keep it like that in fear of damaging the ram while overclocked.
So I reflashed to 5.6 which still supported the 2600+. That finally worked almost perfectly, although I still have to keep spread spectrum at .25% to be stable (which is odd, people say that is supposed to hurt stability). So in my situation, it was the bios that was faulty. I have had some very ramdom crashes to the desktop (3 of them) in games and one hardlock with a blank bluescreen in unreal2. This is over a span of a month. So it is not perfect. It might be the display drivers causing this, which I have recently upgraded, or I might need to back off my ram timings which are at 2-2-2-5 which this ram can handle easily at 166. 3dmark has yet to crash. Prime 95 passed when I ran it for 30 minutes. Im going to run prime 95 today and see if it will run for like 12 hours stable. Im still looking into getting a new nforce 2 mobo, however (abit or asus).
I hope this helps your situation, you should give it a try. Although, the 5.6 bios does not support the 3000+. It might still work, it will maybe just not show up as a 3000+ in the bios, but as a 2.17 Athlon XP.
I think MSI should be made aware of this possible 5.7 bios fsb instability. Why spread spectrum seems to be related in my situation, is really odd also.

KT3 Ultra-ARU SB Live! problem when using onboard Promise MBFasttrak 1

Hello !
I have one little problem with my motherboard. I know it's a little bit older compared to today's MSI production.. I have a MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU motherboard. I used only VT8233A southbridge's IDE until now, and everything worked perfectly. But now, I bought two Maxtor 80GB disks and placed them to a onboard Promise MBFasttrak 133 Lite (PDC20276) RAID in stripping mode. Everything works, except Soundblaster Live!. The soundcard itself works normally, but when I start to copy some files (and have some MP3's or video's running) the audio gets distorted in rythm with data transfer. I checked IRQs or address spaces, but IDE is on another IRQ than any other device, the same is address space. Had anyone the same experience with this "problem" ? Please let me know...
My configuration:
MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU
AMD Athlon XP 1700+
256MB RAM DDR 333
2x Maxtor DiamondMax 9 80.0GB
nVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200
ATi TVWonder
RTL8029 ethernet card
SoundBlaster Live! 5.1
Teac CD-E540 cd-rom
Sony DRU-190A cd-rw

Hi,
I think you should install at least the VIA RPP patch (http://www.viaarena.com), maybe also the patch from http://www.georgebreese.com.
Hans

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