KT3 Ultra2/AMD/RAM problems.

Okay, this is my first time taking it to a forum for help, so dont let me down guys.
Im a tech at DrComputers in Oklahoma, right now Im stumped with a problem that I have seen twice. It all has to deal with the Kt3 Ultra2 board, 2000+ or 2200+ AMD XP, and Samsung 512 2700 ddr sticks.
Here is the lay out, the board is ground mounted, meaning no case and a rubber/foam layer below it, CPU has a large heatsink on it, more then it needs. There are no other devices attached to it other then a vid card, no hdd's, no fd's, no cdroms.  As for the RAM, I have two sticks of 512 of Samsung 2700.
It will not hold a host clock speed of 133, but it stays fine at 100. I have changed the DRAM timing as shown.
 SDR timing by                  User
  Sdram frequency            HCLK+33
   sdram case latency       2
   Row Precharge time     2t
   RAS Pulse Width           5t
   RAS to CAS delay          3t
   SDRAM band interleave 4 way
   SDram burst lenght       4 qw
   SDRAM 1t command       Enabled
   Fast Command              Ultra
I have changed those values to the other ones, and it wont hold the memory nor the CPU posted speed. All it will tell me is 512 megs and 1500+ XP.
And I have flashed the BIOS.
Thank you if you can help me, I just need it that bad.

umm...i have my KT3 ultra w running at Ultra +HCLK+33 and max mem timings...you should put your foot back in your mouth :]
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Originally posted by modelt
This board will probably not function with timing set to ULTRA and memory function set to HCLK+33.  This equates to very aggressive timings that most memory cannot run.   Set timing to FAST and memory to HCLK.  
HCLK+33 sets memory bus to 166 MHz (DDR333) but the bus between the CPU and memory controller is still at 133 MHz.  From what I have read and talking to other users the HCLK+33 only gives at most 3 to 7 % increase in memory benchmarks but most do not notice any increase in normal programs or games.

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    Model Name  6380E
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    Duron 650  100 6.5 OK
    Duron 700  100 7 OK
    Duron 750  100 7.5 OK
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    Duron 1600 133 12 NO
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    Athlon (Thunderbird) 1.3G 100 13 OK
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    Iscaran, you are indeed correct in the statement which you made
    Quote
    ...after adding one BIOS setting after another I narrowed the problem down to the "CPU Fast Command (decode)" Function...if set to Ultra it does not boot-up when running 166 MHz FSB, it does not even let me into BIOS. I have to clear CMOS and restart from scratch again...
    This setting can be set to fast/ultra on the KT3 Ultra2 when using PC2100 ram running at 266. However, when using PC2700 ram running at 333, this setting MUST be set to normal for the satisfactory operation of the board. I know that you have PC3200 ram actually installed but it is only running at 333.
    Quote
    Is this normal and expectable with a Barton 3000+ running at the native 166 MHz FSB or not ?
    Yes, absolutely normal
    Quote
    There is only one more thing I noticed, the CPU V-Core is shown to be only 1.616 V (setting on "Auto" but it should be 1.65 V ? Should I increase the V-Core to 1.675 V in order to get closer to 1.65 V or shouldn't I worry about ?
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    Quote
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