KT3 ultra2 MS-6380 and my Geforce 4 ti4400

Hello everyone! The other day I started up my computer and all I got was various lines of horizontal and vertical colors. After I would restart it, it would start up normally without a problem. Now I can't even get it to start up normally. I decided to put in my mom's voodoo 3 card and that works just fine. So then I decided to put my Geforce 4 into my mom's computer. Her computer consist of a P3 450 with 256 SDR ram. My card works just fine in her computer with no problems that I was having on mine. I have tried new drivers for my video card and motherboard chipset. I have also reformatted my computer and that had no effect. Also, when I start up now, my moniter doesn't even turn on, like the computer isn't sending anything out. Once I restart it again though, it does not do this...usually.
Computer specs:
KT3 ultra2 MS-6380
AMD Athlon 1800+
Geforce 4 ti4400
512 DDR Ram
Western Digital 80GB HD

read a good for once bit on toms hardware
revue of 21 low end power supplies
some cheap generics have nothing to stop them trying to supply over their rated currents,until they go bang
i can only guess its starting to give up the ghost
http://www6.tomshardware.com/howto/02q4/021102/stability-01.html

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Field   Value
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Memory Bus Properties
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Motherboard Physical Info
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Motherboard Chipset   KT333
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Driver Update   http://driveragent.com?ref=59
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BIOS Upgrades   http://www.esupport.com/biosagent/index.cfm?refererid=40
BIOS Download   http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=downloadindex
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Originally posted by Stevesmith
I have a new 845E Max2 motherboard and installed Windows XP.
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[email protected]

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