Kt3-ultra2 OC.. Plz Help!

Hi all! I need help with overclocking my 1800+ sitting in kt3ultra2 (6380E).
Now it's running @ 2400+ (1920 Mhz) the multiplyer is 11.5, the fsb is 166 Mhz, vcore 1.675. The problem is that i can't use agressive memory settings when the fsb is at 166.. I mean 2.2.6.2 and i can't set the ultra mode too, cause when i change theese settings the pc wont boot again. I need to reset the cmos. And if i put the multiplier higher, 4example 12.0 or the fsb up with even 1 Mhz i get the same result. This is a bit weird, cause the cpu's iddle @2400+ is only 41 Celsius. I heard about oc-ing 1700/1800 up to 2800 Mhz.. and i want to gain the max from this cpu. If somebody has oc-d this mobo please tell me how!
Thanx a lot!
msi kt3ultra2
athlon xp 1800+(tb-b) @2400+
512 Apacer DDR333
Msi G2tiPro-vt
IBM Desktar 120GXP 80GB
Quantum Fireball Lct10
300W noname PSU
Sound Blaster Live 5.1 W/kx driver
sound blaster 128 pci
teac cd-540e
teac cdw-552ek

Mine hit the wall at 1920Mhz too until I modded my processor by closing all the L11 bridges. This defaults the Vcore to 1.85 volts, which you can adjust down to 1.75 if you so chose, but make sure you have VERY good cooling if you run 1.85. My system in water cooled so I don't have a heat problem. Processor never gets over 42C full load running 1.85 volts at 11x183. Your problem if I read correctly is the Corsair ram your using. It, in my experience with 5 different sticks of XMS PC3200, is utter crap for these boards. IF you want to get past 166, set your timings to 2.5 3 3 6T 1T command rate disabled and system performance to normal. I had some old OCZ PC2400 that would run 2 2 2 1T Ultra all day at 152, but this Corsair junk won't even do it at 133. I can run 10x200 with the memory timings set to 2.5 3 3 6T, but my NIC and Audigy can't handle the resulting 40Mhz PCI bus, so I run at 11x183 without issue. I noticed very little performance difference in this memory between 2 2 2 and 2.5 3 3. (It was less than 150 points in Sandra and not noticeable anywhere else) I have only successfully gotten it to run at 2 2 2 timings at 183 for about a 2 day period. Then I tried to update to the 5.7 BIOS and try a Barton core, didn't work as 5.7 BIOS has a very big issue with Radeon 9700 Pros apparently, and after flashing back to 5.6, I have never again achieved stability at 2 2 2 timings at any FSB above 150 with this Corsair Ram. A borrowed stick of OCZ PC3700 runs flawlessly at 2 2 2 5T 1T command enabled at 10.5x190 all day long as long as system performance is set to Normal or Fast. Ultra will not boot above 166 with any memory regardless of the timings. When I get some free time to mess around with it, I am going to pawn this Corsair crap off on someone who doesn't know better and get some Geil or OCZ. Just remember that above 166, for every 5Mhz increase in FSB, your PCI bus is going up 1Mhz. At 37Mhz PCI bus and above (ie 185 and higher FSB)things are going to start getting a littly flaky with your PCI devices and you start running the risk of data corruption. You have a pretty decent OC already, but I think your going to have to figure out a way to get more Vcore to go any further. Good luck!!
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First I changed the CPU form my old AMD XP 2100+ to the new Barton 3000 + with its new Arctic Cool Copper Silent 2TC.
Then I went into BIOS and raised the FSB to 166 MHz, which should be the correct one, or do I have to put 167 MHz in there (since 166.666666 MHz is rounded to 167)?
Then I exited and watched the restart...but it didn't start-up it only got me 3 long beeps at the HOST.
After some whining and beating I plugged out anything and cleared CMOS and started the whole thing again:
System after Clearing CMOS:
Mainboard: KT3 Ultra 2 (BIOS v5.7)
CPU: AMD XP 3000+ FSB 100 MHz
RAM: 1x512 MB Infineon PC3200 CL 2-3-3-7 (BIOS setting CAS Latency by "SPD")
Storage: Western Digital WD800BB (80 GB) (Firmware 17.07W17)
Monitor: Samsung Syncmaster 172T with Driver Version 1.0
OS: Windows 2000 Professional with Service Pack 4
With all Default settings, the Computer boots up, and is correctly Recognized as a Barton 1300 MHz.
When increasing FSB to 133 MHz it is correctly displayed as a Barton 2200+
NOW...
...after adding one BIOS setting after another I narrowed the problem down to the "CPU Fast Command (decode)" Function...if set to Ultra it does not boot-up when running 166 MHz FSB, it does not even let me into BIOS. I have to clear CMOS and restart from scratch again...
Is this normal and expectable with a Barton 3000+ running at the native 166 MHz FSB or not ?
Since my system before was running on "Ultra" with my old AMD XP 2100+.
There is only one more thing I noticed, the CPU V-Core is shown to be only 1.616 V (setting on "Auto" but it should be 1.65 V ? Should I increase the V-Core to 1.675 V in order to get closer to 1.65 V or shouldn't I worry about ?
Thanks for any Input you can give me on the problem.
Iscaran

Iscaran, you are indeed correct in the statement which you made
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...after adding one BIOS setting after another I narrowed the problem down to the "CPU Fast Command (decode)" Function...if set to Ultra it does not boot-up when running 166 MHz FSB, it does not even let me into BIOS. I have to clear CMOS and restart from scratch again...
This setting can be set to fast/ultra on the KT3 Ultra2 when using PC2100 ram running at 266. However, when using PC2700 ram running at 333, this setting MUST be set to normal for the satisfactory operation of the board. I know that you have PC3200 ram actually installed but it is only running at 333.
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Is this normal and expectable with a Barton 3000+ running at the native 166 MHz FSB or not ?
Yes, absolutely normal
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There is only one more thing I noticed, the CPU V-Core is shown to be only 1.616 V (setting on "Auto" but it should be 1.65 V ? Should I increase the V-Core to 1.675 V in order to get closer to 1.65 V or shouldn't I worry about ?
How are you measuring this ie Bios or o/s utility? Not unknown that these are incorrect. However, if you feel unhappy about this, try setting the V-core manually to 1.65v and check what this gives.
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So 3.3 V x 22 A gives 72.6 W, that could be really a little cutting the edge. Could that cause the board to not respond when setting the "CPU Fast Command" to "Ultra" ?
Getting a more powerful psu will not likely cure this well documented problem.
However, this board mostly draws power from the 3.3 & 5v rails. The 12v is mostly used to power HDD, optical and fans. When you consider that 128Mb of ram draws about 8-10w from the 5v rail and you have a total of 1.5Gb that adds up to 96-120W of juice just for the memory alone. This board will beep at you at o/s level when it's running underpowered but my opinion is the same as osnavi's your 3.3v & 5v rails are too low. Also what is combined 3.3v & 5v wattage. What kind of reading do you get on monitoring utilities.
By the way I have as you can see from my dets below the same board and cpu as you and when I changed from a XP2000 Palomino with PC2100 ram to XP3000 Barton and PC3200, I changed the 'Fast Command' setting from 'Fast' to 'Normal'
Hope this helps, enjoy the board

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Originally posted by maesus
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