[KT3 Ultra2-R / PSU] Upgrading to Barton 3000+

Hi!
I'm thinking about upgrading from my 2200+ to a Barton 3000+ chip. Is there any problems with this? Is my PSU good enough to handle the upgrade?
My PSU is Antec TruePower 380P (+5V: 35A, +12V: 18A, +3.3V: 28A).
After the upgrade my computer's specs would be:
MSI KT3 Ultra2-R
AMD Athlon Barton 3000+
2x512mb Kingston ValueRAM
GeForce4 Ti4600
80gb Western Digital HDD + 40gb Seagate HDD
CD-RW drive
SB Audigy
3 case fans
How about if I add a third 512mb DIMM, a 80gb HDD and change the GF4 to a Radeon 9800? Would the PSU still be good enough?
Thanks in advance!

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Originally posted by Sharp
The board will require the latest BIOS too.
I've already flashed it to 5.7.
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Originally posted by Sharp
You should not mix ram as it can cause problems, even if it is the same model/make. The revision must be the same.
Really? I think my ValueRAM are different revision, but I'm not having any problems. I guess I'm lucky.
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Originally posted by Sharp
Would that be a 9800se, 9800pro or 9800XT?
Haven't thought about that yet, because I only have the money for the processor upgrade.

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Lack of Ghz KT3 Ultra2 Barton 3000+

Dont want to sound like a broken record but I aswell am having problems with my newly purchased Barton 3000+ (400 fsb) with my MSI KT3 Ultra2. The problem is that whenever I try to set the FSB to the correct level, the computer fails to boot and I have to jump the cmos. I updated my bios to ver 5.7, and the highest i can get is to a 2400+
Two possible reasons I think are I have a Thermaltake Volcano 8 (which i believe isnt up to par) and my powersupply is a bit below the specs in the troubleshooting faq: L&C brand PSU +3.3V/24A +5V/35A +12V/12A. However I'm reluctant to go buy replacement parts because I've read of the people who did and it didnt help (limited budget.)
I've tried flashing with 3 different versions of 5.7 drivers, and even gave the 5.6 a go (highest i could get was 2200+) The highest I could get the FSB is to 199, but as soon as i try for 200 it zonks out on me. I've got 768 megs of no name ram that has served me well, and so thats not the problem... (hope not) I've also read a buncho topics and tried various things from them.
If I missed anything lemme know....
Oh while I'm here, my computer likes to restart itself whenever I tell it to shutdown. Sometimes it does stay off, usually when not running for very long. On occasion (not very often) It will come on on its own accord, which kinda concerns me

I don't know for sure, but aren't there two different types of Barton's being sold. One with a FSB 333 and one with 400 ?
So I think you will have to get the other type in order to get it working, since the mobo does only support FSB up to 333 MHz.
Maybe you can just replace the CPU where you bought it ?
Iscaran

BIOS Settings Problem on KT3 Ultra2 MS-6380E with Barton 3000+(FSB333)

Well, I finally got my Barton 3000+ with 333 MHz FSB and installed it yesterday in my MSI KT3 Ultra2 Mainboard....
System Before changing anything:
PSU: DTK 400 W
+3.3 V / 22 A
+5 V / 35 A
+12 V / 15 A
-5 V / 0.5 A
-12 V / 0.8 A
+5 V VSB / 3 A
So that should make up 400 W as far as I know, my total System drain should be around 300-350 W so even if it would not suffice 400 W it should run the system ?
Mainboard: KT3 Ultra 2 (BIOS v5.7)
CPU: AMD XP 2100 FSB 133 MHz
RAM: 1.536 MB, 3x512 MB Infineon PC3200 (400MHz) CL 3-3-3-8 @400MHz, Cl2.5-3-3-7@333Mhz, 2-2-2-6@266MHz
VGA: MSI RX-9800 Pro 128 MB
DVD/CD-R/RW-Combo: Plextor PX-708 (Firmware 1.08)
CD-R/RW: TEAC CD-W540E (Firmware 1.0K)
Storage: Western Digital WD800BB (80 GB) (Firmware 17.07W17)
USB-Storage: Maxtor 4 K080 H4 (80 GB)
Monitor: Samsung Syncmaster 172T with Driver Version 1.0
Printer: HP Deskjet 970Cxi with Original HP Driver Version 4.3
OS: Windows 2000 Professional with Service Pack 4
BIOS Settings: SDRAM 1T Command: "Disabled" It won't work stable with 3 RAM's in it with that setting, but that I did know before.
CPU Fast Command: "Ultra"
System was running stable for nearly 2 years with this Configuration:
So now it goes:
First I changed the CPU form my old AMD XP 2100+ to the new Barton 3000 + with its new Arctic Cool Copper Silent 2TC.
Then I went into BIOS and raised the FSB to 166 MHz, which should be the correct one, or do I have to put 167 MHz in there (since 166.666666 MHz is rounded to 167)?
Then I exited and watched the restart...but it didn't start-up it only got me 3 long beeps at the HOST.
After some whining and beating I plugged out anything and cleared CMOS and started the whole thing again:
System after Clearing CMOS:
Mainboard: KT3 Ultra 2 (BIOS v5.7)
CPU: AMD XP 3000+ FSB 100 MHz
RAM: 1x512 MB Infineon PC3200 CL 2-3-3-7 (BIOS setting CAS Latency by "SPD")
Storage: Western Digital WD800BB (80 GB) (Firmware 17.07W17)
Monitor: Samsung Syncmaster 172T with Driver Version 1.0
OS: Windows 2000 Professional with Service Pack 4
With all Default settings, the Computer boots up, and is correctly Recognized as a Barton 1300 MHz.
When increasing FSB to 133 MHz it is correctly displayed as a Barton 2200+
NOW...
...after adding one BIOS setting after another I narrowed the problem down to the "CPU Fast Command (decode)" Function...if set to Ultra it does not boot-up when running 166 MHz FSB, it does not even let me into BIOS. I have to clear CMOS and restart from scratch again...
Is this normal and expectable with a Barton 3000+ running at the native 166 MHz FSB or not ?
Since my system before was running on "Ultra" with my old AMD XP 2100+.
There is only one more thing I noticed, the CPU V-Core is shown to be only 1.616 V (setting on "Auto" but it should be 1.65 V ? Should I increase the V-Core to 1.675 V in order to get closer to 1.65 V or shouldn't I worry about ?
Thanks for any Input you can give me on the problem.
Iscaran

Iscaran, you are indeed correct in the statement which you made
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...after adding one BIOS setting after another I narrowed the problem down to the "CPU Fast Command (decode)" Function...if set to Ultra it does not boot-up when running 166 MHz FSB, it does not even let me into BIOS. I have to clear CMOS and restart from scratch again...
This setting can be set to fast/ultra on the KT3 Ultra2 when using PC2100 ram running at 266. However, when using PC2700 ram running at 333, this setting MUST be set to normal for the satisfactory operation of the board. I know that you have PC3200 ram actually installed but it is only running at 333.
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Is this normal and expectable with a Barton 3000+ running at the native 166 MHz FSB or not ?
Yes, absolutely normal
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There is only one more thing I noticed, the CPU V-Core is shown to be only 1.616 V (setting on "Auto" but it should be 1.65 V ? Should I increase the V-Core to 1.675 V in order to get closer to 1.65 V or shouldn't I worry about ?
How are you measuring this ie Bios or o/s utility? Not unknown that these are incorrect. However, if you feel unhappy about this, try setting the V-core manually to 1.65v and check what this gives.
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So 3.3 V x 22 A gives 72.6 W, that could be really a little cutting the edge. Could that cause the board to not respond when setting the "CPU Fast Command" to "Ultra" ?
Getting a more powerful psu will not likely cure this well documented problem.
However, this board mostly draws power from the 3.3 & 5v rails. The 12v is mostly used to power HDD, optical and fans. When you consider that 128Mb of ram draws about 8-10w from the 5v rail and you have a total of 1.5Gb that adds up to 96-120W of juice just for the memory alone. This board will beep at you at o/s level when it's running underpowered but my opinion is the same as osnavi's your 3.3v & 5v rails are too low. Also what is combined 3.3v & 5v wattage. What kind of reading do you get on monitoring utilities.
By the way I have as you can see from my dets below the same board and cpu as you and when I changed from a XP2000 Palomino with PC2100 ram to XP3000 Barton and PC3200, I changed the 'Fast Command' setting from 'Fast' to 'Normal'
Hope this helps, enjoy the board

KT3 ultra2 with amd barton 3000+ problems

Ok so I upgraded from a 1800+ to a barton 3000+, and im having problems running the chip. Iv set the fsb to 166, the ram to HCLK, tried running with just one stick, it runs for about 5min then restarts. Any ideas?
System specs
Msi kt3 Ultra 2 (newest bios 5.7)
Msi GF fx 5900 not overclocked
2x 512 pc3200 ram, one stick is kingston other is OCZ
Sound blaster Audigy
Enermax 365 watt pws
20gb maxtor hd (lol)

Well if you purchased an Athlon XP 3000+ which is a 400mhz chip and are trying to run it at 333mhz instead of 400mhz that might be the issue aside from the fact that the KT3 Ultra2 does not support that chip so it could also be a bios issue.
I retract a little of that. There is an Athlon XP 3000+ 333mhz chip. But are you sure this is what you obtained? If not that is your problem.

XP 3000+ "Barton" on MSI KT3 Ultra2?

Hi,
Can I install AMD Athlon XP 3000+ "Barton" (333 Mhz) on the MSI KT3 Ultra2?
According to MSI latest BIOS update v5.7 it should not be a problem.
My specs
* MSI VIA KT3 Ultra2
* AMD Athlon XP 2000+, using 266MHz FSB
* 256MB Kingston PC2700, using 333MHz FSB
* MSI GeForce4 MX460 64 MB
* 1 x 60 GB Maxtor ATA133 7200rpm
* 1 x 40 GB Maxtor ATA133 7200rpm
* 1 x Lite-On DVD-RW
* 1 x Pioneer DVD-ROM
* Windows XP Proff.[/COLOR]
Roger

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KT3 Ultra Series CPU Support Status
Marketing Name KT3 Ultra
Model Name 6380E
PCB Version 1
BIOS Version A6380VMS.570
CPU FSB Ratio Result
Spitfire (0.18u) 100/200MHz FSB
Duron 600 100 6 OK
Duron 650 100 6.5 OK
Duron 700 100 7 OK
Duron 750 100 7.5 OK
Duron 800 100 8 OK
Duron 850 100 8.5 OK
Duron 900 100 9 OK
Duron 950 100 9.5 OK
Duron 1G 100 10 OK
Morgan (0.18u) 100/200MHz FSB
Duron 900 100 9 OK
Duron 950 100 9.5 OK
Duron 1G 100 10 OK
Duron 1.1G 100 11 OK
Duron 1.2G 100 12 OK
Duron 1.3G 100 13 OK
Applebred (0.13um) 133/266MHz FSB
Duron 1400 133 10.5 NO
Duron 1600 133 12 NO
Duron 1800 133 13.5 NO
Thunderbird (0.18um) 100(133)/200(266)MHz FSB
Athlon (Thunderbird) 650 100 6.5 OK
Athlon (Thunderbird) 700 100 7 OK
Athlon (Thunderbird) 750 100 7.5 OK
Athlon (Thunderbird) 800 100 8 OK
Athlon (Thunderbird) 850 100 8.5 OK
Athlon (Thunderbird) 900 100 9 OK
Athlon (Thunderbird) 950 100 9.5 OK
Athlon (Thunderbird) 1G 100 10 OK
Athlon (Thunderbird) 1G 133 7.5 OK
Athlon (Thunderbird) 1.1G 100 11 OK
Athlon (Thunderbird) 1.13G 133 8.5 OK
Athlon (Thunderbird) 1.2G 100 12 OK
Athlon (Thunderbird) 1.2G 133 9 OK
Athlon (Thunderbird) 1.3G 100 13 OK
Athlon (Thunderbird) 1.33G 133 10 OK
Athlon (Thunderbird) 1.4G 100 14 OK
Athlon (Thunderbird) 1.4G 133 10.5 OK
Palomino (0.18u) 133/266MHz FSB
AthlonXP 1500+ 133 Auto OK
AthlonXP 1600+ 133 Auto OK
AthlonXP 1700+ 133 Auto OK
AthlonXP 1800+ 133 Auto OK
AthlonXP 1900+ 133 Auto OK
AthlonXP 2000+ 133 Auto OK
AthlonXP 2100+ 133 Auto OK
Thoroughbred (0.13u) 133/266MHz FSB
AthlonXP 1700+ 133 Auto OK
AthlonXP 1800+ 133 Auto OK
AthlonXP 1900+ 133 Auto OK
AthlonXP 2000+ 133 Auto OK
AthlonXP 2100+ 133 Auto OK
AthlonXP 2200+ 133 Auto OK
AthlonXP 2400+ 133 Auto OK
AthlonXP 2600+ 133 Auto OK
Thoroughbred (0.13u) 166/333MHz FSB
AthlonXP 2800+ 166 Auto NO
Thorton (0.13u) 133/266MHz FSB 256KB L2 Cache
AthlonXP 2000+ 133 Auto NO
AthlonXP 2200+ 133 Auto NO
AthlonXP 2400+ 133 Auto NO
Thorton (0.13u) 166/333MHz FSB 256KB L2 Cache
AthlonXP 2600+ 166 Auto NO
Barton (0.13u) 166/333MHz FSB 512KB L2 Cache
AthlonXP 2500+ 166 Auto NO
AthlonXP 2800+ 166 Auto NO
AthlonXP 3000+ 166 Auto NO
Barton (0.13u) 200/400MHz FSB 512KB L2 Cache
AthlonXP 3000+ 200 Auto NO
AthlonXP 3200+ 200 Auto NO
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KT3 Ultra 2R + Barton 3000+

Hi all..
Hope someone can help.
I have a KT3 Ultra 2R board with the following stats:
Athlon XP (Barton) 3000+ FSB 166 CPU
CoolerMaster HHC-001 heatpipe H/sink with 80mm fan
Antec 520W PSU
2 x 100 ATA Maxtor Viper 80Gb HDD's with 8Mb cache each in striped RAID array
Asus TI 4600 Ultra 128Mb V/card
Audigy S/card
Lite-on CD/RW
Lite-on CD/DVD
2 x 512Mb Corsair XMS 3000 DDR Ram (333 and above) with aluminium heat spreaders
Lian-Li PC70 Tower case with 6 x 80mm fans
Rounded cables throughout
Win XP + SP1
The Problem:
This system worked fine with an Athlon XP 2200 CPU and I read MSI's CPU support list and saw the KT3 Ultra 2 6380E supported the Barton XP 3000+ CPU's so I bought one. :P
At first I had trouble booting on the 5.7 version bios, with the lock ups throught the bootup process. I reset the bois to the defaults and slowly worked up the settings using the recommendations in the forums.
At the moment, the system will boot up with fast command set to normal, no agressive DDR timings, 1T command disabled, fastwrite disabled, agp read/write disabled and SDRAM set to SPD (HCLK).
My 3DMark01 & 3DMark03 scores are lower than when I had the XP 2200 CPU installed and the SiSoft sandra results are the equivalent of a Athlon 2000. MSI says the board supports the Barton 3000+, but at what cost ??? :O
The system is very unstable and and requires on average 3 boots to boot up successfully. The 3DMark03 test often locks up mid way.
Any help or the settings MSI or you used to achieve their results would be VERY helpful. Please Help... ;(

I have had a similar problem running my kt3 ultra2 (non raid) at 166 fsb. In mid april I bought a 2600+ 166 fsb athlon to upgrade my system from a 1.2 ghz athlon. I bought some new pc2700 crucial ram to go along with the processor. I had also recently bought a radeon 9700 pro in late march, and a 1.2 athlon would just be a waste of this great vid card. I had been running fine with the radeon and the 1.2 athlon with the msi 5.7 bios and 4.43 via 4-in-1's.
I battled this problem for weeks. I bought a new antec 550 watt PSU, corsair xms 3200 ram, and new antec tower case trying to find out if the problem was ram, power or heat. I should also note that turning on spread spectrum helped a little in stability. Setting it to .50% made it stable in windows and games, but the computer would not turn on if shutdown unless I cleared the cmos. No setting besides this had any effect on stability. Even conservative ram timings. I was about to buy an Asus a7n8x when I realized that I had once run my old cpu and ram at 166 fsb when I had the 5.6 bios a couple of months back. I did not keep it like that in fear of damaging the ram while overclocked.
So I reflashed to 5.6 which still supported the 2600+. That finally worked almost perfectly, although I still have to keep spread spectrum at .25% to be stable (which is odd, people say that is supposed to hurt stability). So in my situation, it was the bios that was faulty. I have had some very ramdom crashes to the desktop (3 of them) in games and one hardlock with a blank bluescreen in unreal2. This is over a span of a month. So it is not perfect. It might be the display drivers causing this, which I have recently upgraded, or I might need to back off my ram timings which are at 2-2-2-5 which this ram can handle easily at 166. 3dmark has yet to crash. Prime 95 passed when I ran it for 30 minutes. Im going to run prime 95 today and see if it will run for like 12 hours stable. Im still looking into getting a new nforce 2 mobo, however (abit or asus).
I hope this helps your situation, you should give it a try. Although, the 5.6 bios does not support the 3000+. It might still work, it will maybe just not show up as a 3000+ in the bios, but as a 2.17 Athlon XP.
I think MSI should be made aware of this possible 5.7 bios fsb instability. Why spread spectrum seems to be related in my situation, is really odd also.

KT3 Ultra2-R new - running well 3000+ 512/PC3200

Well I've finally upgraded one of my machines from seriously poor to really quite good with this motherboard.
Wanted to upgrade the machine at minumum cost (other than processor) without throwing out quite a good (though old) AGPx2 graphics card. So I found a KT3 Ultra2-R on ebay. Had trouble finding a fast athlon to go on it. Even used no warrantee ones were selling for mad money on ebay-uk. Found a chap who could supply a new OEM XP3000+. Found the memory at ebuyer where it was cheaper than on ebay!
My existing PSU looked iffy for an athlon 3000+ so I found a good enermax one. A bit pricey but good. Its an older model so suitable for a 3.3 & 5v loading system such as this. Oddly there appear to have been two versions of the EG465P-VE. The older ones had 38/44/20 according to several places on the net, but this version has 35/35/35. It had me worried for a bit as I found the higher specs before I ordered it and the lower specs afterwards.
All running quite nicely.
Any recommendations to get the best performance out of it all. I may not want to madly overclock though as the old setup was notoriously unstable and I want this one to be rock solid.

I've left the BIOS on auto mostly - so the memory should be doing 333 (PC2700) - but its got headroom if I want to try clocking it up a bit AND it was cheaper than the memory rated PC2700, and its slightly more future proof.
I'm still trying to check the bios version at the moment. It goes past too fast to read on the first bios screen. Live update seems unhappy with Mozilla as a browser? Can't get sense out of it yet.
All seems stable although the onboard sound has disappeared in the last 24 hours. It was working before. sigh.

KT3 Ultra2-R w/Barton 2500+ will not run at 166FSB

hello again all . well in light of MSI's recent Bios revision for the KT3 Ultra2-R coming with support for the Barton up to 3000+ and the cost of the 2500+ coming down to $96 dollars (retail) at Newegg i couldn't resist the headache i now have. so far every attempt i have made at 166FSB has crashed and burned.
currently the system is running at 12.5x156 given that when i try to run at 11x157 to 11x160 the system locks during PCMark2002/3DMark2001SE benching. what's even more amusing is that if i go to 11x161 to 11x165 the system will not even fire up the drives on the Promise ATA133 RAID controller. at 166FSB the system outright doesn't post. MSI has responded to me and told me that it is my memory which i find comical as both sticks have been tried separately and that boot issue to the RAID doesn't read as a memory problem to me (not to mention Corsair would laugh at that as well especially since the sticks are capable of 200FSB and backed with a lifetime warranty to do such).
so aside from trying every memory timing configuration possible on the board, stripping it down to just the video card, memory, and drives, without any luck any other notions as to what would be the problem would be greatly appreciated. thanks in advance!

Quote from: Bas on 07-November-07, 18:37:37
You should leave memory speed at spd/auto...
When you set the FSB, need to reboot before it kicks in.
If you check the memory speed after the reboot it should be upped as well.
This is the problem; the BIOS won't let me do what you've described.
If I reset the CMOS, the SDRAM settings look like this. So I go into Frequency/Voltage Control and change the FSB to 166MHz, like this, then the SDRAM settings have automatically changed to HCLK+66, like so and there are no longer any other options in the list, like so.
Saving the settings and exiting the BIOS causes it to fail to POST.

ENERMAX PSU AND KT3 ULTRA2

I just bought a new enermax EG465P-VE * D *( 431W ) and i love it also my motherboard ( KT3 ULTRA2 ) too. )
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MSI KT3 Ultra2
AMD Athlon 1800+/w AMD Fan
RADEON 7200 64 DDR
512MB Samsung DDR 333
ATX Tower
ENERMAX EG465P-VE D - 430W
3x TT Smart Case Fan
Onboard Audio
3Com 10/100 pci 3c905C-TXM
Window XP Pro

"...are there more than one xp 2600+?..." C'mon, didn't you read Dr. Stu's link page ? There are many 2600+ : 133 and 166 FSB. The Thorton, isn't supported, The Tbred. 133 and 166 FSB. are supported, and the Barton 166 FSB are supported. For 166 FSB. CPUs you need to upgrade Bios to ver 5.7 and you need PC 2700 Memory at least, and perhaps a better P.Su.

Problems with KT3 Ultra2 and Barton 2500+

I have a very big problem.
I buy new Athlon XP2500+ ty my board.
KT3 Ultra2 support 166FBS, but AGP and PCI bus is overclock (83/42) and my system is very instabile. Now using 133FBS. Can I fix bus to 166/66/33???
My configuration:
Win98SE+WinXPSP1
MSI KT3 Ultra2 (bios version 5.7)
Athlon 2500+@1900+ (Barton 11*133, 1,65V)
+ Spire 5F271B1L3 FalconRock II™
256MB RAM DDR-400 Kingmax (CL2 at 333, 1.7V*)- sorry I mean 2.7V*
Daytona ATI Radeon 9000 64MB DDR
SB Live! Value
AMD 10/100 LAN adapter
40GB Seagate HDD
Lite-on combo
FDD teac
add: 4 april 2004 at 15:17
My PSU is Emko 300W ''JS-300 P4''parametres in:http://www.emko.cz/emko_cz/index.html
1900+ temps: CPU: Chipset:2500+ temps: CPU: Chipset:At 2500+
Stability configuration si withount SB Live! value and LAN.
result: Memtest86 - O.K.
3DMark2001SE build330 - O.K.
SiSoft Sandra 2003 - O.K.(burn-in: CPU and memory test 20time)

what sandra version did you use?
next to temps and psu, please tell us, what bios is installed. barton cpus require version 5.7
"(CL2 at 333, 1.7V)" did you mean 2.7V? cause 1.7V are llittle too low.
sj

KT3 Ultra2 (MS-6380E) and Barton 2600+

Hello,
I have a MSI KT3 Ultra2 (MS-6380E).
I recently changed my CPU from AMD Athlon XP 1600+ (Palonimo, FSB 266) to AMD Athlon XP 2600+ (Barton, FSB 333).
I have the latest BIOS - v5.7.
The new CPU (Barton) appers as 2500+ not 2600+.
I read on MSI website that my mainboard supports CPUs up to 3000+ ...
What should I do ?
PS : The CPU is OK, I tried with another one; and YES - the FSB is set to 166.
Thanks in advance,
OJi.

You know, we've seen this before with Barton XP2600+ on older KT333 and KT400 MSI boards. Is anyone else using a Barton XP2600+ on an older MSI KT333 or KT400?
I purchased some XP2600+ processors almost a year ago (30 units) that I had been told were the older Thoroughbreds, but 27 of them turned out to be XP2600+ Thortons (AXDC2600DKV3C). Due to the enlongated core size and 256KB cache, they were indeed Thortons. However, the markings on the processor made me suspicious as they had Thoroughbred revision/stepping codes.
So I contacted AMD processor support, which initially told me the processors "looked ok" but that they couldn't be certain. That didn't make me any more comfortable, so after a lengthy process I was finally able to get my case referred to AMD Security Group which investigates remarked processors. It took them three months to get back with me, but I did receive a final determination: AMD never made XP2600 based on Thorton, not even for grey market customers. These were remarked processors. There is a thread over on AMD forums about it.
Upon learning of AMD's conclusion, my supplier took them back, explaining their "Asian" source had assured them they were grey market processors. I also know they had a fairly large quantity, and around the same time, news of AMD remarking operation busts in Taiwan were making headlines.
I'm wondering if MSI has confused the Barton XP2600+ for a Thorton? It would seems so, as AMD claims it never produced an XP2600+ Thorton, for anyone.

KT3 Ultra2 FSB speed after BIOS upgrade

I have just upgraded the BIOS on my KT3 Ultra2 mainboard. On the CPU Support page, it says my mainboard support CPUs with FSB @ 333 MHz with the newest BIOS, but in the manual it says that the FSB is @ 200/266 MHz. Did the BIOS upgrade increase the FSB so that the FSB now is @ 200/266/333 MHz?

it increased the options,you still have to set it after flashing though

KT3-Ultra2 (MS-6380E) PC3200

Okey once again problem with this board!
I decided to upgrade the comp a bit.
From Barton XP2500+ to Barton XP3000+
From 3x256MB DDR PC2700 to 2x512MB PC3200
Now ofc I know the board only supports 333MHz FSB.
I need the FSB to be 166MHz(x2=333MHz) for the Barton to run at the proper speed, I have never been able to get the multiplier to work, probably cause the CPU is locked.
Now the newly bought PC3200 refuses to run at a lower speed then 200MHz(x2=400MHz), No matter what I do, User settings, set SPD to HCLOCK. Dosn't matter. As soon as I insert a third DIMM, a PC2700 they obey my rules and works fine at 333MHz, but this board, cant handle 3 DIMMs at 333MHz, running MEMtest86, phat chance.
Using one of the PC3200 with the PC2700 works fine.
Using the second PC3200 with the PC2700 works fine.
But I cant set it up to work with only the two PC3200 cause they wont run at 333MHz, and I cant have all 3 DIMMs cause the board gives me the finger.
Ive also tried using one of the PC3200 and two PC2700, same thing, 3 DIMMs dosnt work.
So my question is, how can I force my PC3200 to run on 166MHz(x2=333MHz)?
Mainboard MSI KT3-Ultra2 (6380E ver1.0 with BIOS 5.7)
CPU AMD Barton XP3000+ (333MHz version)
Graphic-card Powercolor ATI Radeon 9800 PRO (No OC atm)
PSU Chieftec (HPC-360-202) 340W, 5V 35A, 3.3V 28A, 12V 17A.
Whole bunch of memories that pass the test when set up properly
4x512MB DDR PC3200 TwinMOS (matched 2 and 2)
2x256MB DDR PC2700 Nanya (matched)
1x256MB DDR PC2700 KVM

Frobe, lets be clear about this. Your rig ran fine with the set up which you described namely 2500 barton and 3x256mb pc2700 Ram. Is that correct?.
You now upgraded to xp3000 (in you sig you say xp3200) and are now using 2 sticks of pc3200 ram. Is this now correct?
With the new cpu and ram your rigs posts and works but you say that your new memory is detected at 400. Where is this showing 400 are you looking in the Bios and it shows HClck+33? Or is this by way of some software utility.
This board can only handle 333 mem by default, I have pc3200 mem in my pc (see my sig) and the bios runs it at HClck speed. There is no Hclck+33 option available.
This board is fussy about all 3 ram slots being used slots 1&3 work best as slots 1 & 2 share the MA channel to the northbridge whereas slot 3 uses the MB channel.
Try Running Fast command at 'Normal' (in advanced chipset>dram control) if you are not already.
You should have no trouble whatsoever running an xp3000 (333) together with pc3200 memory as described. The only reason I have only 1 stick of 512mb in my pc is that I dual boot with windows 98se and it does not work (with98) otherwise have run 1gb of ram with no issues.
What I would also suggest is that you clear the bios and check the clear nvram in the bios as well as follow Fredrik Åsenius advise namely to change the mem from spd to user.
Hope this helps

KT3 Ultra2 (MS6380E v1.0) and XP2800

I am at my wits end.
I had a MS-6380E board running fine with an XP1900.
Since upgrading to an XP2800 (which according to the MSI site is supported) I can’t get my system stable except by setting the FSB to 100 in BIOS. As I understand it, it should be set at 166. However, every time I attempt to set it at that value (or indeed any higher than about 125) the system shuts down (powers off) within a minute of booting up.
Consequently the CPU is running slow – about 1.25Ghz. If I increase the FSB to 166 the boot screen recognizes that it is running an XP2800 processor but I then have the instability problems described above.
I have tried everything I can think of. The BIOS (5.7) and motherboard drivers are all up to date. The fan tests fine. I went out and brought a new power supply (specs below) believing it would solve the problem (previously using a 350W PSU). It hasn’t even improved things. Maybe I need more power, but I would have thought that what I have bought is ample.
My system:
Codegen 450W ATX2.03(P4) Model 450x; 3.3V/25A, 5V/35A, 12V/16A (235W Max)
MSI KT3 Ultra2 MS-6380E v1.0
Athlon Barton XP2800 OPGA 1.65V 85C 512k 333MHz
2 * 256Mb 3200 Kingston (400)
MSI MS-StarForce GeForce4 MX 420 (NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420)
Creative SB Live! Series (WDM)
IDE ATA/ATAPI Controller
ST320420A and WDC WD1200JB-00GVA0 HDDs
LITEON DVD-ROM LTD165H, LITEON CD-RW LTR-40125S
FDD
CanoScan LiDE 20/N670U/N676U
HP Laserjet 1000 series
SoftV92 56k Data Fax Modem
Logitech Cordless MX Duo keyboard and mouse
Win XP Pro
I hope this information is adequate. Unfortunately I am only semi-computer literate.

"...2 * 256Mb 3200 Kingston (400)..." I really don't know for sure, but think Bios update (5.7) didn't change the Mobo's memory support, so, the max. speed supported should be PC 2700 (running 1:1 with CPU speed). You were running the old CPU with same memory ? At what speed ? Try with only 1 module to see if it works. Or if you can, try a PC 2700 memory to see if it works. Also agree with Wonka about P.S. Codegen are really not good. You must have in mind that this Mobo takes most of it's power from 3.3 and 5v. rails and the 3.3v. 25 A. isn't good for a pretty loaded PC as yours. But you say it runs for a minute or so, then also you could have a temp. problem as said by Toenne. Is HS seated OK ? (Not 180 degrees upside down and with only a drop of thermal grease, and is it strong enough for the job ? )

KT3 Ultra2 won't run XP 2500 at more than 151 Mhz

Not an unusual topic I know but I haven't found any solutions in this forum as yet!
With my XP 2000 cpu installed my system is stable when the FSB is overclocked to 150 Mhz. When I install the XP 2500 cpu and set the FSB in the BIOS (latest vertsion) to 166 Mhz it won't access the hard drives at all. My initial thought was the psu so I reduced the system to 1 hdd, 1 DVD rewriter, 256Mb memory and tried again. No change! Then I started reducing the FSB until at 151 Mhz it would boot but as an XP 1900 cpu. The VIA chipset drivers are up to date.
I' don't know what to try next. Any ideas?

I can only say, I'm running my KT3 Ultra2 with XP 2800+ without any problem at 333 Mhz. Remember you have to upgrade Bios with ver 5.7 so Mobo can work with a 166 FSB. Also, better try starting with only one memory module. You can take a look at my P.S. specs. on my sig. It's not too good, but enough for this rig. So, don't dispose yet your 2500+, try and tell us how did it go.
A bit off: Do you like this Forum ? If yes, Read the post on first page in this Forum " Forum Team on Strike...". If you want this Forum to stay as it is now, please send a mail to MSI. Adress is mentioned in first post.

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