KT3 Ultra2-R won't run 133FSB with XP2000+

Hi there!
I have just bought my self a MSI KT3 Ultra2-R mobo, a TwinMOS 512mb PC333 cas2 ram and a XP2000+ CPU with a GlacialTech HSF (certified for XP2600+)
When everything is in deafult in the bios, my fsb runs at 100mhz. When pumping it up to 133mhz my screen won't initialize and there are no beeps on startup. I have a 350W Enermax PSU that I know works!
Any suggestions to what I can do? Thanks...

Getting rid of the shim did the trick. Now I "only" have a stop at the initialisation of the HD controller. I've read some threads on that problem here, so I think I will be OK very soon .
Thanks all!

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First I changed the CPU form my old AMD XP 2100+ to the new Barton 3000 + with its new Arctic Cool Copper Silent 2TC.
Then I went into BIOS and raised the FSB to 166 MHz, which should be the correct one, or do I have to put 167 MHz in there (since 166.666666 MHz is rounded to 167)?
Then I exited and watched the restart...but it didn't start-up it only got me 3 long beeps at the HOST.
After some whining and beating I plugged out anything and cleared CMOS and started the whole thing again:
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Mainboard: KT3 Ultra 2 (BIOS v5.7)
CPU: AMD XP 3000+ FSB 100 MHz
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With all Default settings, the Computer boots up, and is correctly Recognized as a Barton 1300 MHz.
When increasing FSB to 133 MHz it is correctly displayed as a Barton 2200+
NOW...
...after adding one BIOS setting after another I narrowed the problem down to the "CPU Fast Command (decode)" Function...if set to Ultra it does not boot-up when running 166 MHz FSB, it does not even let me into BIOS. I have to clear CMOS and restart from scratch again...
Is this normal and expectable with a Barton 3000+ running at the native 166 MHz FSB or not ?
Since my system before was running on "Ultra" with my old AMD XP 2100+.
There is only one more thing I noticed, the CPU V-Core is shown to be only 1.616 V (setting on "Auto" but it should be 1.65 V ? Should I increase the V-Core to 1.675 V in order to get closer to 1.65 V or shouldn't I worry about ?
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Iscaran

Iscaran, you are indeed correct in the statement which you made
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...after adding one BIOS setting after another I narrowed the problem down to the "CPU Fast Command (decode)" Function...if set to Ultra it does not boot-up when running 166 MHz FSB, it does not even let me into BIOS. I have to clear CMOS and restart from scratch again...
This setting can be set to fast/ultra on the KT3 Ultra2 when using PC2100 ram running at 266. However, when using PC2700 ram running at 333, this setting MUST be set to normal for the satisfactory operation of the board. I know that you have PC3200 ram actually installed but it is only running at 333.
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Is this normal and expectable with a Barton 3000+ running at the native 166 MHz FSB or not ?
Yes, absolutely normal
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There is only one more thing I noticed, the CPU V-Core is shown to be only 1.616 V (setting on "Auto" but it should be 1.65 V ? Should I increase the V-Core to 1.675 V in order to get closer to 1.65 V or shouldn't I worry about ?
How are you measuring this ie Bios or o/s utility? Not unknown that these are incorrect. However, if you feel unhappy about this, try setting the V-core manually to 1.65v and check what this gives.
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So 3.3 V x 22 A gives 72.6 W, that could be really a little cutting the edge. Could that cause the board to not respond when setting the "CPU Fast Command" to "Ultra" ?
Getting a more powerful psu will not likely cure this well documented problem.
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I've searched the database multiple times for this, but couldn't find anyone with the same problem:
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currently the system is running at 12.5x156 given that when i try to run at 11x157 to 11x160 the system locks during PCMark2002/3DMark2001SE benching. what's even more amusing is that if i go to 11x161 to 11x165 the system will not even fire up the drives on the Promise ATA133 RAID controller. at 166FSB the system outright doesn't post. MSI has responded to me and told me that it is my memory which i find comical as both sticks have been tried separately and that boot issue to the RAID doesn't read as a memory problem to me (not to mention Corsair would laugh at that as well especially since the sticks are capable of 200FSB and backed with a lifetime warranty to do such).
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Quote from: Bas on 07-November-07, 18:37:37
You should leave memory speed at spd/auto...
When you set the FSB, need to reboot before it kicks in.
If you check the memory speed after the reboot it should be upped as well.
This is the problem; the BIOS won't let me do what you've described.
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Originally posted by Stevesmith
I have a new 845E Max2 motherboard and installed Windows XP.
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