KT3 ultra2 Raid MS6380E

I tried to start up my computer this morning and I've hit a problem.
The machine switches on and displays the video card type.
It then starts the auto detect of the hard drives.
Lists them all as auto
Then lists them depending on what they are
Hard Drive
CD
DVD
Zip disk
Then stops, it wont go any further.
I have tried getting into the bios but cant get that far.
I press Del and it changes on screen to go but still wont get past the last drive.
The only key out of del F11, F12 and Tab I can get to work is TAb and that displays the logo screen, But I cant get any further. It wont let me continue or get into the bios.
Anyone have any idea if I can sort this problem.
Robert

The first obvious question is did you change anything, even something small since the last time it worked okay? Do you have a CD or DVD or ZIP disk, or diskette in any of the drives? If so, remove them.
Do you have a D-bracket on the machine, or lights? For those not familiar with it, the D-bracket is standard on some boards, optional on others, and not available on others. Some boards even have them built onto the board. It has a set of four LEDs that tell you some diagnostic information.
Are the lights on the CD/DVD drive on? Is the light on the floppy on? How about the HD light?
Unplug anything, other than a mouse, in the USB ports. Any other add-in cards, e.g. firewire/IEEE1894.
If none of this helps, the next thing I would do is remove the hard drive(s) to see if you can then get into the BIOS. If you can't get into the BIOS, it is obviously not an operating system problem, so what is on the hard drive is not a factor. The health of the hard drive could be a factor.
Have you tried the del key to get into the BIOS and then just wait for it, even an hour? A bad hard drive will hang the machine, sometimes a very long time.

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Odd as it might seem I have to follow the proceedure listed below if I want to switch off power altogether to work on my pc.
1. Cold boot system with 166FSB and let O/S install
2. Reboot enter Bios and reduce FSB to 133 make sure to set memory speed as HCLK and let O/S load
3. Shut down and switch off power supply
4. Reconnect power and boot system. Enter bios set FSB to 166 (the mem speed will be HCLK)
5. System continues to boot and loads O/S
From that point on, cold boots (without cutting power supply) are not problematic as once the 166FSB is 'registered' everything works ok (at every cold boot). So anytime I wanna work on my pc I guess I have to do the above 5 steps. They seem to work but need to try it out a few more times before I am confident that this process will always work.
I am sure you agree that this is one strange mother of a problem.
I suppose the only 2 things left are a total O/S reload or trying another 333 cpu because I have tried everything else. I guess I will have to live with it.
I have also cut some additional front vents so that front fan draws more air in and it appears to have dropped my idle Temp to 40.5C on CPU (running at clock 2083Mhz).
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KT3 Ultra2 (problems with raid).

I have 4 80gb hard drives set up on my pc, and am trying to set them up as plain jbod drives, but the fastbuild utility that creates the arrays wont allow me to do anything besides a 1+0 stripe. Ive looked around for information on the controller itself (mbfasttrak133 lite), and really cant find anything useful on it at all. The 1+0 stripe seems to result in 4 80gb hard drives, but ive heard that if one drive fails in this setup, ill lose the info on 2 drives.
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That could be a problem then, my board just came with the standard kt3 ultra2 manual, and a few cool extras (some kind of cut out), but no manual on raid, and nothing in the kt3 manual about raid beyond a basic description.

KT3 Ultra2 R Raid Controller TIMEOUT

Can someone help me.
My problem is:
After a few minutes running WinXP-pro freezes for a few seconds.
In management console the event viewer shows an Error reported as "\device\SCSI\FASTRAK timeout... the controller didn't response to..." (I dont have the excact frase)
I've just installed XP pro on two WD Caviar 80GB IDE ATA 8MB cache 7200RPM in striping mode on my KT3 ultra2 r.
The disk reports as they were supposed to: 160gb.
I tried to follow the instruction, however I had some problems...
1. With the settings on the disks, the instructions told me to set both disk in master, but then "FastrakBios" didn’t recognize them. After changing the disk to CS, they where reported Ok.
2. Under normal formatting the computer froze..8 hrs formatting. I restarted the process, and selected quick formatting.
From this point everything went Ok.
I updated all MSI drivers, XP-Sp2, Fastrak drivers and all bios except Motherboard BIOS..
I've spent hours searching for troubleshoting/fixes or guidelines....

WD disks in stand alone mode can't be set to master, they need to be in CS or stand alone (no jumper) mode.
So that is not a problem.
I would recommend that you possably try changing the IDE cables and make sure they are not low quality rounded cables or over 50cm long because that can create problems.

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I am at my wits end.
I had a MS-6380E board running fine with an XP1900.
Since upgrading to an XP2800 (which according to the MSI site is supported) I can’t get my system stable except by setting the FSB to 100 in BIOS. As I understand it, it should be set at 166. However, every time I attempt to set it at that value (or indeed any higher than about 125) the system shuts down (powers off) within a minute of booting up.
Consequently the CPU is running slow – about 1.25Ghz. If I increase the FSB to 166 the boot screen recognizes that it is running an XP2800 processor but I then have the instability problems described above.
I have tried everything I can think of. The BIOS (5.7) and motherboard drivers are all up to date. The fan tests fine. I went out and brought a new power supply (specs below) believing it would solve the problem (previously using a 350W PSU). It hasn’t even improved things. Maybe I need more power, but I would have thought that what I have bought is ample.
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"...2 * 256Mb 3200 Kingston (400)..." I really don't know for sure, but think Bios update (5.7) didn't change the Mobo's memory support, so, the max. speed supported should be PC 2700 (running 1:1 with CPU speed). You were running the old CPU with same memory ? At what speed ? Try with only 1 module to see if it works. Or if you can, try a PC 2700 memory to see if it works. Also agree with Wonka about P.S. Codegen are really not good. You must have in mind that this Mobo takes most of it's power from 3.3 and 5v. rails and the 3.3v. 25 A. isn't good for a pretty loaded PC as yours. But you say it runs for a minute or so, then also you could have a temp. problem as said by Toenne. Is HS seated OK ? (Not 180 degrees upside down and with only a drop of thermal grease, and is it strong enough for the job ? )

Problems w/ KT3 Ultra2 w/R

I think the best thing to do it's to explain the problem from the beginning.
A couple of months ago I bought my computer by components and put it togheter myself. Everything was fine, but there was a problem. Back then, my mobo was an ABIT KX7333R and it wouldn't boot if I changed the processor speed in the bios (it booted allright with the defalut -XP 1500- but when changed it to the real one -XP 2000- it didn't boot at all). So I used it for about 3 weeks with the default setting (I was too lazy at that moment to change the damn thing) and one night, the computer died while I was using it. Anyway, I assumed twas the mobo, so I requested a RMA from Abit, and had my motherboard replaced. The replacement worked fine for about 10 minutes, and when I was writing an email, puff, died again. At that time I was swearing and cursing, and blamed Abit. By then, I was tired of waiting and everything (just got stressed) so I ordered an MSI KT3 Ultra2 with raid. When I first booted the PC, the motherboard didn't recognized my HDD when I entered the Bios. I tried restarting, but the pc would not respond. So I checked the D-Bracket lights and they say that the problem was in the IDE controller or device. So I replaced my HDD with another one, but nothing happened.
So, my questions are:
1- Am I the guy with the worst luck in the world and got three defective motherboards in a row?
2- Could it be that something else in my PC is causing the problem?
If you have any questions, please post it here and I'll answer them. Here it's my computer components:
Athlon XP 2000
MSI KT3 Ultra2
Gainward GF4 TI4200
SB Audigy Gamer
3COM Ethernet card
Corsair XMS PC2700 512MB (Silver heatspreader)
Turbolink 420W PS
Lite-On CDRW
PS: Sorry for the length...

Have you tried with another CPU ? If not, please do so ; or return the CPU for RMA.

Unable to adjust voltage past 1.6v on KT3 Ultra2-R

currently i've got an XP1700+ AIUGA running at 2100+ on a KT3 Ultra2-R but for some wild reason cannot get the voltage to go beyond 1.475-1.6. the chip has the L11 bridges cut to 1.5 but that should not impede this. anyone with any ideas who could through in some info on this i'd really appreciate it.
Cen [rOB]

a new cpu (now only a XP 1800+) took me one step ahead: windows xp is now coming up with a message (white on black) saying that the system tried starting unsuccessfully last time. then there is a choice how to boot now. but even if i choose "safe mode", the pc is booting again...
also, i cant get the floppy to work. in bios, the mobo says, its an 1,44 flopp (correct) but i dont get it in the boot order or boot menu.
so i cant install windows new, because raid-drivers are on the boot disk X(
another hard disk with installed windows xp also comes up the the scrren mentioned above and then hangs with a cursor blinking in the left top cursor of the screen.
i tried another graphic-card: an old "Interactive 3dfx Magix Twin Power": the pc beeps once long an then 3 times short on power on but keeps on booting.
the result is the same as above (pc hangs).
very, very strange

KT3 Ultra2-R no boot/no beep D-Bracket 1&2 Red

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The system ran well for 4 weeks without any crashes. Because i had the noisy AMD-boxed CPU-cooler, i installed a very silent noiseblocker-CPU-cooler. The first power-on bootet up to initialization of raid-controller an then the system hang.
The next boot, nothing happened: black screen, no beep, nothing. Only the fans are running. I reassembled the hole system x-times now, all with the same result.
I even changed the mobo to a brand new one -> same problem. I changed PSU to a 420 W -> same problem.
The D-Bracket says: 1 & 2 red, 3 & 4 green ("Initializing Hard Drive Controller"). The same result when i deattach everything from the board except PSU (yes: everything). No beep at all...
How can a brand new mobo and a brand new PSU with nothing else attached the same problem as the first mobo with my old PSU?
I have not changed the CPU or Ram yet, but how can the problem be there, when the error occurs when these parts are not attached.
What should the D-Bracket show, when I power on an empty mobo with PSU?
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a new cpu (now only a XP 1800+) took me one step ahead: windows xp is now coming up with a message (white on black) saying that the system tried starting unsuccessfully last time. then there is a choice how to boot now. but even if i choose "safe mode", the pc is booting again...
also, i cant get the floppy to work. in bios, the mobo says, its an 1,44 flopp (correct) but i dont get it in the boot order or boot menu.
so i cant install windows new, because raid-drivers are on the boot disk X(
another hard disk with installed windows xp also comes up the the scrren mentioned above and then hangs with a cursor blinking in the left top cursor of the screen.
i tried another graphic-card: an old "Interactive 3dfx Magix Twin Power": the pc beeps once long an then 3 times short on power on but keeps on booting.
the result is the same as above (pc hangs).
very, very strange

MSI KT3 Ultra2-BR

Geachte heer, mevrouw,
Jullie hebben in de beginpagina staan dat er een new release is (in juli) van de MSI KT3 Ultra2.
Deze is echter in drie versies verkrijgbaar.
De versies Ultra2 en Ultra2-R zijn al te koop.
Wanneer komt de Ultra2-BR te koop te staan en waar kan ik hem als eerste bestellen. Ik zit er al een paar weken op te wachten.
Ik hoop dat jullie me spoedig mogelijk antwoord kunnen geven.
Met vriendelijke groet,
Ramon

Hi,
Sorry I don't understand.... :( What language is that?
Let me guess, are you asking for different versions of motherboard model for KT3 Ultra 2 ? Ultra2-BR comes with Bluetooth transceiver and key, while Ultra2-R doesn't have Bluetooth bundled and Ultra2 doesn't have RAID either....
:D :D :D I feel like shooting in the dark.... :D :D :D

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