KT3 Ultra2, XP2200+ lock up problems.

    Hello there, I am having a lock up problem with my PC.
System Info;
MSI KT3 Ultra2 (6380E)  (Non RAID)
Athlon XP 2200+ (.013 micron TB)
Enermax 350 Watt PS
Samsung PC2700 DDR (512MB)
Thermaltake Volcano 7 CPU cooler
Nvidia Riva TNT2 Ultra
And I am running Windows 2000 PRO.
Bios shows to be version 1 (I don't know how to check the version correctly) FSB is set to 133mhz. The PC runns stabile when set to 100mhx FSB, but when swithed back to 133, It locks while trying to run programs such as Norton AV 2003 , or SETI@home. Have not tried gaming yet do to this problem. Note too that in WIndows system info, processor shows to be AMD 1800+. Any advice would be greatly appriciated!! Thanks!!        Jeepin_247 ;(

Those temps are definitly getting high.  I can loop 3dmark for an hour and still only get up to about 43 c.  If I understand you correctly you are running your cooler without and gease or thermal pad between your cpu die and cooler.  That can definitly cause problems with heat transfer.  I imagine your temperatures are continuing to rise a little causing lock ups.  Apply some grease when you get it and your temps should drop a bit.  A lot of people swear by artic silver.  I am just using the standard gease that came with my cooler and it is working fine.  I would probally use the artic silver if I started overclocking though.
There is a good sticky for bios settings in the MSI section at http://www.amdforums.com  There sight is down right now so I can't provide the link.  The setting are for the KT3-aru but they are good for the KT3 Ultra2.
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    ...after adding one BIOS setting after another I narrowed the problem down to the "CPU Fast Command (decode)" Function...if set to Ultra it does not boot-up when running 166 MHz FSB, it does not even let me into BIOS. I have to clear CMOS and restart from scratch again...
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    Is this normal and expectable with a Barton 3000+ running at the native 166 MHz FSB or not ?
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    Originally posted by larryj
    I bought a stick from auib which I will never do again said it was 2700 turned out ot be 2100 which is prob why it come with  a free heatsink caused all kinds of probs for me so I ordered Crucial ram & all is well.  http://www.crucial.com if you have another ddr system try it in there but it prob is bad ram.
    Could you prove it was 2100? If so, I would have taken it back and shoved it up........ Sorry, got carried away. I would have dobbed the retailer in to the authorities for misrepresentation or fraud.

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