KT4 Ultra and SATA

I have a KT4 Ultra that supports SATA Raid and Im looking at getting a new HDD. CAn I run my old PATA HDD with a SATA HDD without it being in raid format or do the disk have to be in a raid format.

Hey guys, how about this:
MSI KT4 Ultra SR, Win2000, PDC 20376 Promise Serial ATA chip on board. WD 40gig IDE hd as primary on IDE 1. Attached a Maxtor 120gig SATA to the Serial ATA 1 connector. While booting did NOT setup an array. Windows 2000 in Disk Management under Device Manager/Disk Drives has now two folders, one for the WD and one that says SCSI Disk Device. It's also also recognized under System Information/Components/Storage as SCSI controlled by the Fast Track 376 controller. Is this a proper way to setup the serial Maxtor as an extra single drive in the system attached to the Serial interface? Is this even possbile? My problem is that while the drive is recognized as a SCSI disk device as described above, it is NOT seen under Disk Management as a new unformatted drive with a new letter. Assuming the above setup is correct, how do I format the drive so Windows can use it? Any help will be greatly appreciated, thank you.

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KT4 Ultra and FastTrak 376 issues.

I recently purchased a KT4 Ultra and installed it on me computer. Everythings fine, it boots and the bios recognises my IDE devices. It won't allow me to enter the bios though and it just sits there with the screen displaying this.
FastTrak 376 (tm) BIOS Version 1.00.0.18
(copyright info)
Scanning IDE drives
any help would be greatly appreciated
thx alot )

NEVER HAPPENED TO ME. TRY DISCONNECTING ALL IDE DEVICES, CLEAR THE CMOS AND PRESS DEL BEFORE THE PROMISE BIOS LOADS.
MAYBE YOU'LL GET INSIDE TO DEACTIVATE IT FROM LOADING AT INTEGRATED PERIPHERALS - ONBOARD PCI CONTROLLER - SEARIAL ATA CONTROLLER.
DO YOU HAVE AN SATA HDD? YOU COULD USE ONE FOR TRYING TO SETUP AN ARRAY IN THE PROMISE BIOS (BY PRESSING CTRL+F AND THEN CHOOSE THE AUTO CONFIGURATION). AFTER THAT MAYBE YOU CAN ENTER THE BIOS.
YOU CAN ALSO TRY TO FIND AN MODDED BIOS FOR THE KT4-ULTRA THAT DOES NOT LOAD THE PROMISE SATA BIOS BY DEFAULT.

MSI KT4 ultra and AMD ATHLON 2600+ and Corsair 512Mb 3200

Hello,
i've bought a: MSI KT4 ULTRA and a AMD ATHLON 2600+
Today, i've updated the bios to the version 1.3! So: no problem to reboot after the process complete.
BUT, now i can't set the CPU at 2.16Ghz (280Mhz clock) because if i set the clock up to 100Mhz it doesn't reboot anymore! the motherboard detect the frequency @ 1250 Mhz :(((
Please: HELP ME
(sorry for the grammar and / the english) but i'm a french guy.

Hi,
I had the same issues, see the thread:
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/e_service/forum/viewindex.php?threadid=11717&boardid=13&styleid=1
Essentially I had to set (in the BIOS) the FSB to 166 and left the Multiplier on auto. This ment the processor was reported properly as 2600+, but the memory will only run at 333 MHz... Yeah I think I wasted the money on getting the latest and greatest memory too....
Had me worried for a while, I though my supplier had palmed a bad chip off on me.... It just that the board can't do the highest speed chips and the highest speed memory at the same time (it states that that is unsupported in the manual...)
hope the helps...

KT4 ULTRA FISR SATA Problem

I really need some help here. I have a KT4 Ultra board with SATA Interface and a brand new Seagate Barracuda 120 GB. On to the problem .. when i booted up the computer for the first time, it detected my disc. After that .. i was testing som different settings in the BIOS .. and had to clear the CMOS Now .. it won´t detect the drive at all. It says something about "No drive attached to the FastTrak controller. Bios not installed/loaded" I have installed all drivers and stuff that came with the board but no luck. Is the driver loaded into the BIOS from the beginning or? How do i get the d*amn board to detect it again? I can´t even enter the bios setup (for the SATA controller.. ctrl+f) So .. i can´t really do .
Help!

It says jumper (Factory only) so i don´t think u are supposed to jumper it. It´s master by default. At least that´s what seagate claims =) Or?

MSI KT4-ULTRA & WD SATA RAPTOR

I have this KT4-Ultra with Promise SATA controller onboard and until now I did not know if it works well.
Today i've bought the SATA hdd from WesternDigital - the Raptor, and i'm very unsatisfied by the performance.
I've got only 58mbps burst speed and 48mbps medium on HD Tach. And i know that this is not ok. It should be far better I've readed all the reviews.
The drive is conected in a 1+0 Stripe Array. I'm using the latest driver for the controller. I had trouble before with this mainboard [thread] and i think it has something to do with the BIOS.
This i found it to be iritating - the HDD cost a lot more than the mainboard(wich is expensive too). I still think that the mainboard is the problem.

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Originally posted by wonkanoby Meseriashu
you have got it jumperless not master
There are no master or slave or cable select settings on SATA drives as there can be only one SATA drive per cable/channel. The jumpers on the Raptor set the power management mode of the drive on spinup.
http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_sid=PtNY5SHg&p_lva=&p_faqid=958&p_created=1050530240&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9ncmlkc29ydD0mcF9yb3dfY250PTImcF9zZWFyY2hfdGV4dD1qdW1wZXImcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT00JnBfcHJvZF9sdmwxPTk1JnBfcHJvZF9sdmwyPX5hbnl_JnBfY2F0X2x2bDE9fmFueX4mcF9zb3J0X2J5PWRmbHQmcF9wYWdlPTE*&p_li=

KT4 Ultra and XP2000 Crashes at 133fsb

My system runs fine at 100fsb with clock multiplier set to 12.5 giving me 1250 Mhz, but when I set my FSB 133 the system crashes. I've tried setting it with the fuzzy logic and in the bios. Each time it resulted in a black screen and I had to short the cmos to get it back.
Also How do you add the system info tag?
KT4 Ultra MS-6590
IBM 60 GB 7200 HD
AMD XP2000 model 6
Thermotake Heavyduty heatsink and fan
256 MB PC2700 Micron
GeForce4 440 64MB video card
L&C PSU Model LC-A350ATX
- 350 MAX
- +5 and +3.3 V Combined 190 watt

I have exactly the same problems here, system runs ok at 100fsb, but it isn't on 133.
I was thinking of a cooling problem already so this is clear to me now.
However one problem remains and that concerns the RAID option! Believe me or not, but currently this option is faded out in the BIOS (1.3) and therefore no bootable devices can be discovered also setting the option "Try other bootable devices" to YES does not work. If I start messings with the CMOS settings the RAID option might return after saving the adjustments and rebooting. While booting up the Fastrak376 is either present or gone.
Currently I have just a Matrox G400 MAX in the AGP slot and none of my PCI devices are used. Further two IDE devices (Maxtor 80gig DX740-L) are hooked up, one to SATA (with converter) and the other to PATA so it shouldn't be an IRQ issue.
I already cleared the CMOS using the jumpers and switching " on " the machine, did a NVRAM clearance and that didn't work either. Setting Plug and Play OS to DISABLED worked out once but after making some adjustments to the BIOS settings the RAID disappeared ever since ..
However I was able to install Windows XP once and as you probably can figure it took me two days getting the RAID option to work, apparently another BUG in the KT4? ?(
Unfortunately now I am stuck since no RAID for the time being ... Hope one can help since once again MSI does not respond to my emails... ... :O

KT4 ultra and Randeon 8500 stability problem.

This is my pc:
Msi Kt4 Ultra (6590)
Athlon Xp 2000+
512 mb ddr pc 2700
Ati Radeon 8500 Ret.
maxtor diamondplus 8 80gb
Pioneer DVD 16x slot-in
Asus ISDN Adapter internal
Skystar 2 DVB sat Adapter
Power Supply 300 W 5v - 22 A
3,3V - 16 A
Ok, i see your FAQ and i know that my power Supply is too small in fact under games my system sometimes freeze, but there's another problem, sometimes i see a white jolt on my monitor ?( , can this problem depend on too small powersupply ??
my monitor and my video card is ok under another system works great !!!
Bye

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Originally posted by wonkanoby
you can have max on only one voltage at a time
True, IF the specs are presented that way. Some obviously are, some obviously are not, and others can't even be deduced with a decent degree of certainty. It definately does not apply to power supplies such as Antec's truepower models however, as +3.3 is not derived from +5, where the load of one doesn't effect on the other.
What I'm saying is that there are no standards that PSU manufacturer's stick to when presenting their specs. Its buyer beware. Without knowing the simultaneous load conditions they used, third party calculations are no more than educated guesses based on assumptions, and we both did that.

Problem with KT4 Ultra and XP 2700

First excuse my bad english (i'm from Germany)!!
I have a heavy problem with my KT4 Ultra.
First my system:
AMD Athlon XP 2700
Mainboard: MSI KT4 Ultra (MS-6590) Bios vers. 1.1
MSI Geforce 4 Ti 4200 64 Mb
512 Mb DDR Ram Apacer Technology 512 MB 16x(32mx8)DDR-SDRAM PC2700U-2533-700(CL2.5 upto 167MHz)(CL2 upto 133MHz
Sound : Onboard
GlobalWIN CAK38 II Kupfer
Powersupply: Levicom 420W
Win XP SP1
Now the problen:
When i turn the FSB in the Bios up to 166MHz
the system crashes on Windows startupscreen!!
I've turned the FSP clock down to 164 MHz and Windows starts.But when i runned 3DMark2001 it crashes back to desktop !!
Then i turned the FSB clock down to 159 MHz and the system runns stabile!!
Now what i've already tried:
Turned down Ram timings and frequency (same prob.)
No heatproblem (CPU at 118.f)
Had the same system exapt an XP1800 instead an XP2700 and no problems!!
Called the MSI hotline (Germany) and they told me to type the FSB manually in the Bios (insted of numblock +and -). ?(
Still the same problem !! ;(
Has anyone the same problem as i ???
THX !!

Hi,
I would try other ram....
Or start from BIOS default settings and only change CPU-FSB....
See what happens...

KT4 Ultra and Bluetooth?

Could someone please explain how I can connect a bluetooth capable mobile/PDA to this supposedly bluetooth enabled mobo?
Now, as far as I can see, nowhere is it explained how I connect the mobo to a bt device after I have attached the usb2.0/bt bracket. There's a bt connector on the bracket. Connector? I thought bt was wireless! What's the connector for? ?(
Does this mean I would still have to buy the MS6967 Bluetooth USB adapter to make use of its bt "capabilities"?

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Originally posted by VEJ
I just bought the plain KT4 Ultra (MS-6590).
It is also bluetooth ready.
This means there is an internal connector JBT2 (Quik User's Guide version 1.0).
This is for the Bluetooth Transceiving Key (MS-6967)
connected to this is the antenna.
Hi VEJ, thank you for your feedback.
I believe your motherboard is KT4 Ultra-B.
But I need further confirmation with you,
Are you receiving MS-6968, as shown in the photo above -- antenna + riser card slot inside your PC?
or
MS-6967, the grey color Bluetooth USB dongle plugged to any USB port?
or both MS-6968 AND MS-6967?
Thank you.

KT4 Ultra and DDR400 memeory

With the KT4 Ultra do you have to use the DDR400 ram listed at this link:
http://www.msicomputer.com/pressrelease/kt400.asp
Or is it just recommended types?

those are the ones msi tested and found to work,so i suggest sticking to it unless you know some one else has had success with another type

KT4 Ultra and XP 2400 Temp

Hi,
when I first installed my xp 2400 on my KT4 ultra mobo my temps were between 32c and max of 38c. Now that it's been working for a while my temp stays between 47c and 51c. Is that too hot? What is too hot? What else can I do to lower my temps?
I have the AMD approved heatsink listed in my specs below. I am using Artic Silver II. Am I going to have to reapply this every month or so?
Any suggestions would be great.
Thanks in advance

I don't believe those temps are too high but it is curious that they are higher than before.
Did you follow all the instructions when you applied the Arctic Silver?
Also, I would definitely open up the case and give it a very thorough cleaning. Especially between the fins of the HSF.
I do know with mine, two front and one rear case fan, that it gets dusty as heck in about 4 weeks!! And we use an electronic air cleaner on the furnace. After about a month, I pick up two cans of air and clean it out very well (with some left over).
Do you have any case fans? If you do, clean them as well. If you don't, it may be a good idea to add them front (air in) and rear (air out).
Dale

KT4 Ultra and WD Hard Drive

I have just purchased a KT4 Ultra (MS 6590) motherboard and have a real problem.
I also have a Western Digital Hard Drive (WD100JB)
Unfortunatly there appears no way that this board (or its BIOS) will accept this drive.
As soon as I get to POST it fails to recognise the drive when connected properly with all jumpers in the correct positions.
So I then dissconnected all other drives and just set it to Master on IDE 1 and it did detect it but then said it was incompatable and failed to boot up.
I was unable to boot up at all even setting the BIOS to Default.
I placed this drive back in my other PC and it booted first time.
Whats the problem ...? any ideas?
Thanks
Pete

Yeh Ive's tried all these things including removing the BIOS battery
The problem I have with this board is that it will not use any Hard Drive !.
What hapens is that the Drive is detected OK in the BIOS.
It then tries to go to POST and BOOT and returns an Error saying "Atapi incompatable HD" !
I have tried different drives and still get the same result !.
I have changed the cables and also tried setting the drive to “Master” with no other drives on the computer but it still comes up with the "Atapi incompatable HD " ! Error
I think there must be a BIOS problem not loading drivers for ATAPI devices or something like that'Any Ideas?
This board is brand new straight out of the box?

KT4 Ultra and PC3200 speed detect problem

Hi all,
I am new to the forum, having just bought a KT4 Ultra for my new system. It features the following components:
KT4 Ultra (sorry not sure of model number as I'm posting from work, but I checked for BIOS updates and there's only one which looks like a USB2 compatibility fix)
1 stick of 512Mb PC3200 memory
AMD 2700XP+ (333FSB) CPU
ATI Radeon 9000 128Mb (this will do until DX9 cards available
Intel 100 Pro network card for my ADSL hub (my KT4 did not come with onboard network socket)
350W power supply
Win2K Pro SP3
I have two problems. One is that the machine won't ever shutdown - it always reboots. Having done a search of this forum, I will check the "Wake on LAN" settings in the BIOS as of course, plugged into an ADSL router, the LAN+WAN is constantly live... so I'm hoping that will be fixed later today....
But, the second problem is one of performance - in that with the initial auto detect settings, the BIOS found a 1500+ CPU and 400Mhz memory. When I manually change the bus speed to 166, the CPU is recognised correctly as a 2700, but the memory dropped down to 333Mhz speed. If I then disable the autodetect for the memory and manualyl set 400Mhz and CAS2 speed, I can't even get to the BIOS screen on bootup. I get 4 or 5 short beeps, nothing on the display and need to short pins 2+3 of JCAT1 to reset to factory defaults.
Any idea how I can get my PC to boot with the correct speed memory (ie PC3200@400)?
Thanks for any tips,
Mike.

Hi
I have the same problem when I set FSB to 200Mhz - DDR to 400Mhz and on boot screen i always see DDR 333.
I make a test and when I use 152Mhz FSB (or up) DDR Always is 333Mhz no maters than in Bios is saved DDR400.
My system is
t-bred 1700+ (133x10.5) fabrique unlocked
MSK kt4 ultra (6590)
bios v1.1
256mb ddr 400 samsung c3
msi g4200td 128mb
60gb maxtor diamond max
I make some tests
CPU on 200Mhz FSB x 8.5 multiplier, or 8 or 7.5 or 7 (1.575V)
MEM always show DDR333
WHY ?
It is possible to run FSB/MEM sincrhony on 200Mhz ?
I also make a mem tests with Sandra 2003 when
I use 200Fsb x 8.5 and Bios DDR 333 and
200Fsb x 8.5 and Bios DDR 400
the results is the same .
I'm sure that On boot Screen DDR information is right.
and always DDR is on 333 mhz wneh FSB is more than 152mhz No mather what you set in Bios ( 266 or 333 or 400)
And other strange thing is:
with my previous locked XP 1600+ (10.5 x 133) I can run on 166FSB / MEM with this DDR (samsung) on max aggressive settings 2.5 2-5-2 1 Ultra
now with my new CPU i can't run on 166FSB less tnah 3 3-6-3 2 Normal ?
Thanks in advance.

KT4 Ultra and new Serial ATA drive

Hi there
I've got a WinXP machine with a KT4 ultra, 2 regular IDE hard drives, a CD write and DVD (all working fine).
Yesterday I bought a Serial ATA DiamondMax Plus9 160Gb to use as a 3rd drive. I don't want it to use RAID, I just want it as an additional drive available to windows.
I fitted the drive last night, but when the BIOS runs through the drives at the start it didn't show up. I did however get the RAID utility come up on the screen, and by pressing Ctrl-F it allowed me to create a RAID array (which I didn't).
When I got into windows the drive couldn't be seen, running Maxblaster found a SCSI drive but thought it was 0 bytes capacity.
Can anyone tell me if what I want to do is even possible?
And if so, how do it do it?
Thanks in advance
Rich

Hi Sharp, thanks for the info.
I have the promise drivers installed, so there really shouldn't be a problem there.
Having scanned through a load of other messages on here, updating the BIOS has been recommended.
I was a bit wary of doing this as I have a history of messing up machines, what are other's experiences with upgrading the BIOS?
Thanks again
Rich

KT4 Ultra and Radeon 9700 Pro

Ok I have a question. So it seems there is an issue with this particular card and the KT4 Ultra. So what in the $#%@ brand and model 8x agp card did MSI use to test the 8x function of this board? I thought the 9700 pro was the only 8x card out right now? If its not why wasn't it tested by them??? I hope this will be fixed by a bios update, but not for me, for the others out there, as for me, I am taking this back and I'm getting an Epox board, I heard Asus has similair problems but Epox 8x board works. Very sad that I had to spend hours trying to figure this out and it wasn't even my error.

ATI has already stated (about 2 weeks ago) that a problem does exist with the Radeon 9700 and certain 8x AGP boards. You can RMA the board and it will either be replaced or the BIOS will be flashed at no charge to you. Go to http://www.ati.com and send them an email.

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