KT4 Ultra CPU Upgrade Question

I am trying to upgrade my CPU from a 2100 XP to a 2800 XP on my KT4 Ultra and am running into trouble. I was under the impression that all I had to do was turn up the FSB frequency in CMOS and everything would be OK howerver this doesn't appear to be the case. Currently the FSB Freq. is set to 100 and I can get it above 104 or the system will not POST. Has anyone out there put a 2800 with the latest BIOS in a KT4? What setting need to be changed and what values should be used in CMOS??
Help please!!!!

set to 166

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Here is the Manual, which you will need:
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Your motherboard has the GL40 chipset and Celeron 900 processor and the GL40 is designed to only be used with Celeron processors. There is one compatible dual core Celeron processor, the T3500 as described here:
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Mobile-Celeron-Dual-Core-T3500-SLGJV-2-1GHz-800MHz-1MB-Socket-P-CPU-La...
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