KT4 Ultra (MS-6590) no display when boots

I recently went out and bought a KT4 Ultra (ms-6590) and when i installed my new ATI radeon 9500 pro i get no display when booting. So i then installed my older Nvidia TNT2 M64 32mb card and i still get no display. my system has not sucessfully booted yet with this board and it is my first time using it. and i thought it might be trying to load from the onboard video but come to find it there is none. What is wrong?
KT4 Ultra (MS-6590)
1gb PC2100 ram
ATI radeon 950 pro
16x cdrw
16x dvd rom
400w PS

It might be possible it is a bad AGP slot. Especially if two different cards and no difference.
Is everything else booting? I mean can you tell if the system is proceeding through POST?
It sounds like you just went to a store and bought this board? Can you attempt a return and try another?

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KT4 Ultra MS-6590 - Win XP Home boots with 2GB DDR333 installed but not 3GB

Spec...
KT4 Ultra MS-6590
AMD Athlon XP 3000+ (FSB set to 166MHz in BIOS)
BIOS MS-6590v1.4
Win XP Home 2002, SP3
Problem...
Previously, had 768MB RAM installed, and XP strangely identified CPU as a 2200+.
Recently upgraded the RAM to 3GB DDR333 (3 sticks of 1GB 184-pin unbuff DIMM 128MX64 DDR PC2700), and changed BIOS settings for CPU and DRAM.
In the DOS boot screen, Win XP progress indicator fills completely from left to right, then stops with a half-blinking cursor in the top left of the screen.
Removed 1GB stick and Win XP successfully loaded, also now recognising the Athlon XP 3000+, and running a heck of a lot faster.
Tried adding the /3GB switch to the boot.ini file, which didn't do anything, and after reading more forum advice, guessed this might be irrelevant. I don't think this is a 4GT and PAE issue, as I'm not trying to install above 4GB (if I've correctly understood).
Also, forum advice (various sites) conflicts on whether Win XP 32-bit is limited to 2GB or 4GB, and I can't find any workarounds for my current setup.
Any ideas?

Another test I've done is to enable boot logging with Win XP. This appends command lines to the file 'ntbtlog' in the windows directory, which mainly shows drivers being loaded as Win XP is launched. The log is normally date and time-stamped for every boot-logging session.
When all 3 sticks are installed, I cold boot, then press F8 and select 'enable boot logging' from the options menu. This is what appears on the screen as the system, attempts to load Win XP.
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\system32\hal.dll
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\system32\KDCOM.DLL
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\system32\BOOTVID.dll
Loaded driver ACPI.sys
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\WMILIB.SYS
Loaded driver pci.sys
Loaded driver isapnp.sys
Loaded driver viaide.sys
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\PCIIDEX.SYS
Loaded driver MountMgr.sys
Loaded driver ftdisk.sys
Loaded driver PartMgr.sys
Loaded driver VolSnap.sys
Loaded driver atapi.sys
Loaded driver disk.sys
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\CLASSPNP.SYS
Loaded driver fltmgr.sys
Loaded driver sr.sys
Loaded driver PxHelp20.sys
Loaded driver KSecDD.sys
Loaded driver Ntfs.sys
Loaded driver NDIS.sys
Loaded driver Mup.sys
Loaded driver BTHidMgr.sys
Then the process freezes and a solid white block appears in the top-left of the screen, with the top-right corner of the block blinking.
At this point, I turn off the PC using the main power switch, then remove the 3rd memory stick. After booting up again, with only 2 sticks installed, opening the text file 'ntbtlog' reveals that this boot event wasn't logged.
So, I reboot Win XP with only the 2 sticks installed, and select 'enable boot logging'. This time, the above list of loaded drivers is shown in the text file, plus a whole lot more. The potentially interesting observation is the next in the list after "Loaded driver BTHidMgr.sys" which is "Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\amdk7.sys".
'amdk7.sys' is a driver file which seems to come with one of the Win XP Service Packs, and which "is necessary to enable Windows XP support for AMD PowerNow! technology on computers that use a mobile Athlon 4 or mobile Duron processor." http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306458
Various other posts refer to it in relation to AMD Athlon XP 3000+ Mobile, whereas mine is a 3000+ in a desktop. Also, if 'amdk7.sys' isn't available, then Win XP will load the generic driver 'processr.sys'. In fact, my 'ntbtlog' includes the entry "Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\processr.sys" which would make sense.
However, my curiosity is that with the 3 sticks installed, Win XP fails to continue loading when reaching 'amdk7.sys' in the driver list.
Another test I did was to change the power management settings in the BIOS.
"IPCA Function: This item is to activate the ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power
Management Interface) function. If your operating system is ACPI-aware, such
as Windows 98SE/2000/ME, select Yes. Available options: Yes, No."
This was normally set to Yes. When I set it to No and rebooted with 3 sticks installed, instead of a half-blinking white block (as described above), the screen went black and then the system rebooted itself...
The plot thickens!...
Maybe there's a clear explanation for this - however, I'm wary of doing something to the 'amdk7.sys' driver file (whether removing or disabling it somehow) in case it prevents Win XP from launching with just my 2 sticks installed. I'd guess there are precautions, but need further info on whether this is relevant, and what the implications might be.

KT4 Ultra MS-6590 and XP-Install problems

hi,
yesterday i got my KT4 Ultra (MS-6590) motherboard with XP2700+ and 1x512MB PC333.
I tried to installed on my 80GB HDD (samsung) windows XP Pro.
But i cant. i get often an error when the first files are copied (after CD-boot): " File xxxxx is damaged. istall is stopped"
or i get a blue screen IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
i deactiveted in Bios EVERYTHING what has to do with caching.
then install runs (i must wait many houres :O ) and after the final reboot i had the welcome screen and after a few minutes a get the system beep and a reboot.
why?
why can i not install my XP like other people..
what is the problem?
i dont made a bios update yet.
Please help... THANKS

Thank you for you help
i searched on the german MSI Homepage http://www.msi-computer.de for the BIOS update (i am german ) and i only find version 1.2.
should it work with this version? or is the bug fixed only in 1.3?
where can i download version 1.3 (compatible with german boards too or is there no different?)
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MSI KT4 Ultra (ms-6590) error's

Hi all,
recently purchased the KT4 ultra, no probs installing Windows XP or with the SP1.... installed Office XP Professional fine and all seemed well for over a week. then the following....
1. Drives started to drop from DMA to PIO mode, uninstalled and re-detected the ide controller to get them back on DMA.
2. USBUHCI.SYS BSOD's when installing software.
3. I/O errors when installing from cd's / copying large files.
4. CRC errors when installing from cd's / copying from large files.
5. "Corrupt Media", "Corrupt Installation Files" when installing cd's.
System Specs....
Antec AMD Approved PSU (350watt)
KT4 Ultra (MS-6590) (1.1 bios, not flashed)
Athlon XP 2200+
Coolermaster LLC-H61 Silent Heat Pipe HS/Fan
512Mb (2 x 256mb) Crucial PC2700 DDR (as recommended)
IBM GXP75 30Gb Deskstar
Software Specs...
Windows XP (patched with SP1)
VIA 4.43 4 in 1 (as off MSI CD)
USB Patch from MSI Website
1.10 filter patch off VIA site
I have posted on ViaArena as well and there are a more people there with the same or similar problems.
Regards
Rob

Hi gruberstuber,
It sounds horribly like you're IBM Deskstar may be living up to it's more threatening nickname of DeathStar. These HDDs have a pretty awful history for reliability and from the symptoms you describe, I would be feeling pretty nervous about continuing with it.
Do you have access to another known good HDD at all, preferably from Western Digital or Maxtor? If you do, it would be worth substituting your IBM for one of these and giving that a go. Might work wonders.
It's not as likely, but it's possible that your PSU is rated slightly to small for the Graphics Card you're using. The GF4 4600 is notoriously power hungry and it is possible that this could be drawing your main voltages down to below -5% of the nominal voltage, this can cause you all sorts of weird problems. As a guide, you can't really tell if a PSU is holding up OK under load conditions by checking the voltages when the system is unloaded, all PSU's will give you terrific voltages in that situation.
I would go up to at least a 400W good quality PSU from either Antec or Enermax to be absolutely sure that the GF4 4600 is being catered for.
All the best,
Dimal.

No display when boot from DVD

NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra
30" Cinema HD Display
When I attempt to boot from DVD to run the Hardware Test, the display does not light up. The monitor's power light is on but the display is black.
What might cause this? How can I work around it?
Dual G5 2.7 GHz Mac OS X (10.4.7) 4 GB RAM

Ah well, as is often the case, shortly after I posted the question the situation changed...
I tried booting from the DVD one more time. This time I left the DVD in the machine and used "Restart" instead of a cold restart. It booted fine. Yeah! I guess the monitor stayed in sync or something.
So the Hardware Test was run, terminated normally and reported no errors. Which is good news.

MSI KT4 ULTRA MS-6590

I have this motherboard: MSI KT4 ULTRA MS-6590 sempron and I have already bought the new CPU SEMPRON (AMD Sempron 2400+). I want to know if my motherboard is compatible with new CPU.
Thank you
Sorry for my English, but I'm Italian.

Hi
Not according to http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_cpu_support_detail.php?UID=356&kind=1

KT4 Ultra (MS-6590) Please help me!

After som reading at MSI homepage i noticed that my motherboard suppurted AMD Athlon 3000+ if i flashed the BIOS.
So i did get a brand new AMD Athlon 3000+, flashed the BIOS to ver 1.4. And I changed the Frequency/Voltage to 166, and i was up and running.....for a while. Every time a start a game like FS 2004 or are working in 3-4 different programs the computer like DW, PS and Illustratoer:
1. close down one or two programs, or shuts down the game, without any warning.
2. reboot the computer without any warning.
But if i change the Frequency/Voltage to 133 the system get's stabil.
Quote
Question
What is the highest CPU that KT4 Ultra (MS-6590) can support?
Answer
It can support up to Duron 1.3GHz & XP3000+ CPU
Refer to http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_cpu_support_detail.php?UID=356&NAME=MS-6590
Question
Why KT4 Ultra (MS-6590) cannot detect my AMD XP 3000+ (FSB 333) CPU properly?
Answer
FSB clock by default is 100, make sure that BIOS setup-->Frequency/Voltage Control-->CPU FSB clock set as 166
What can i do with this problem?
Computer specs:
Motherboard: MSI KT4 Ultra (MS-6590) Bios ver. 1.4
Motherboard Chipset: VIA VT8377 Apollo KT400
System Memory: 1024 MB (PC 2700 DDR SDRAM)
VGA Card: GeForce FX 5900 Ultra (256 MB)
Sound Card: Creative SB Live! Player 1024
Power supply: BeQuiet Silent 450 W
Disk drive 1: Western Digital 70 GB
Disk drive 2: IBM 60GB

Effect: +3,3V: +5V: +12V: -5V: -12V: +5Vsb:
BQT P4 400W - SW1.3, ATX 450 Watt 28A 45A 22A 1.0A 0.8A 2.5A
PS
I had the same problem with a old Aopen PSU with 230W, this problem i have is one of the reason that i have a brand new PSU as well.

KT4 Ultra (MS-6590) and Ati Radeon 8500

Hello. First of all excuse me for my english, but I'm italian
After upgrading from 1.2 to 1.3 bios I had visualization errors in Windows XP (vertical black lines, font corruptions, ecc), so I decided to downgrade bios to version 1.2. Now MSI released 1.4 bios and I upgraded to this new version with the hope they had solved these problems, but they hadn't. Then I tried to disable AGP Fast Write and now Windows looks fine even if sometimes there are some black screens for few milliseconds during gaming.
There is someone that have my same problems? Any suggestion? I don't want to leave 1.2 bios forever
Thanks for replies.
MSI KT4 Ultra (MS-6590) Bios 1.4
AMD Athlon XP 2100+ .13 micron
512Mb DDR Geil @ 333MHz
ATI Radeon 8500 BBA Retail
Microsoft Windows XP Pro SP1
Latest VIA 4in1
Latest ATI Catalyst

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AthlonXP 1800+ (Palomino 1.53 GHz)
512MB DDR 333MHz
ManLi ATI Radeon 8500 128MB
Maxtor 80GB ATA133
AverTV Studio (model 203)
I have the newest BIOS for my RADEON, but it doesn't work! ;(
Why??? ?(
I don't want FastWrite OFF forever! X(
ManLi ATI Radeon 8500 128MB
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KT4 Ultra (MS-6590) very slow boot

i got a strange one here:
i replaced my MSI K7T Turbo2 with a KT4 Ultra. Since i got the new board installed (the KT4 Ultra) the machine needs very long until it reads mbr of the disk. what i exactly mean is, post boot goes with normal speed. all settings (FSB speed, DDR speed, CPU speed) are correct. after post boot, when it should start to load windows from the disk, it takes > 1 minute until the boot screen of windows shows up. after windows could boot, i don't have any problems anymore (speed rocks). i did not have this problem with the K7T Turbo2 board and except memory i still use the same components:
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MSI G4Ti4200-TD(MS-8870)
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Logitech Mousman (dual optical) USB
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thanks sidderz

thanks for the hints,
at the stage where boot is delayed so bad, HD access has not even been happened. the OS did not even start to load. so i don't believe the OS has anything to do with it. (except msi found a way to load the OS without read access to the drives )
like i said, right after post boot after floppy seek (my boot order: floppy, cdrom, scsi id 0) the machine just stops (for me it looks like bios is waiting for an answer and then times out) with a black monitor (but signal seems to be still there cause the monitor doesn't go to stand-by). first i thought about an IRQ conflict, but i took care to not use pci slots with shared IRQ's. when the computer starts to read from the disks, boot process is fast as expected. but until the system even starts to boot the os from the disks (read access to mbr on disks), more than one minute just nothing happens, not even disk access. i also checked if the computer is just frozen, but this was not the case, at least the keyboard was not frozen (numlock/capslock and reboot with ctrl+alt+del still worked)
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UNMOUNTABLE_BOOT_VOLUME KT4 Ultra MS-6590

I have been get this UNMOUNTABLE_BOOT_VOLUME error all day. I been try to install XP Pro but it alway does this after I begin the install progress.
I have done fdisk, Partition Magic format, windows install format, and format but I keep get this error. I thought that it was was the hard drive but I try install XP on my ASUS K7V mobo and it work without a prob.
The reason I reinstall is to turn off the APIC and APCI so I can stop the infinite loop error I been getting. I have restore the default setting and still doesn't work.
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CPU: 2200+ XP
Motherboard: KT4 Ultra-SR
RAM Slot-1: Kingston 333 512 MB CL 2.5
RAM Slot-2: None
RAM Slot-3: None
display card: AIW Radeon 9700
IDE-1M: Western Digital 200 GB SE 8MB
IDE-1S: None
IDE-2M: Samsung 48x-16x-48x CD-R/RW SD-616Q
IDE-2S: Samsung 16X DVD SW-248B
IDE-3: None
SER-1: None
SER-2: None
PCI-1: None
PCI-2:None
PCI-3: None
PCI-4: None
PCI-5: None
PCI-6: None
PSU: (Antec AMD Approved 350W)
BIOS revision: 1.3
Operating System: WIN XP

This had happened to me a few months ago. What had happened on my system was that the Book Sector to the hard drive had been overwritten.
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have you tried just running a repair disk with the disk first aid in disk utility well booted to the install disk cause alot of times it might find a repair a error and then the computer will be ok to boot i would try running the disk first aid befor reinstalling the OS plus if it finds no errors there is always a archive and install that you can do which saves all your documents
see this article for more details on this
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107120
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KT4 Ultra (MS-6590) USB controller issues?

Okay, here's another for you guys to ponder....
I bought a 256MB flash drive from Walmart a year or so ago, and it works great with every system I've ever pluggged it into, except my KT4 Ultra. No matter which USB port I plug it into, it's extremely slow to respond and never gets beyond Unknown device, with most times not even getting that far. In many cases it just hangs out there from the socket and looks pretty with no effect whatsoever. I eventually gave up fighting with it, figuring it to be a WallyWorld hardware incompatibility issue.
Tonight I got a 2GB flash drive from OfficeMax and was somewhat dismayed to see it had the exact same reaction to the KT4 MB. I have unistalled all the USB devices and controllers and re-installed with the most up to date drivers, and I've made sure that the USB settings in BIOS are all enabled, all to no effect.
I have several other USB devices (Mouse, keyboard, Canon Printer, Dazzle Video Creator, Wingman Formula Racing Wheel, and various external USB harddrives that all work with this system. I have also had friends bring their flashDrives over and theirs plug in and work fine. ANyone know what the heck is the problem with the ones that I buy?
here they are:
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OfficeMax SanDisk cruzer micro 2.0GB SDCZ6-2048RB

Sounds like pin 10 issue
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=102848.0 - Try disconnecting pin 10 from all usb headers on the board.

Macbook Pro will not boot on external Firewire drive. Mybook with 2 partitions containing 2 OSX images using CCC. Volumes will not display when booting but do display when the internal drive is running OSX using Startup utility.

I've reset SMC and PRAM several times. Activiatng Terminal from Recovery HD displays the following:
-bash-3.2# diskutil list
/dev/disk0
   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER
   0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *250.1 GB   disk0
   1:                        EFI                         209.7 MB   disk0s1
   2:                  Apple_HFS Macintosh HD            249.2 GB   disk0s2
   3:                 Apple_Boot Recovery HD             650.0 MB   disk0s3
/dev/disk1
   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER
   0:     Apple_partition_scheme                        *1.3 GB     disk1
   1:        Apple_partition_map                         30.7 KB    disk1s1
   2:                  Apple_HFS Mac OS X Base System    1.3 GB     disk1s2
/dev/disk2
   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER
   0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *2.0 TB     disk2
   1:                        EFI                         209.7 MB   disk2s1
   2:                  Apple_HFS MyBook1                 999.8 GB   disk2s2
   3:                  Apple_HFS MyBook2                 767.2 GB   disk2s3
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Applejack is just a command-line "front-end" for a number of different command-line tools you can use in single-user mode, and I'm not sure whether it's Lion-compatible. You can always try booting into single-user mode and executing:
/sbin/fsck -fy
That's unlikely to solve your problems, though. Since you can't boot from two different hard drives and your optical drive, that indicates there's a more serious hardware issue, or multiple hardware issues.

KT4 Ultra (MS-6590) & FSB & CD-ROM\'s

Hi All,
I have a big problem here with this motherboard and want to know if MSI know about the problem and if there is a fix for it.
Never in 5 years have I seen a problem like this !!
The problems listed below are subject to the following settings in the BIOS
CPU = 1800XP
FSB = 133
Other settings on AUTO
Hardware installed (2 setup options tried)
Setup 1
Memory = DDR266 (PC2100)
ATI AIW 7500
SB Live 5.1
linksys 10/100 network card
PCI Firewire card
Adaptec AHA-2940 SCSI Card
18GIG SCSI drive
Sony DRU500a (master / 2nd IDE port)
Ricoh MP5120A (slave / 2nd IDE port)
Setup2
Memory = DDR266 (PC2100)
ATI AIW 7500
SB Live 5.1
linksys 10/100 network card
PCI Firewire card
Seagate 40gig ATA 100 (master / 1st IDE port)
Sony DRU500a (master / 2nd IDE port)
Ricoh MP5120A (slave / 2nd IDE port)
Problems
1/ PC locks up or reboots when reading from CD-RW / DVD Recorder using DMA mode under Win 98 / Win2K / Win XP.
2/ Copy files from another PC (over network) files become corrupt.
3/ Write data to CD-R or DVD- / + R ---- DATA BECOMES CORRUPT or PC locks up / reboots while writing the data to the CD / DVD disc.
4/ Windows (any version) on boot errors appear at times.
If I set the FSB to 100 or 120 with all other settings on auto the problems listed above go away ! This is not right ! I want to use my 1800XP CPU with FSB on 133, not lower !
I have even taken out all the hardware and just left the VGA card in place along with HDs / CD-ROM / DVD Recorders get the same problem when running system with FSB @ 133, set it to 120 or 100 and all works fine !!
So, does MSI know about this ?
Will MSI fix this problem soon (like yesterday) ?
Not so happy I can tell ya ! If a fix is not made soon, I will be going back to shop with this board and asking for a different MAKE and model !

My guess is twofold, to be tried in this order:
(1) PSU--14 amps on 3.3 rail seems low, especially for a machine pretty well filled like yours. Running the ram at higher frequencies increases draw on the PSU.
(2) RAM--your symptoms are entirely congruent with bad ram--(ie, ram that although rated to run at a certain speed, actually will not. Generic DDR ram is a big offender in this case.) Running the ram successfully at only
If you've had this ram running at 133Mhz elsewhere, then the number one recommendation is to replace your PSU with something that provides more amperage per voltage rail. My Antec TruePower 430Watter provides 28 Amps on the 3.3v rail and 36 amps on the 5v rail, and separates the rails so that none will ever cannibalize from the other (so you don't need to add two rails together anymore in evaluating PSU's--you only need to do that on older PSU's in which the rails are not powered individually and separated.)
Important: buy a name-brand PSU--Not a generic. If you are still having problems then most likely it is your ram--but I have a hunch the PSU may fix you up.

KT4 Ultra (MS-6590) no display when boots

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