KT4 Ultra: problem config. raid array IDE3

I owe the MSI 6590 KT4 Ultra BSR mainboard and I have difficulties configurring the RAID array in striping mode, on the IDE3 controller.
The manual describes on page 2-18 it's possible to connect up to 2 hard drives, cdrom, 120mb fd and other devices to the IDE3 controller.
Unfortunately only one of my two MAXTOR D740X-6L (6L080J4) 80gig drives is recognized by the array.
One Maxtor hard drive is jumpered as MASTER and the other is set up as SLAVE.
When I hook up the cable to an ordinary IDE port (eg IDE1) the two drives are properly recognized.
Both drives can be formatted using the regular IDE ports, this means without any cluster errors or other errors so the drives are physically OK.
Before I wrote this post I checked the support section again to make sure I am using the latest BIOS which is 1.1. I also downgraded to 1.0, but that didn't solve my problem either.
Since I work in a computer shop now and then I had the opportunity to check two Maxtor Fireball3 30gig drives on a different MS-6590 RAID board (BIOS 1.1.) and exactly the same problem occurs: the 2nd drive won't be recognized in the ARRAY on IDE3.
Please tell me what to do to make the striping option fully work on my two IDENTICAL Maxtor hard drives since MSI support came up with a standard email, which didn't cheer me up at all. Hopefully this time they will investigate this matter since no doubt more people will experience this.

Thanks for the quick response, though it's not satisfactory for me (of course).
Actually before installing the new KT4 Ultra I owed the KT266 Pro RAID motherboard. It's true this board has two controllers for the RAID option. Nevertheless because after reading the manual of this new board I was convinced I could connect two hard drives on the IDE3-channel. This is the reason I decided to go ahead and to upgrade to this new mainboard.
I guess I have to go back to my employer and fall back again to my KT266 (MS6380).

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Thanks Noby and Richard for the advice, and sorry I have been slow to read it - I've been away.
I'm not sure I didn't do my last installation in exactly the way you describe anyway. Still, it's probably worth another go.
I was hoping for an easy solution without reinstalling yet again, since the system is working albeit with only the RAID array connected.
Assuming the other drives do now have an MBR written to them, even if I reinstall windows without them connected, will they not still cause problems when reconnected?
Am I looking at having to wipe the drives and start again with them too?
Even if I do this, does formatting a drive wipe any MBR on it?
Is there not some way to directly edit the boot record on each drive when windows installer doesn't figure it out right?
Sorry for the multitude of questions but I have had this problem time and time again and never found a reliable solution - last time it seemed simple chance that I ever got the board working!
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>The two brackets that i have fitted (s and d brackets) do not work. Why?
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I can help a little 1000MHZ AMD chip=200FSB XP CPUs=266FSB this is CPU speed . AMD 1000MHZ CPU needs to run @100FSB where a XP CPU can run @133FSB This is MEMORY speed . Trying to crank that poor old chip up to anything other than 100 will do you NO good. You need to buy a bigger cpu of the XP kind. A lot of the older XPs can be had for a low price. 50c isn't not super hot. My KT4 runs in the 40s. You might want to think about a bigger cpu cooler to bring the temps down a bit. Most of your settings should be left at system default, since you only have a 1000MHZ CPU. When you go up to an XP then you can make a few changes. Regards BIGDADDY51 :D :D

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Yesterday I purchased a KT4 Ultra-BSR. I am doing a clean install.
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Originally posted by Mastiff
[QUOTE[size=15]Also dudes, how did you get the Bluetooth to work on the KT4 Ultra-BSR??!? I'm desperate for help on this!![/SIZE]
I did it the simple way: Used Fujitsu-Siemens' Plugfree setup instead of the incredibly buggy MSI drivers. Then it worked perfectly with my PocketLoox and Ericsson T39. The hardware is the same. But still the range stinks (max 20 feet on my system), so I bought a full WLan setup instead.
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[/QUOTE]
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Thx for the response guys.
I understand that I may only use one drive with the IDE3. My board does have 2 serial ata connectors on it as well.
If I only use the IDE3 with one hard drive will the mirror work correctly if I use the same drive (same model specs etc) on the primary ide and use my 60 gig as a secondary drive on the primary as well (i know the 60 will not work with the mirror) All i want is the performance increase for now until the serial drives drop in price and become more readily available.
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1 12 gig drive on pri ide as master
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This is my results compared to my other UDMA6 HDD on IDE1, HDTach long bench stop with "Read Error" and only quick bench works.
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nah converters can be obtained here in Holland, in fact I have such converter.
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